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Boston Bruins 2023 Off-Season CAP, Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk IX

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wintersej said:
The RFAs are a totally different story as those guys are making a quarter of what Hall is. The problem is the cap space.

Reilly Smith was over a PPG last season and went for a third. Only Pasta scored more than him on the Bruins. edit: he was not over a PPG, it was early and I was looking at the wrong columns.

Toffoli went for a guy that was about to be non-tendered. This is a similar trade to Haula for Zacha. Toffoli sure is a f*** load better than Haula but got back less. Toffoli was also way better than Hall with 35 goals and 70 points.

Johansen went for a waiver wire guys in Gally and Nashville retained 50%.

Hayes got a 6th with 50% retained.

Hall got a couple of low level D prospects with no retention despite being the most expensive guy on this list and having the least production and having an injury concern.
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How about everyone that clamors about Playoff production being most important?

Rough regular season. but Hall 8 points in 7 games, I mean, there's guys getting crucified for being healthy scratches.

Not saying we'd get the world for the guy, but unless one of these guys actually makes the team, I'm saying a late pick probably has more value.

My point was more that someone asked for all the trades, I listed them out, I didn't say any of them were 1:1 comps to Hall, just what the trade was.

Carry on.
 
I need to get off the couch and go cut the lawn but Lou texted me it’s to hot (90 degree rule) so I was waiting for 89 & reading Elliot Freidman and came across this

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But Hanifin could be a strong long-term addition for the Bruins. And it's clear why he'd want to go to Boston, his hometown and a city where he has a lot of history. Plus, it doesn't hurt the Bruins have one of the best rosters in the NHL.

Hanifin, who had seven goals and 31 assists in 81 games last season, could help take Boston's solid defensive unit to another level. These are reasons why it would make the most sense for Hanifin to end up with the Bruins, as long as them and the Flames can work out a trade that works for both sides.
 
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Dr Quincy said:
Having a #1 C doesn't mean you win the Cup or even get in the playoffs. See Eichel in BUF.

However, not having a #1 does mean you don't win a Cup. Can't remember the last Cup winner that didn't have a true #1.
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Guess we'd have to define what a "True #1C" is to answer that question.
 
ON3M4N said:
Guess we'd have to define what a "True #1C" is to answer that question.
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Yeah I agree here. The last one i could find that fit the bill was maybe the 2007 Ducks.

Getzlaf was young, in his second season and had 58 points that season. Their top scoring C was Andy McDonald.

Getz ended up being a true #1 and I'm not sure Andy McDonald was ever a true #1.

Dr Quincy said:
Last team that didn't have a C with at least 70 pts (or on pace for if not a shortened lockout/covid type season):

2011 Boston Bruins
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That team had some great depth down the middle...but I think Julien had everything to do with those low point totals, not a lack of a true #1. They did however play Krejci/Bergy as more of a 1A/1B though.
 
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False Start said:
Yes?

No one we've ever played with him has been effective. People cite his PK prowess as the only reason we have to keep him in the lineup.

He's a bottom pair D who, without a very good defenseman next to him plays at a low level. He fits on this team as much as people think Grzelyck does.
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I can't recall his partner prior to injury...but they were effective. The stats and remarkable season prove it.

Some folk have short memories and simply looking for stuff to yip yap about.
 
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Blowfish said:
I can't recall his partner prior to injury...but they were effective. The stats and remarkable season prove it.

Some folk have short memories and simply looking for stuff to yip yap about.
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?

McAvoy was worse when tied with Forbort.
Clifton thrived with Lindholm and was merely average at best with Forbort.
Grzelyck played most of his time with Carlo / McAvoy and didn't fit with Forbort.
Orlov comes and they try him and Forbort and it never worked.
Carlo and Forbort? They tried that too and it didn't work.

I can't think of ONE player that played well with Forbort.
 
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NDiesel said:
Yeah I agree here. The last one i could find that fit the bill was maybe the 2007 Ducks.

Getzlaf was young, in his second season and had 58 points that season. Their top scoring C was Andy McDonald.

Getz ended up being a true #1 and I'm not sure Andy McDonald was ever a true #1.


That team had some great depth down the middle...but I think Julien had everything to do with those low point totals, not a lack of a true #1. They did however play Krejci/Bergy as more of a 1A/1B though.
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Savard put up 88 and Krejci 73 points two seasons prior.

Savard gets hurt and Krejci and Bergeron become 1A and 2.

Different team in 2011 than the team that dominated the regular season in 2009, but many of the same building blocks.
 
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False Start said:
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McAvoy was worse when tied with Forbort.
Clifton thrived with Lindholm and was merely average at best with Forbort.
Grzelyck played most of his time with Carlo / McAvoy and didn't fit with Forbort.
Orlov comes and they try him and Forbort and it never worked.
Carlo and Forbort? They tried that too and it didn't work.

I can't think of ONE player that played well with Forbort.
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Are you talking playoffs or regular season...You can't argue regular season. It was near perfect. Like I said in my post. Almost all key players were playing with bad injuries. Shit luck but it happens.
 
Blowfish said:
Are you talking playoffs or regular season...You can't argue regular season. It was near perfect. Like I said in my post. Almost all key players were playing with bad injuries. Shit luck but it happens.
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Both. There wasn't a single player in two years that "fit" well with Forbort.

Clifton was the best option that kept him on the third pair and allowed both of them to play their preferential sides.

The PK in the regular season was actually just as good without him and at worst the same as when he wasn't injured.
 
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DKH said:
I need to get off the couch and go cut the lawn but Lou texted me it’s to hot (90 degree rule) so I was waiting for 89 & reading Elliot Freidman and came across this

32 thoughts

But Hanifin could be a strong long-term addition for the Bruins. And it's clear why he'd want to go to Boston, his hometown and a city where he has a lot of history. Plus, it doesn't hurt the Bruins have one of the best rosters in the NHL.

Hanifin, who had seven goals and 31 assists in 81 games last season, could help take Boston's solid defensive unit to another level. These are reasons why it would make the most sense for Hanifin to end up with the Bruins, as long as them and the Flames can work out a trade that works for both sides.
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I read that and I think two things.

1. It would be great to get him here via trade this year -- but even with him, I don't know if they're cup contenders.

2. It would be better to get him here next year via FA, without giving up assets for him, and have him when they are cup contenders.
 
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NDiesel said:
Yeah I agree here. The last one i could find that fit the bill was maybe the 2007 Ducks.

Getzlaf was young, in his second season and had 58 points that season. Their top scoring C was Andy McDonald.

Getz ended up being a true #1 and I'm not sure Andy McDonald was ever a true #1.


That team had some great depth down the middle...but I think Julien had everything to do with those low point totals, not a lack of a true #1. They did however play Krejci/Bergy as more of a 1A/1B though.
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I agree. It was a deep team that didn't rely on 1 line, which is why giving a firm "This is a #1C...." definition is going to fail. It's more than just numbers. You just know it when you see it. And a guy like ROR may have only been a true #1 for a season or 2.
 
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Boqvist is an interesting signing. Depth move, young, put up 10 goals last year and 10 the year before.

Might have him eyed to center the 4th line? (yikes, his faceoff numbers are bad)
 
False Start said:
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McAvoy was worse when tied with Forbort.
Clifton thrived with Lindholm and was merely average at best with Forbort.
Grzelyck played most of his time with Carlo / McAvoy and didn't fit with Forbort.
Orlov comes and they try him and Forbort and it never worked.
Carlo and Forbort? They tried that too and it didn't work.

I can't think of ONE player that played well with Forbort.
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Clifton with Forbort were more than adequate no?
 
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Another great value deal for the bottom 6. Young and good offensive stats for $775k. I don’t know much about his game but on paper looks like a good depth move.
 
PlayMakers said:
Sweeney thinks they lost because of bad goaltending, as he said during his end of season press conference.

Colorado's defense wasn't very physical when they won.

You can get hammered and still win. Gudas hammered Vegas forwards and lost. Although, if our forwards getting hammered is why we lost (according to you) wouldn't that mean we need bigger forwards to take the abuse and hammer back? Bigger forwards like Lucic, JVR and Geekie.
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YES!!!
BIGGER FORWARDS!!!

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