Red Sox/MLB 2023 Regular Season V - 58 games to go - Kiké Hernandez to the Dodgers for prospects

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Mione134

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Good win. I was very entertained.

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BernieMcAvoy

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Fans overrate prospects, while Dombrowski is probably too aggressive to build a team for long term success i would rather have a gm willing to make big moves if i'm a high payroll team. Now that Bloom has built the system up to middle of the pack i hope he starts to get a lot more aggressive. How many prospects in the Sox system would you really regret giving up to get a Shane Bieber level pitcher?
 

DKH

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You sure we can't just stick Pivetta back in te rotation? Granted it's against the Oakland AAAAs, but he's really on fire.
No. This is brilliant

Pivetta can come in second or third and it’s like being up two hours had your coffee and your back is loose

Pivetta can’t complain because he’s like a vulture now - he could end up with 10 wins

The 2 inning lefty opener if guys got one plus pitch is so good
 

CDJ

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Fans overrate prospects, while Dombrowski is probably too aggressive to build a team for long term success i would rather have a gm willing to make big moves if i'm a high payroll team. Now that Bloom has built the system up to middle of the pack i hope he starts to get a lot more aggressive. How many prospects in the Sox system would you really regret giving up to get a Shane Bieber level pitcher?
Have zero interest in Shane Bieber himself. Wouldn’t give up a top 10 prospect for him. Velo is trending down over the last couple of years, slider/cutter have blended together, and his k-rate is cratering. Now he’s on the IL with the always ominous forearm issues. Would just be buying the decline. I would be in for a high end rotation piece though

Out of prospects in the minors I would consider moving everybody but Mayer and Anthony for the right player.
 

Dennis Bonvie

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Sox had 7 different players score runs in 7-0 win.

4 runs scored on outs (2 sac flies, 2 groundouts).

Chang only guy in the lineup without a hit.

Only player with multiple strikeouts was Yoshida.

Pivetta was pretty good.
 
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GatorMike

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You're projecting a mess. Dombrowski was fired when they were 76–67 the season after winning the WS with a record setting team. It was an absurd firing. But it's evident now that it was done because John Henry no longer wanted to spend like that.
Keep in mind when I write this that I don't dislike Dave Dombrowski or the job that he did in Boston. He did what he was hired to do. And I agree that he's a Hall of fame executive.

That said, any team that finds itself with:

* Significant amounts of long-term payroll committed to older, injury-prone players in decline.​
* Little in terms of young, low-cost, impact talent on the immediate horizon.​

...is probably in for a rough few years.

And that's the position the Red Sox were in when Dombrowski got fired. At that point, it was already clear that he had committed a huge percentage of the team's payroll for the next several years to players that were not going to live up to their salaries. Furthermore, there was no help on the immediate horizon because Pawtucket and Portland were prospect wastelands.
 

SImpelton

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It’s crazy how many more plays get turned when you have a really good defensive SS vs Kikè/Hamilton
All Chang has to do to be a great MLB SS is not be an utter black hole at the plate. He made a run happen on a groundout last night, that's really all I expect from him, find a way to get 'em over or get 'em in. That and the level of D he's capable of will keep him in a big league uniform for years to come.
 

yazmybaby

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The A's are bascially a good / decent AAA team. They have a -260 run differential this year, horrible.
Nice to see Pivetta have a great outing, seems like he has found his gig working in the pen.
Our tough schedule comes in August. How we play at that time, will determine if we grab a wildcard.
 

McGarnagle

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You know why the Sox traded him?
I do not know the story. But I did like Darren Bragg back in the day.

I always associate Moyer with the Red Sox since 1996 was toward the beginning of me following the MLB as a kid, but he was actually only here for barely half of one season over a career that spanned four decades.
 
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