Boston Bruins 2023 Off-Season CAP, Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk XIII

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3 of the 4 easily just missing that top tier Center. Hopefully Im wrong on Zacha. I like him as a player but I think he's more suited as a 2nd line wing, 3rd line Center
Yeh I see him as a very good second line center or wing - responsible and good hockey sense

Top 6 skills but since he sees ice so well and big, strong and gets back

Probably the one guy I keyed on the most from my seats ice level until Orlov and Bertuzzi showed up
 

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3 of the 4 easily just missing that top tier Center. Hopefully Im wrong on Zacha. I like him as a player but I think he's more suited as a 2nd line wing, 3rd line Center
If I'm not mistaken, didn't Zacha play pretty well as the 1C in Games 3 and 4 vs. Florida when Bergeron and Krejci were out? He even had two assists in Game 4. The Bruins won both games 4-2 and 6-2, respectively. I thought he played well under some pretty intense pressure.

Whatever the reasons were for the Bruins losing to the Panthers, it wasn't because Pavel Zacha couldn't play center.
 

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Yeh I see him as a very good second line center or wing - responsible and good hockey sense

Top 6 skills but since he sees ice so well and big, strong and gets back

Probably the one guy I keyed on the most from my seats ice level until Orlov and Bertuzzi showed up
I could not believe how much Orlov and Bertuzzi sucked in their D zone, Orlov was terrible
 

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I think Zacha will be a perfectly good and capable 2A/2B and will fill in as a 1C this year with pasta as his winger, but there is no other 2nd line capable center on the team which is the issue (same thing with 2 years ago, an injury to Bergy left you with Erik Haula). He was the excellent depth that allowed us to be the winningest regular season team of all time, not the focus of it however.

We will see, Im comfortable with him giving us 70 points in that role, but we dont have anyone who can step in if he goes down, or even fill in to what should be his ideal spot on the 2nd line.

Don't know that any other shoe is going to drop at this point, oh well at least theyll get 780$ from me in jersey sales this year
 
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Some of the media was setting the recent Brandon Hagel 8 year 52 million dollar deal ($6.5 million against the salary cap annually ) as a comparable for the next Debrusk contract.

Part of remaining competitive will be to extend their upcoming free agents starting with DeBrusk. The Edmonton, Alberta native has made it clear he wants to stay, but what will his extension look like? A lot of comparisons to Brandon Hagel have been thrown around since he signed his new deal last week. However, Hagel is almost two years younger and put up 30 goals and 34 assists this past season in 81 games. On the flip side, DeBrusk has a longer track record of success and is set to hit unrestricted free agency.

While the players aren’t a mirror image of one another, Hagel’s contract is a pretty good comparison for the Bruins and DeBrusk to utilize as a framework for an extension that both sides appear eager to sign.

Hagel makes a lot more sense than my off hand guess. Hopefully we are closer to that number.
 
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JVR let's go! We won't miss Hall just watch.
Not sure if you're serious or not, but if you are, I hope you're right.

By the way, have you read "The Godfather" yet? I'm about to start re-reading it as soon as I finish "Anna Karenina."
JVR is not going to replace Hall. JVR didn’t even make Flyers fans happy. He also wasn’t popular in Toronto if memory serves me right.
I wish we had him 13 years ago. Who knows? Maybe he's got something left in the tank.
 
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Not sure if you're serious or not, but if you are, I hope you're right.

By the way, have you read "The Godfather" yet? I'm about to start re-reading it as soon as I finish "Anna Karenina."

I wish we had him 13 years ago. Who knows? Maybe he's got something left in the tank.
Jvr is ok. He can score. But he isn’t fast. And he isn’t violent. Big slow and passive. That’s how I remember him.
 

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If I'm not mistaken, didn't Zacha play pretty well as the 1C in Games 3 and 4 vs. Florida when Bergeron and Krejci were out? He even had two assists in Game 4. The Bruins won both games 4-2 and 6-2, respectively. I thought he played well under some pretty intense pressure.

Whatever the reasons were for the Bruins losing to the Panthers, it wasn't because Pavel Zacha couldn't play center.
I went back and looked into this a while ago, but I'm pretty sure Zacha filled in at center for like 10 regular season games and 4 playoff games last season and he was a PPG in them. Not saying he's gonna be a PPG player this season, but I think he's gonna surprise some people with how well he does. Think he's gonna solidify himself as a true top 6 center option for us going forward.
 

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Jvr let's go! We wont miss hall just watch.
They'll miss Hall a ton. He was a one man zone entry machine. He's speed backed up the defenders. He was a treat to watch and he improved immensely defensively with his back checking.

His 16 goals maybe replaced by JVR, but his overall production, I don't see it.
 

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They'll miss Hall a ton. He was a one man zone entry machine. He's speed backed up the defenders. He was a treat to watch and he improved immensely defensively with his back checking.

His 16 goals maybe replaced by JVR, but his overall production, I don't see it.
There is no chance jvr replaces halls impact.
 

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They're 100% going to extend DeBrusk and for a very obvious reason that really doesn't have anything to do with him and everything to do with the front office.
yeah i'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that he has turned into a really good player

this is where we're at with this fanbase & this forum especially... just non-stop f***ing complaining, even about extending good players
 

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yeah i'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that he has turned into a really good player

this is where we're at with this fanbase & this forum especially... just non-stop f***ing complaining, even about extending good players

C'mon man. Knock it off. I said nothing about DeBrusk's value as a player or what I think a fair/good/overpaid contract would be about.

But what I did say clearly indicates that because he's a good player they're going to extend him for a reason that goes beyond that. It's the same reason they kept shitty Senyshyn around way past when it was clear he couldn't play. It was for the same reason they're going to 100% extend DeBrusk rather than risk having to trade or lose him for nothing.

Do I really need to spell everything out explicitly to avoid this kind of response from someone as smart as you?
 
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C'mon man. Knock it off. I said nothing about DeBrusk's value as a player or what I think a fair/good/overpaid contract would be about.

But what I did say clearly indicates that because he's a good player they're going to extend him for a reason that goes beyond that. It's the same reason they kept shitty Senyshyn around way past when it was clear he couldn't play. It was for the same reason they're going to 100% extend DeBrusk rather than risk having to trade or lose him for nothing.

Do I really need to spell everything out explicitly to avoid this kind of response from someone as smart as you?
The thought that the Bruins are in part going to extend Debrusk because of the 2015 draft is next level.
 

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C'mon man. Knock it off. I said nothing about DeBrusk's value as a player or what I think a fair/good/overpaid contract would be about.

But what I did say clearly indicates that because he's a good player they're going to extend him for a reason that goes beyond that. It's the same reason they kept shitty Senyshyn around way past when it was clear he couldn't play. It was for the same reason they're going to 100% extend DeBrusk rather than risk having to trade or lose him for nothing.

Do I really need to spell everything out explicitly to avoid this kind of response from someone as smart as you?
I understood your point, i just think it's asinine
 
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I understood your point, i just think it's asinine

Was it asinine to say they gave Senyshyn way more time to develop than he actually deserved? Not even a little bit.

So why is it asinine to say they are 100% committed to keeping the only good player they got from those three picks? f***, we have consistently ripped this front office for being both way too conscious of public perception and way too defensive. It's asinine to say they're sensitive to what it would mean if they also lost DeBrusk?

Yet somehow what I said is an indictment of this entire fanbase and forum? That's bullshit.
 

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They have 3 of the 4 foundational pieces

Defense - McAvoy
Goalie - Ullmark
Wing - Pastrnak

Zacha is a number 2 easy

I see him in a Fred Stanfield/David Krejci category

He plays 200 feet and has blossoming skills

Big Zacha fan here
I thought I was the only one who still believed in Ullmark. I still firmly believe he can take a team on a deep playoff run . Maybe it won’t be with the Bruins and if he sucks this year in the playoffs; sure , let him go , but I still believe in him .
 

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I thought I was the only one who still believed in Ullmark. I still firmly believe he can take a team on a deep playoff run . Maybe it won’t be with the Bruins and if he sucks this year in the playoffs; sure , let him go , but I still believe in him .
I wouldn't hang my skates to either of the two goalies being here long term. Does Swayman get us a top young center when the time comes?
 
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