Boston Bruins 2023 Off-Season CAP, Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk XIII

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ON3M4N

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Why? the most common rumors have been beaten to death this off-season. We're about a month away from camp and a few weeks from rookie camps. The only deal teams are making scraping the barrel of FA for PTO's and then waiting to see what guys they need to trade because they won't make the team and likely wouldn't clear waivers.
 
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But only one Cup they suck and are losers - yawn

Give me LA
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Ask Phil Esposito or anyone else on those 68-73 teams how they feel. Great regular seasons, yipeeee. Leaving at Least 1 Cup on the table, probably two and if you stretch it out to 74 the Flyers Cup was also very winnable.

I take Cups, not President Trophies, President Trophies are the NHL equivalent of a participation award.
 

Dennis Bonvie

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Ask Phil Esposito or anyone else on those 68-73 teams how they feel. Great regular seasons, yipeeee. Leaving at Least 1 Cup on the table, probably two and if you stretch it out to 74 the Flyers Cup was also very winnable.

I take Cups, not President Trophies, President Trophies are the NHL equivalent of a participation award.

If Bobby Orr was playing for the Bruins now I'd expect Cups too.

…..and I thought the Game 7 Post Game Thread went on forever.

And the party never ends.
 

Spjutmuren

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Here's a hypothetical - would you trade Charlie McAvoy for Elias Pettersson in a straight hockey trade, presuming Pettersson would be eager to sign long term?

The Bruins defense loses big time while the 1C position is set for a decade. Pettersson has been quoted as not being keen on staying with Vancouver if they aren't winning, which hasn't been their thing for a while now. They could really use a top RD like Charlie, and it's his final season without trade protection.

What say you, HFBruins?
Fun game.

In the real world, its a hard no from me. We just love the players growing into the team too much.

In a world deprived from emotions, probably yes. I think EP is a great player and a true gem. That kind of center who’ll attract good wings to his team. CM is also a true gem, and as a D he can be iced half the games. But what’s swaying me (in the psychopath scenario) is that we’re much better set at D than center. With CM for EP we may not be a true contender this season, but may be able to storm the castle the next one
 

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3 of those 4 have some type of NMC/NTC and Grizz really isn't worth much or he would be gone already.
I asked several times for all these posters that feel Gryz is a significant part of the Bruins always using advanced stats of some level to justify there argument . What is Gryz's trade value???. I personally would be very pleased if the Bruins could get a 2nd round pick as a return .I think he would have been moved by now if they could
 
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wintersej

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Here's a hypothetical - would you trade Charlie McAvoy for Elias Pettersson in a straight hockey trade, presuming Pettersson would be eager to sign long term?

The Bruins defense loses big time while the 1C position is set for a decade. Pettersson has been quoted as not being keen on staying with Vancouver if they aren't winning, which hasn't been their thing for a while now. They could really use a top RD like Charlie, and it's his final season without trade protection.

What say you, HFBruins?

I think EP and Pasta would be impossible to defend on the PP.

Conversely, I named my son Charlie.
 

bbfan419

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3 of those 4 have some type of NMC/NTC and Grizz really isn't worth much or he would be gone already.
I think Grizz does have some value, the others well many times when a player is asked to waive his ntc/nmc they often do, unless it is a place they would detest going to, Calgary and especially Vancouver are nice cities.

How can they land both realistically? I’m all for it but I don’t see the numbers there.
Like I said though. it would have to more hockey deals, some futures could be involved yes, but you would have to move out salary as well.
 
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bbfan419

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Here's a hypothetical - would you trade Charlie McAvoy for Elias Pettersson in a straight hockey trade, presuming Pettersson would be eager to sign long term?

The Bruins defense loses big time while the 1C position is set for a decade. Pettersson has been quoted as not being keen on staying with Vancouver if they aren't winning, which hasn't been their thing for a while now. They could really use a top RD like Charlie, and it's his final season without trade protection.

What say you, HFBruins?
I would if Vancouver throws in a 1st, we need picks and top young Center, but McAvoy is a top pairing D, him and Hughes would be huge for the next decade for the Canucks. We would have to bring in someone like Mayfield who could play 2nd pair and move up Carlo, while grooming Lohrei. McAvoy is talented and top pair guy, but sometimes leaves you wanting more.
 

UncleRico

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I would be curious if LA Kings fans would trade one of their Cups for a couple Presidents trophies.

I’d love to see the reaction on kopitar and Doughty if someone asked if they’d rather have two cups or the bruins regular season success.

I cannot believe this is even a debate.

Or I wonder if we asked pastrnak would he trade the most regular season wins during his tenure for a cup.
 

DKH

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I’d love to see the reaction on kopitar and Doughty if someone asked if they’d rather have two cups or the bruins regular season success.

I cannot believe this is even a debate.

Or I wonder if we asked pastrnak would he trade the most regular season wins during his tenure for a cup.
If I must say I get around and asked probably 50 people this actually maybe more since a couple of text groups are 14 and 17 - many of my buds who played college and professionally as well as a number of my Bruins buddies, golf, gym, judo, yoga, neighbors who are hockey fans - and the 4 text groups I’m on including the best and brightest one time HF members who retired

If it’s 50 - it’s 50 to nothing Bruins

Oh and don’t cherry pick this year for a Cup it’s a 15 year period

Oh I asked my kid to who picked Bruins
 

Tbaybruin

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Ask Phil Esposito or anyone else on those 68-73 teams how they feel. Great regular seasons, yipeeee. Leaving at Least 1 Cup on the table, probably two and if you stretch it out to 74 the Flyers Cup was also very winnable.

I take Cups, not President Trophies, President Trophies are the NHL equivalent of a participation award.
For me we should have had it all, meaning 2 cups not one plus all the other success
 
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UncleRico

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If I must say I get around and asked probably 50 people this - many of my buds who played college and professionally as well as a number of my Bruins buddies, golf, gym, judo, yoga, neighbors who are hockey fans - and the 4 text groups I’m on including the best and brightest one time HF members who retired

If it’s 50 - it’s 50 to nothing Bruins

Is it Jack edwards with 50 different phone numbers?
 

Blowfish

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But only one Cup they suck and are losers - yawn

Give me LA
2 Cups (snicker)
Hard to argue the facts...So many teams/players would be envious. Success breads success.
 

MarchysNoseKnows

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Here's a hypothetical - would you trade Charlie McAvoy for Elias Pettersson in a straight hockey trade, presuming Pettersson would be eager to sign long term?

The Bruins defense loses big time while the 1C position is set for a decade. Pettersson has been quoted as not being keen on staying with Vancouver if they aren't winning, which hasn't been their thing for a while now. They could really use a top RD like Charlie, and it's his final season without trade protection.

What say you, HFBruins?
I get the question. And in the 80s this kind of shit happened all the time. But I’d say no. Can’t do a thing like that anymore. This is well above Johansen for Jones and I can’t think of any comparable since then.
 
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The Andrew Peeke Fan

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Here's a hypothetical - would you trade Charlie McAvoy for Elias Pettersson in a straight hockey trade, presuming Pettersson would be eager to sign long term?

The Bruins defense loses big time while the 1C position is set for a decade. Pettersson has been quoted as not being keen on staying with Vancouver if they aren't winning, which hasn't been their thing for a while now. They could really use a top RD like Charlie, and it's his final season without trade protection.

What say you, HFBruins?
"Yes"
 

dugg133

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Here's a hypothetical - would you trade Charlie McAvoy for Elias Pettersson in a straight hockey trade, presuming Pettersson would be eager to sign long term?

The Bruins defense loses big time while the 1C position is set for a decade. Pettersson has been quoted as not being keen on staying with Vancouver if they aren't winning, which hasn't been their thing for a while now. They could really use a top RD like Charlie, and it's his final season without trade protection.

What say you, HFBruins?
I would hate it but probably yes. Love McAvoy to bits, but I think EP/Lindholm as your 1C/1D combo gets you hell of a lot closer to a cup then Zacha/McAvoy.

Also as a semi-related side note, I've been starting to slowly realize just how hard it's gonna be for us to acquire a true 1C. Odds are anyone you'd classify as a top line center is gonna be locked up long term by next offseason when we get all that cap space, and we don't exactly have much in terms of tradable assets rn either outside of like Lysell, Lohrei, and Poitras.
 

WhalerTurnedBruin55

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I totally enjoyed watching the Bruins winning all those games last season .
Team with the most wins East and West play for the cup . That's what I'd like to see.
The cup now is more luck than skill
Concidently, 2011 wouldn't have happened if the best team in the East played the best in the West. (they were top of their division but 4th in Eastern conference standings)

Playoffs are fine.

Good teams win enough to get to the playoffs. Great teams figure out how to win in the playoffs.

Was the 2011 team a great or lucky team?
 
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