Boston Bruins 2023 Off-Season CAP, Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk XIII

[weaponomega]

Jvr is ok. He can score. But he isn’t fast. And he isn’t violent. Big slow and passive. That’s how I remember him.

REminds me of the Andreychuck signing back in 99.

 

[DKH]

I thought I was the only one who still believed in Ullmark. I still firmly believe he can take a team on a deep playoff run . Maybe it won’t be with the Bruins and if he sucks this year in the playoffs; sure , let him go , but I still believe in him .

Yeh it’s ridiculous
He’s a beast - personally I keep him after his contract up

I sit row 2 on post in back of net and go back to EJ & Cheevers and Ullmark up until he F’d up his shoulder at the 9 minute mark of game 5 turned in the best season I’ve ever seen

Ullmark was first star gsme 1 and 4 and it wasn’t an accident

 

[rfournier103]

They have 3 of the 4 foundational pieces

Defense - McAvoy
Goalie - Ullmark
Wing - Pastrnak

Zacha is a number 2 easy

I see him in a Fred Stanfield/David Krejci category

He plays 200 feet and has blossoming skills

Big Zacha fan here

Good assessment, I think. An infusion of talent at center, and I think the Bruins will be on their way. This might be a year of growing pains, but with some more cap money available and a couple of good signings, the Bruins will be in contention (or close to it) again.

I thought I was the only one who still believed in Ullmark. I still firmly believe he can take a team on a deep playoff run . Maybe it won’t be with the Bruins and if he sucks this year in the playoffs; sure , let him go , but I still believe in him .

I see no reason to believe Ullmark can’t have another good season if he’s healthy. I believe he can do it until he proves he can’t.

I wouldn't hang my skates to either of the two goalies being here long term. Does Swayman get us a top young center when the time comes?

i would hope that if they traded Swayman for a center, he (the center) would be exceptional. There aren’t many centers out there that I’d trade Swayman for.

 

[DKH]

Good assessment, I think. An infusion of talent at center, and I think the Bruins will be on their way. This might be a year of growing pains, but with some more cap money available and a couple of good signings, the Bruins will be in contention (or close to it) again.

I see no reason to believe Ullmark can’t have another good season if he’s healthy. I believe he can do it until he proves he can’t.

i would hope that if they traded Swayman for a center, he (the center) would be exceptional. There aren’t many centers out there that I’d trade Swayman for.

Merkulov, Poitras, Geekie, Farinicci, Beecher etc they know they wiped out Florida with Zacha & Coyle playing 35 minutes

I think unless they fall apart they aren’t in any hurry - or shouldn’t - they are good right now and let’s see where these young players are

 

[Hookslide]

They'll miss Hall a ton. He was a one man zone entry machine. He's speed backed up the defenders. He was a treat to watch and he improved immensely defensively with his back checking.

His 16 goals maybe replaced by JVR, but his overall production, I don't see it.

I hate too say it but they are going to regret this trade , his contract was fair ,his production in the playoffs was very strong , remember he missed over 20 games still 16 goals on the third line with limited PP time and I feel he was solid on defensive play ...........I want to say also Monty is getting dumped on because of the playoff screwups and I am on board with the shit he is taking , but he is going to be shit on for every misstep this year and I am not sure that sure that will be totally fair..........Sweeney is responsible for painting himself in the corner with no cap space, no picks , and assets to move being limited ............but I feel Monty is going to be the fall guy........

 

[The don godfather]

I hate too say it but they are going to regret this trade , his contract was fair ,his production in the playoffs was very strong , remember he missed over 20 games still 16 goals on the third line with limited PP time and I feel he was solid on defensive play ...........I want to say also Monty is getting dumped on because of the playoff screwups and I am on board with the shit he is taking , but he is going to be shit on for every misstep this year and I am not sure that sure that will be totally fair..........Sweeney is responsible for painting himself in the corner with no cap space, no picks , and assets to move being limited ............but I feel Monty is going to be the fall guy........

Hall at 6 million and that production I dont think it's a big deal.

Good assessment, I think. An infusion of talent at center, and I think the Bruins will be on their way. This might be a year of growing pains, but with some more cap money available and a couple of good signings, the Bruins will be in contention (or close to it) again.

I see no reason to believe Ullmark can’t have another good season if he’s healthy. I believe he can do it until he proves he can’t.

i would hope that if they traded Swayman for a center, he (the center) would be exceptional. There aren’t many centers out there that I’d trade Swayman for.

Pld yes and thank you but that ship is gone.

 

[Kegs]

I hate too say it but they are going to regret this trade , his contract was fair ,his production in the playoffs was very strong , remember he missed over 20 games still 16 goals on the third line with limited PP time and I feel he was solid on defensive play ...........I want to say also Monty is getting dumped on because of the playoff screwups and I am on board with the shit he is taking , but he is going to be shit on for every misstep this year and I am not sure that sure that will be totally fair..........Sweeney is responsible for painting himself in the corner with no cap space, no picks , and assets to move being limited ............but I feel Monty is going to be the fall guy........

Sweeney is also the reason they got Taylor hall for nothing.

 

[The don godfather]

Sweeney is also the reason they got Taylor hall for nothing.

Hall boxing Adams was also a massive factor.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

Was it asinine to say they gave Senyshyn way more time to develop than he actually deserved? Not even a little bit.

So why is it asinine to say they are 100% committed to keeping the only good player they got from those three picks? f***, we have consistently ripped this front office for being both way too conscious of public perception and way too defensive. It's asinine to say they're sensitive to what it would mean if they also lost DeBrusk?

Yet somehow what I said is an indictment of this entire fanbase and forum? That's bullshit.

They traded Senyshyn days before his 25th birthday. That season he had posted 31 points & 19 goals in 51 games in Providence. Like all prospects in his age range he had the pandemic stunt his development curve for almost a full season/offseason cycle. It is 100% reasonable and typical to keep a productive prospect through their age 24 season, especially when considering the covid effect. You don't just dump every prospect who doesn't live up to their draft position by age 23. They obviously thought Senyshyn had a chance to still carve out a bottom 6 role & gave him that last season to prove it.

Hell, they only gave the guy 14 NHL games over 3 seasons. That's your egregious example of the team keeping a guy way too long because of his draft position? By comparison they gave Jordan Caron 134 NHL games over 5 seasons. Ironically Senyshyn had .21 points per game in the NHL as a Bruin vs Caron's .20. Sounds like Sweeney's predecessor is the guy who didn't know when to cut bait, but that doesn't really fit your narrative.

Anyway, even without being wrong about how they handled Senyshyn (you are), your premise is nonsense. Jake Debrusk is a 3 time 25+ goal scorer in the NHL. His teammates love him. He's a heart & soul guy who has been with Boston his whole career and is in a position to help carry on the culture that Bergeron & Chara established. And now he's finally in a place where he wants to stay in Boston. Why wouldn't they want to keep him? There is zero evidence that if they keep him they're even remotely motivated by saving face from 2015. They are going to keep him if it's the right money & fit, bottom line. If anything their willingness to move on from Senyshyn just goes to show that they aren't worried about the optics.

The 2015 thing is purely a fan & media obsession. I promise you Sweeney thinks about it basically never at this point in time, 8 years later. He massively whiffed in the first round of that draft and still came away from the table with Brandon Carlo & Jake Debrusk. He drafted Charlie f***ing McAvoy a year later. He's built arguably the best D corps & goalie tandem in the NHL. The notion that he's fretting over the 2015 draft while making personnel decisions 8 years later is honestly laughable. This is the obsession of fans like you and frankly this is just you projecting that obsession onto him.

 

[NDiesel]

Was it asinine to say they gave Senyshyn way more time to develop than he actually deserved? Not even a little bit.

So why is it asinine to say they are 100% committed to keeping the only good player they got from those three picks? f***, we have consistently ripped this front office for being both way too conscious of public perception and way too defensive. It's asinine to say they're sensitive to what it would mean if they also lost DeBrusk?

Yet somehow what I said is an indictment of this entire fanbase and forum? That's bullshit.

Seny got like 14 career NHL games...if your narrative were even remotely true why isn't he still here? Why isn't Zboril getting any ice time?

Just completely bizarre to imply being drafted in 2015 has anything to do with why they would sign Debrusk. Is that why they re-signed Zacha too?

 

[Over the volcano]

They'll miss Hall a ton. He was a one man zone entry machine. He's speed backed up the defenders. He was a treat to watch and he improved immensely defensively with his back checking.

His 16 goals maybe replaced by JVR, but his overall production, I don't see it.

Is it possible to miss what someone could have been but never was for them? Because that's how I feel about Hall. He was always so close to becoming the thing they dreamt they were getting.

 

[Kegs]

Crying about 2015 draft needs to die already.

 

[EverettMike]

Seny got like 14 career NHL games...if your narrative were even remotely true why isn't he still here? Why isn't Zboril getting any ice time?

Just completely bizarre to imply being drafted in 2015 has anything to do with why they would sign Debrusk. Is that why they re-signed Zacha too?

BECAUSE HE f***ING SUCKED!

Holy shit.

 

[Hookslide]

Sweeney is also the reason they got Taylor hall for nothing.

No Taylor Hall is the reason they got Taylor Hall for nothing , you might remember that Hall was holding all the cards...........

 

[EverettMike]

They traded Senyshyn days before his 25th birthday. That season he had posted 31 points & 19 goals in 51 games in Providence. Like all prospects in his age range he had the pandemic stunt his development curve for almost a full season/offseason cycle. It is 100% reasonable and typical to keep a productive prospect through their age 24 season, especially when considering the covid effect. You don't just dump every prospect who doesn't live up to their draft position by age 23. They obviously thought Senyshyn had a chance to still carve out a bottom 6 role & gave him that last season to prove it.

Hell, they only gave the guy 14 NHL games over 3 seasons. That's your egregious example of the team keeping a guy way too long because of his draft position? By comparison they gave Jordan Caron 134 NHL games over 5 seasons. Ironically Senyshyn had .21 points per game in the NHL as a Bruin vs Caron's .20. Sounds like Sweeney's predecessor is the guy who didn't know when to cut bait, but that doesn't really fit your narrative.

Anyway, even without being wrong about how they handled Senyshyn (you are), your premise is nonsense. Jake Debrusk is a 3 time 25+ goal scorer in the NHL. His teammates love him. He's a heart & soul guy who has been with Boston his whole career and is in a position to help carry on the culture that Bergeron & Chara established. And now he's finally in a place where he wants to stay in Boston. Why wouldn't they want to keep him? There is zero evidence that if they keep him they're even remotely motivated by saving face from 2015. They are going to keep him if it's the right money & fit, bottom line. If anything their willingness to move on from Senyshyn just goes to show that they aren't worried about the optics.

The 2015 thing is purely a fan & media obsession. I promise you Sweeney thinks about it basically never at this point in time, 8 years later. He massively whiffed in the first round of that draft and still came away from the table with Brandon Carlo & Jake Debrusk. He drafted Charlie f***ing McAvoy a year later. He's built arguably the best D corps & goalie tandem in the NHL. The notion that he's fretting over the 2015 draft while making personnel decisions 8 years later is honestly laughable. This is the obsession of fans like you and frankly this is just you projecting that obsession onto him.

Not only did you not understand my original point, you still don't understand it after I explained it.

I don't care enough to continue talking about this. I have no energy for when people misrepresent what I'm saying or put words in my mouth.

 

[NDiesel]

BECAUSE HE f***ING SUCKED!

Holy shit.

Yeah...and Debrusk is good. One is gone. One is likely to be signed. Being drafted in 2015 had nothing to do with either thing.

 

[LSCII]

They traded Senyshyn days before his 25th birthday. That season he had posted 31 points & 19 goals in 51 games in Providence. Like all prospects in his age range he had the pandemic stunt his development curve for almost a full season/offseason cycle. It is 100% reasonable and typical to keep a productive prospect through their age 24 season, especially when considering the covid effect. You don't just dump every prospect who doesn't live up to their draft position by age 23. They obviously thought Senyshyn had a chance to still carve out a bottom 6 role & gave him that last season to prove it.

Hell, they only gave the guy 14 NHL games over 3 seasons. That's your egregious example of the team keeping a guy way too long because of his draft position? By comparison they gave Jordan Caron 134 NHL games over 5 seasons. Ironically Senyshyn had .21 points per game in the NHL as a Bruin vs Caron's .20. Sounds like Sweeney's predecessor is the guy who didn't know when to cut bait, but that doesn't really fit your narrative.

Anyway, even without being wrong about how they handled Senyshyn (you are), your premise is nonsense. Jake Debrusk is a 3 time 25+ goal scorer in the NHL. His teammates love him. He's a heart & soul guy who has been with Boston his whole career and is in a position to help carry on the culture that Bergeron & Chara established. And now he's finally in a place where he wants to stay in Boston. Why wouldn't they want to keep him? There is zero evidence that if they keep him they're even remotely motivated by saving face from 2015. They are going to keep him if it's the right money & fit, bottom line. If anything their willingness to move on from Senyshyn just goes to show that they aren't worried about the optics.

The 2015 thing is purely a fan & media obsession. I promise you Sweeney thinks about it basically never at this point in time, 8 years later. He massively whiffed in the first round of that draft and still came away from the table with Brandon Carlo & Jake Debrusk. He drafted Charlie f***ing McAvoy a year later. He's built arguably the best D corps & goalie tandem in the NHL. The notion that he's fretting over the 2015 draft while making personnel decisions 8 years later is honestly laughable. This is the obsession of fans like you and frankly this is just you projecting that obsession onto him.

Carrying on the culture chara and Bergeron created? You mean choking hard in the playoffs and coming up short more often than not? Thank god we got someone to preserve that losing culture of quitting on multiple coaches….

 

[Over the volcano]

No Taylor Hall is the reason they got Taylor Hall for nothing , you might remember that Hall was holding all the cards...........

And Sweeney had nothing to do with creating the organization that Hall wanted to trade those cards in for ...

 

[Gee Wally]

2023 Off-Season CAP, Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk​

This aint the Sweeney thread . This aint the 2015 draft rehash thread all over again.

Move on or find the right thread.

 

[Blowfish]

People will talk about the 2015 draft until Sweeney is gone. It’s a big part of his resume.

Maybe it is part of his resume (he has much more good than bad on his resume)...the point is, the 2015 draft simply isn't part of this thread.

 

[The don godfather]

They traded Senyshyn days before his 25th birthday. That season he had posted 31 points & 19 goals in 51 games in Providence. Like all prospects in his age range he had the pandemic stunt his development curve for almost a full season/offseason cycle. It is 100% reasonable and typical to keep a productive prospect through their age 24 season, especially when considering the covid effect. You don't just dump every prospect who doesn't live up to their draft position by age 23. They obviously thought Senyshyn had a chance to still carve out a bottom 6 role & gave him that last season to prove it.

Hell, they only gave the guy 14 NHL games over 3 seasons. That's your egregious example of the team keeping a guy way too long because of his draft position? By comparison they gave Jordan Caron 134 NHL games over 5 seasons. Ironically Senyshyn had .21 points per game in the NHL as a Bruin vs Caron's .20. Sounds like Sweeney's predecessor is the guy who didn't know when to cut bait, but that doesn't really fit your narrative.

Anyway, even without being wrong about how they handled Senyshyn (you are), your premise is nonsense. Jake Debrusk is a 3 time 25+ goal scorer in the NHL. His teammates love him. He's a heart & soul guy who has been with Boston his whole career and is in a position to help carry on the culture that Bergeron & Chara established. And now he's finally in a place where he wants to stay in Boston. Why wouldn't they want to keep him? There is zero evidence that if they keep him they're even remotely motivated by saving face from 2015. They are going to keep him if it's the right money & fit, bottom line. If anything their willingness to move on from Senyshyn just goes to show that they aren't worried about the optics.

The 2015 thing is purely a fan & media obsession. I promise you Sweeney thinks about it basically never at this point in time, 8 years later. He massively whiffed in the first round of that draft and still came away from the table with Brandon Carlo & Jake Debrusk. He drafted Charlie f***ing McAvoy a year later. He's built arguably the best D corps & goalie tandem in the NHL. The notion that he's fretting over the 2015 draft while making personnel decisions 8 years later is honestly laughable. This is the obsession of fans like you and frankly this is just you projecting that obsession onto him.

Donny maestro one of the best 2019 wasn't his fault and last year too . The guy is one of the best general managers out there.

 

[Gordoff]

I hate too say it but they are going to regret this trade , his contract was fair ,his production in the playoffs was very strong , remember he missed over 20 games still 16 goals on the third line with limited PP time and I feel he was solid on defensive play ...........I want to say also Monty is getting dumped on because of the playoff screwups and I am on board with the shit he is taking , but he is going to be shit on for every misstep this year and I am not sure that sure that will be totally fair..........Sweeney is responsible for painting himself in the corner with no cap space, no picks , and assets to move being limited ............but I feel Monty is going to be the fall guy........

Maybe if he didn't throw others under the bus and took responsibility for his complete meltdown of a coaching job (post season) he'd be getting less shit. But, IMO let the shitstorm commence if he stinks the place out in next season/post season.

 

[Carl Hungus]

Carrying on the culture chara and Bergeron created? You mean choking hard in the playoffs and coming up short more often than not? Thank god we got someone to preserve that losing culture of quitting on multiple coaches….

Yeah, poor you to have to watch Chara and Bergeron as captains. Also, FYI, 31/32 teams come up short every year. Entitled take

 

[The don godfather]

Yeah, poor you to have to watch Chara and Bergeron as captains. Also, FYI, 31/32 teams come up short every year. Entitled take

Shes an impossible trophy to get.

 

[LSCII]

Yeah, poor you to have to watch Chara and Bergeron as captains. Also, FYI, 31/32 teams come up short every year. Entitled take

It’s embarrassing to see fans excuse away obvious failures. To pretend they just weren’t good enough and ignoring the many many times they were by far the better team but squandered opportunities is some next level excuse mongering. I feel sad for you that you need to do these mental gymnastics to avoid the truth.