2023 NHL Entry Draft

[Kudo Shinichi]

If the Habs draft 5th and have the chance to pick Michkov, I wonder if they would. I know I absolutely would.

Easily. He's not falling past 4. The question is whether we would take him at 2 or not

 

[MarkovsKnee]

I've caught a bit of Dvorsky recently.

The guy is a PP savant. Would immediately be the best half-wall player we've had since Kovalev. His shooting and scoring instincts are well documented, but his playmaking really flies under the radar. He consistently makes quick, accurate passes through the box. Pinpoint saucer passes on both forehand and backhand. There's shades of Kucherov there.

I've also liked his in-zone play at both ends of the ice. His positioning is overall, quite excellent. He's got a good frame and compete level, if a little underdeveloped physically. He'll be an above average player on the boards, down low and in the faceoff dot. He's calm with the puck and consistently makes the right reads with it.

His biggest weakness is 5v5 neutral zone/transition play. He's just not a dynamic puck carrier, and doesn't really push the pace of play. Not really a threat to take the puck inside or beat a defender 1-on-1. I can see why Slaf (assertive) and Mesar (dynamic puck carrying) would compliment him very well. HIs off-puck offensive play and instincts are much stronger, at least before the play settles down in the OZ.

All in all, I wouldn't be upset taking him at 5. As he is, I don't think Monahan is a bad comparable, with higher playmaking/PP upside. If he can find an extra gear in his skating, which is only fine right now, it would really help him hit another level.

My thoughts pretty much too. He's a grinder who lacks puck carrying dynamism at 5 on 5. Isn't explosive but is a strong & fluid skater. His wingers are fast and create a lot of open ice for him through the neutral zone.

He's a bit Danault-ish, but with a much better shot.

I have to watch him more, because so far I'm actually hesitant about him after these early viewings.

Will be interesting to see him at WJC with Mesar.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

 

[RationalExpectations]

Easily. He's not falling past 4. The question is whether we would take him at 2 or not

Not falling past 3 in my opinion, Bedard, Fantili and who ?

 

[RationalExpectations]

Reminder about Allsvenskan scoring, 0.6ppg is the line we're looking for. If Dvorsky is at or around there, rank him highly. Only 2 players have achieved that mark in their D year: Nylander and Pastrnak

Pettersson was a PPG in the Allensvenskan.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Pettersson was a PPG in the Allensvenskan.

Correct, totally forgot about him.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Andrew Cristall keeps up the pace with another 2 goals. Kid is starting to look like the real deal to me. With the draft the way it is, you might get this guy at a really good price.

 

[NewEraGM]

Great night for the habs draft picks!
- habs lose
- Seattle, Arizona, Philadelphia win
- Anaheim and San Jose 3 point game
- Vancouver and Nashville 3 point game
- Florida loss
- Atlantic division looks extremely tough and Florida is going to have a hard time getting top 3

 

[MonkeyBusiness]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Florida miss the playoffs, they haven't been convincing as of yet and the eastern conference is stacked. Now let's just hope the stinkers in Ottawa can win a few games in a row (I wouldn't hold my breath, though). To those who have watched Leo Carlsson recently, what would explain his recent drop in production? Don't get me wrong, his stats are still phenomenal for a young guy in the SHL.

Pettersson was a PPG in the Allensvenskan.

Filip Forsberg produced slightly below 0.4 ppg and still developed into quite the player. I remember watching him a lot that year and he always impressed me. If Dvorsky scores at 0.6 ppg I think that would be quite the feat.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Filip Forsberg produced slightly below 0.4 ppg and still developed into quite the player. I remember watching him a lot that year and he always impressed me. If Dvorsky scores at 0.6 ppg I think that would be quite the feat.

Did not see otherwise just said the previous poster forgot Pettersson

 

[TheGr8Cornholio]

Great night for the habs draft picks!
- habs lose
- Seattle, Arizona, Philadelphia win
- Anaheim and San Jose 3 point game
- Vancouver and Nashville 3 point game
- Florida loss
- Atlantic division looks extremely tough and Florida is going to have a hard time getting top 3

I’m cheering for Detroit and Buffalo big time this year.

The Panthers had some pretty easy matchups to start the year. They face the Ducks tonight but their schedule will get tougher starting on Nov 9.

 

[Sagikev]

So I dreamt that we won the lottery... with both picks, and we end up picking 1st and 2nd.

I now consider this scenario canon and the future. No one can tell me otherwise.

Thank me later boys

 

[MonkeyBusiness]

Did not see otherwise just said the previous poster forgot Pettersson

And I simply added Forsberg to the list of impressive players that came out of the Allsvenskan.

 

[Richard Bolton]

So I dreamt that we won the lottery... with both picks, and we end up picking 1st and 2nd.

I now consider this scenario canon and the future. No one can tell me otherwise.

Thank me later boys

Can I thank you now instead since this future is canon anyway?

 

[atrud66]

My thoughts pretty much too. He's a grinder who lacks puck carrying dynamism at 5 on 5. Isn't explosive but is a strong & fluid skater. His wingers are fast and create a lot of open ice for him through the neutral zone.

He's a bit Danault-ish, but with a much better shot.

I have to watch him more, because so far I'm actually hesitant about him after these early viewings.

Will be interesting to see him at WJC with Mesar.

Dvorsky's skating needs to improve to be effective in the NHL

 

[Mrb1p]

My thoughts pretty much too. He's a grinder who lacks puck carrying dynamism at 5 on 5. Isn't explosive but is a strong & fluid skater. His wingers are fast and create a lot of open ice for him through the neutral zone.

He's a bit Danault-ish, but with a much better shot.

I have to watch him more, because so far I'm actually hesitant about him after these early viewings.

Will be interesting to see him at WJC with Mesar.

I think things would fix themselves if he gained a slightly faster first step.

But yeah thats a big ask IMO.

 

[Goldenhands]

So I dreamt that we won the lottery... with both picks, and we end up picking 1st and 2nd.

I now consider this scenario canon and the future. No one can tell me otherwise.

Thank me later boys

And we ended up with? Bedard and Carlsson hopefully...

 

[NotProkofievian]

This kometa brno game is unwatchable.

 

[KevSkillz4]

And we ended up with? Bedard and Carlsson hopefully...

I really like Carlsson, but if Habs pick at 1 and 2, I would select Bedard and Fantilli without hesitation. I'm high on Carlsson and Michkov, but Michkov have a contract in KHL and Fantilli looks dominant right there. Already 20 points in 10 games at NCAA... that's huge.

All I want is a top 10 pick with Habs pick and Florida miss the playoffs... so having 2 top 16 pick, that's very very good.

 

[Goldenhands]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Florida miss the playoffs, they haven't been convincing as of yet and the eastern conference is stacked. Now let's just hope the stinkers in Ottawa can win a few games in a row (I wouldn't hold my breath, though). To those who have watched Leo Carlsson recently, what would explain his recent drop in production? Don't get me wrong, his stats are still phenomenal for a young guy in the SHL.

Watched a bit of his last game and he is playing on the 3rd line, but still on the top PP unit. Ended up with a primary assist.

His team is trash and only got an handful of scoring chances the whole game. Thats the thing with SHL, big ice, great skaters, good puck possession players. very few mistakes ect., so its tougher for a kid to shine and get on the scoreboard with regularity. I was reading that he wasnt shooting enough, thats because he just doesnt get the same opportunities other kids have at lower levels, if you take a look at his international junior stats, he has no issue scoring goals. Do you guys think Bedard would fire 10 shots a game in the SHL the same way he does at the junior level?

 

[Goldenhands]

I really like Carlsson, but if Habs pick at 1 and 2, I would select Bedard and Fantilli without hesitation. I'm high on Carlsson and Michkov, but Michkov have a contract in KHL and Fantilli looks dominant right there. Already 20 points in 10 games at NCAA... that's huge.

All I want is a top 10 pick with Habs pick and Florida miss the playoffs... so having 2 top 16 pick, that's very very good.

Carlsson would kill it at the NCAA level as well. Personally Im higher on Carlsson, but thats fine, Fantilli is a good player too.

 

[NotProkofievian]

To get more consistent production, Carlsson will have to shoot more often. Bearing in mind that he's still top 30 in scoring in the SHL, he's 12th in assists, but outside the top 100 for goals. It's just hard to keep up PPG pace when you're on pace for 6 goals, and putting less than 2 pucks on net per game.

 

[rahad]

And we ended up with? Bedard and Carlsson hopefully...

Would you make Bedard play in the wing or center in the NHL?

 

[Goldenhands]

To get more consistent production, Carlsson will have to shoot more often. Bearing in mind that he's still top 30 in scoring in the SHL, he's 12th in assists, but outside the top 100 for goals. It's just hard to keep up PPG pace when you're on pace for 6 goals, and putting less than 2 pucks on net per game.

You have to get there, in those shooting areas, its much harder to get there than any other lower levels, SHL is a tough league, the reason why Carlsson's offensive production is exceptional and in line with some former elite NHLers in their draft year.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Would you make Bedard play in the wing or center in the NHL?

Center definitely. Kid will have a lot to learn but so did McDavid. Remember all the complaints about McDs "blow bys" and confusion defensively when Edmonton was awful during his first 5 years? Yeah, you don't hear that shit anymore.

I won't put the McDavid comparison against Bedard, but Stamkos is definitely in his realm especially with his shooting ability.