2023 NHL Entry Draft

[BoneHutson]

Im leaning towards Reinbacher more and more (as a Benson fan). Best case scenario (other than a lottery win) would be to draft Reinbacher at 5th, then move up to 8-10 and draft whoever is left between Leonard or Benson (doubt hed be there but who knows). WAS could be a great partner to move up as they might target a guy like Gulyayev or But who both should be available around our FLA pick.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

The game looks easy for Marner, and it's never looked easy for Benson in my viewings.

Exactly.

 

[atrud66]

Hrabal looks like the real deal

 

[Team_Spirit]

Hrabal looks like the real deal

Is he tho

 

[MarkovsKnee]

He’s overhated on here for no reason. Would love to pick him up at 17.

I can see Detroit or Vancouver taking him depends on how they value a center that might be available to him. I doubt he's there at 17.

 

[PavelBrendl]

Is he tho

Wicked shot by Šalé.

 

[Mrb1p]

I can see Detroit or Vancouver taking him depends on how they value a center that might be available to him. I doubt he's there at 17.

Does Vancouver really need a cheap Hughes emulator? They need everything but this IMO.

Detroir is for sure a target, hed look great with the big boys they have

Is he tho

Come on thats Sale shooting a sale shot.

 

[Schooner Guy]

Come to think of it I've never watched a game where ASP didn't impress me. He's always stood out to me. I guess he's an easy player to notice because of his skating and puck moving.

I was so impressed by his poise at the WJC. He looked like a 19 year old. Imagine if he grows a couple more inches!

8-0 loss for Canada eh? Wow! We should just draft Swedes with every pick.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Does Vancouver really need a cheap Hughes emulator? They need everything but this IMO.

Detroir is for sure a target, hed look great with the big boys they have


Come on thats Sale shooting a sale shot.

They have zero D prospects in their system. Only real prospect is Pettersson2. ASP is not playing next year. He's probably 2-3 years away. Hughes will only have about 2 years left on his contract. You can't know how things will develop.

Plus, they have a history of taking Swedes, but really he can be taken by any team from Detroit-Pittsburgh. He'll go in that 9-14 range.

 

[Mrb1p]

They have zero D prospects in their system. Only real prospect is Pettersson2. ASP is not playing next year. He's probably 2-3 years away. Hughes will only have about 2 years left on his contract. You can't know how things will develop.

Plus, they have a history of taking Swedes, but really he can be taken by any team from Detroit-Pittsburgh. He'll go in that 9-14 range.

Yeah I dont disagree with that. Their swede pool is big.

I think theyd do better going for Lindstein or Willander later though. Their pool as a whole is pretty weak all things considered.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

As Ive said, Zuccarelo is the comparison. I do disagree though, youre harsh on Bensons IQ and passing skills. Benson is always in the right spot and finds the right play more often than not, just like Marner does.

The big albatross for Benson is size, skating and shot. I dont like drafting a guy with three such weakness high, but Im making an exception for Benson. There is just something very optimistic about his upside with the IQ and intensity he displays.

You've won me over with: Benson's great. He's just small, can't skate & can't shoot. Lol

Those are 2 big qualities you've skipped over in skating & shooting.

It would be nice to have a team that can actually skate. Hughes has said he wants a team that can skate & play.

Wouldn't be surprised at all if they have Leonard & Reinbacher ahead of Benson.

I don't hate Benson, but I am starting to question his abilities to create at a higher level due to his skating. Can he improve it enough to actually be what people think he can be?

 

[Michoulicious]

I know a team that has a weak RD prospect pool.

The Montreal Canadiens.

If we pick one of the forwards at #5-7 and somehow can get ASP with the second first rounder, I'd be very glad. I'd not mind trading up for a 2nd/3rd rounder if he's still there at #12-15.

We already have physical Ds in the system (Xhekaj, Guhle, Mailloux to some extent). High offensive potential, we've got nothing outside of Hutson... Who's not guaranteed to make it.

ASP would fit like a glove to our timeline. One more year in Sweden, then a year in the AHL, the he can make his way onto the team. No rush, we can let him develop physically and his D game.

 

[BoneHutson]

I know a team that has a weak RD prospect pool.

The Montreal Canadiens.

If we pick one of the forwards at #5-7 and somehow can get ASP with the second first rounder, I'd be very glad. I'd not mind trading up for a 2nd/3rd rounder if he's still there at #12-15.

We already have physical Ds in the system (Xhekaj, Guhle, Mailloux to some extent). High offensive potential, we've got nothing outside of Hutson... Who's not guaranteed to make it.

ASP would fit like a glove to our timeline. One more year in Sweden, then a year in the AHL, the he can make his way onto the team. No rush, we can let him develop physically and his D game.

Mailloux is NOT a physical dman. Hes a heck of an offensive one tho (only need to see how much it translates)

 

[Skip Bayless]

I know a team that has a weak RD prospect pool.

The Montreal Canadiens.

If we pick one of the forwards at #5-7 and somehow can get ASP with the second first rounder, I'd be very glad. I'd not mind trading up for a 2nd/3rd rounder if he's still there at #12-15.

The minute Reinbacher goes, you'll see the other top D start going. For some reason, teams panic when Ds start to get picked.

I can see habs picking Reinbacher if they fall in the lottery. Otherwise, we will be drafting a F this summer.

 

[Michoulicious]

Mailloux is NOT a physical dman. Hes a heck of an offensive one tho (only need to see how much it translates)

Mailloux offensive upside is limited by his poor vision/IQ. I don't see him running a PP.

I said "to some extent" because I've seen him lay big hits in the past... He dialed it down quite a bit. He's big, I think has still that in him.

Got a great shot, I'll give him that... That's what allows him to score so much at the OHL as an overager.

Maybe he can make it and produce from the point like OEL/Weber were doing, but it looks like the big shot from the D on the first PP is a bit out of favor nowadays.

ASP can thread the needle with passes, join the rush and walk the line on the PP. He has 1st PP duties written all over him.

Now he needs to learn to defend against men.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Is he tho

High end skating, high end stickhandling, high end shot in one motion.

Michkov, Smith or Sale crew.

 

[ReHabs]

I think skating used to be underrated but now it’s getting overrated. Players are so good at skating now that average skating is called mediocre and mediocre skating is called bad.

I say this blind, I’m not referring to Benson or any others. Point doesn’t stand out as a skater but he’s incredible. Slick hands and a smart head are probably the most important traits these days. That’s why I favoured Wright over Slaf, I felt Wright’s issues were much more easily forgiven.

 

[SOLR]

I can read just fine.

Guhle is a fast skater and hes not a "low standard for speed."

thats what you said.

Benson is 100% in a similar tier when it comes to IQ, vision and hands. Marner has better skating, Benson has a better motor.

That's right, that's what I said, because it's true.

In our draft selection, we need to keep thinking about speed, particularly for the forwards. But going around and saying we are fast and naming "Caufield and Guhle" as examples of speed, sounds pretty bad in my view (particularly Caufield lol) vs. Stutzle, Marner, Savoie, Hughes etc.

Guhle is part of a fast defence group, so we don't need him to be an elite skater, he's a good one. When Mailloux and Hutson are added hopefully, with Matheson, Harris, Barron etc. this D will be one of the fastest.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Don’t want to overreact to one day of U18s lol but my initial thoughts are that I really hope we move up in the lottery and that I think keeping 17 would be wise. The second tier looks huge, picking 5th we could end up with a similar guy who goes 17.

In terms of getting PLD, Anderson+Harris+Farrell would be my initial offer.

 

[Mrb1p]

You've won me over with: Benson's great. He's just small, can't skate & can't shoot. Lol

Those are 2 big qualities you've skipped over in skating & shooting.

It would be nice to have a team that can actually skate. Hughes has said he wants a team that can skate & play.

Wouldn't be surprised at all if they have Leonard & Reinbacher ahead of Benson.

I don't hate Benson, but I am starting to question his abilities to create at a higher level due to his skating. Can he improve it enough to actually be what people think he can be?

Yeah, as I said, I dont like this, but when the players produce and look as good as Benson, I kinda make an exception. Plus he has the added benefit of his intensity.

Cant skate and cant shoot is a bit of an exaggeration, hes an above average skater IMO, just speed wise hes average, and he can shoot above average too.

His IQ is tough to go against a guy like RHP doesnt have half the raw talent (shooting, skating but mainly hands) as Zack, but he sure as hell is a productive player, just this should be pretty encouraging IMO.

Plus hes gonna be coached by MSL.

 

[McGees]

 

[TomKosto]

There was one sequence in that weekend Oilers/Habs game where Guhle went stride for stride against McDavid, while moving BACKWARDS and completely shut that play down. It was a thing of beauty.

Yea I remember that, I guess we are all in the wrong.

 

[Schooner Guy]

Mailloux offensive upside is limited by his poor vision/IQ. I don't see him running a PP.

I said "to some extent" because I've seen him lay big hits in the past... He dialed it down quite a bit. He's big, I think has still that in him.

Got a great shot, I'll give him that... That's what allows him to score so much at the OHL as an overager.

Maybe he can make it and produce from the point like OEL/Weber were doing, but it looks like the big shot from the D on the first PP is a bit out of favor nowadays.

ASP can thread the needle with passes, join the rush and walk the line on the PP. He has 1st PP duties written all over him.

Now he needs to learn to defend against men.

I'm not trying to be too anal as I agree with your main points but Mailloux isn't an over-ager. He's in his 19-year old season after only having 16 OHL games under his belt. Next year would be his over-age season but he'll be in the AHL. Jackeye was an over-ager last year.

It's mostly big clappers that are out of favour on NHL PPs nowadays. Strong wrist shots with quick release are still valuable and Mailloux has an NHL star calibre wrister. He also makes laser passes.

I like ASP a lot. I'm not sure if a serious contender can have both him and Hutson in the same line-up. However if both happen to pan out, offensive D are terrific trade chips.

 

[jrom]

How come?

Just hire some Russian representative of MTL to go talk to him. Or video conference Michkov.
The Caps obtained Miroshnichenko's medical records pre-draft. Shit, Mario Lemieux Zoom meeting Miroshnichenko about Hodgkin’s disease pre-draft. Avangard Omsk's assistant GM translated for both.

All it takes is a little effort.

Bobrov’s father works for St-Petersburg SKA who owns Mitchkov’s rights. Don’t think lack of insider info will be an issue.

 

[SamHabsFan]

Is he tho

Damn that was a laser beam of a shot!