2023 NHL Entry Draft
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I just don't get it. Why would he draft a Hischier when we already have a Hischier in Suzuki?
Really? Wright? He's just continued his poor performances since the draft. I was screaming from the rafters for cooley but even Slaf is 2x better than Wright lol.
Habby Patty
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They're quite different players. While Dvorsky is an average to above average skater, Hischier is a great skater whose game is built around that, while Dvorsky's game is based on a more procedural approach. Hischier uses speed to attack, whereas Dvorsky uses his skating and puck protection to establish zone possession, and work from there.
Also it should be said, Hischier stepped right into the NHL and put up 52 points and 20 goals. That's not happening with Dvorsky, I think he needs some more time playing in a lesser league.
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I’ve heard Slaf has 100-120pts potential actually… He’s also better at hockey than every other player. He’s like a premium McDavid tbh.That would be absolutely fantastic, a top line PF with 80-90 pts potential + a strong top 6 puck possession center with 70-80 pts potential, Im sold.
Dvorsky is everything fans hoped Wright would be, cant go wrong here.
Goldenhands has always been a Slaf hater, claiming that he's merely the next Rantanen, and not the next Lemieux.
Sam I Am
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Amen.
I know you can easily put too much stock in the U18 tournament but Dvorsky's play was an advertisement of why skill in a big package is such a valuable commodity. Fantilli, Carlson or Dvorsky please.
Who are some guys who have one or two really special abilities, but for whatever reason have yet to put it together?
Some examples from last year would be Filmon, Gendron, and our very own Engström.
Some examples from last year would be Filmon, Gendron, and our very own Engström.
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A player with 130 pts upside needs to be trusted, Goldenhands clearly doesn’t have the player’s best interests at heart.
Why was Dvorsky, with his big package and skill, unable to score points in the Swedish men’s league?
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Wow, KK, has already played 51 playoff games. All things considered 12 goals in 51 games is pretty good but nothing mind blowing. Suzuki has scored his 11 goals in 32 playoff games for comparison sake.
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I don't even want to win the lottery for Bedard now I just want to win so I don't have to rage at all the potential we passed on for a meh player.
FrankMTL
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Connor Bedard, Adam Fantilli easy picks up top in NHL Mock Draft 1.0
The first few picks appear to be locks but what happens after that? We go over our NHL Mock Draft prior to the 2023 lottery.
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I have no problem at all with this mock draft
Gaylord Q Tinkledink
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Even if you move the 17th pick to 29th and get Musty, or But. Great draft.Connor Bedard, Adam Fantilli easy picks up top in NHL Mock Draft 1.0
The first few picks appear to be locks but what happens after that? We go over our NHL Mock Draft prior to the 2023 lottery.
I have no problem at all with this mock draft
I guess there's a possibility of that happening now. Slim, but more possible than it looked 3 weeks ago.
You missed the joke...Wood (Dubois, English for Wood)...build something solid...nevermind.
Same for you lol
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26Mats
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I just want to see what KK will be ine when he's in his prime. That will be the proof in the pudding of who he is.
Obscure stats won't reduce the drama that comes with waiting to find out.
Especially with goalies, chances are the so called best goalie going into the draft will be a lesser NHL goalie than some goalie, likely from Russia, taken in the 3rd round or later.
Ryan Leonard plays more like Keith Tkachuk than his sons Brady or Mathew Tkachuk.
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I 100% agree. I also still pick Slaf ahead of Cooley personally.
I was sarcastically answering the other poster who said Slafkovsky and Dvorksy would be a disappointment. I simply said Wright and Benson or etc would not be better.
People want to tank forever but its another story when you realise you are not guaranteed a McDavid or a Matthews.
Jaynki
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Its a good question that needs a pragmatic analysis.
Elias Petterson was PPG in this league in his draft year. Lekkerimaki had more points in the SHL last year then he had this year in the Allvenskan. Context matter.
Dvorsky has played with the worst team in this league. He also had low TOI and he did not have prime offensive minutes. Those are defensive league where most team plays the trap. Its unwatchable seriously. That does not explain everything of course but its something to consider. He is totally obliterating his peers tho. Dvorsky does not have the offensive tools of Petterson.
One thing, Fantilli will be 19 when the next NHL season starts. Dvorsky will still be 18 when the Stanley Cup is lifted in 2024. I hope Dvorsky will make the Slovakian team for the World Cup, that should give us a brighter idea of his ultimate potential.
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DramaticGloveSave
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Leonard competes hard but haven’t seen that Tkachuk edge at all. He won’t be fighting people, talking loads of crap at the opposing bench, or mixing it up after the whistle. Leonard to me is all business and that’s fine as it is.
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I watched a bit of Dvorskys league play, and it wasn’t a case where he was overwhelmed in the league. He was playing with plugs on his line, frequently Dvorsky would see thing they wouldn’t see. And as others said his role and TOI wasn’t optimal for production either.
And that’s why often production can be misleading as your linemates and usage have major impacts on your production. But Dvorskys skills were evident and he played a big body game against men that was very impressive, no fear at all in this kid.
The one thing he needs to work on is consistency in his stride, but otherwise he’s the complete package.
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Wright looked great in the OHL and his first stint in the AHL. The playoffs were a different story and that is a concern but you can't just ignore the majority of his work this season. He was never given a chance in Seattle as they have a deep lineup and were gunning for a playoff spot right out of the gate. Slaf struggled mightily and didn't remotely prove any detractors wrong although he never had the opportunity that Wright had to light up lesser leagues. If Wright was drafted by Montreal he likely would have been given the same opportunity that Slaf was given and very well might have impressed more than Slaf did.
In the end both players had old criticisms float back to the surface and serious questions about both players remain unanswered so to take a definitive side by saying one was much better than the other smells more of tribal bias than it does of an objective comparative analysis.
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