2023 NHL Entry Draft

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This is like the millionth time that you go on a tirade about draft or hockey analysts not being sportive so their opinions are of no relevance. And not even like one sentence either, it’s always paragraphs long about how much you dislike these people, jumping to the conclusion, without ever knowing them, that they’ve never played so they can’t understand the game. You need to get a grip.

You know who is a “nerd” that never played sports? Theo Epstein. That guy takes shits that are more sports successful than you could ever claim to be. Kyle Dubas too if you want a hockey example.
Holy cry harder bud
 
Seeing a lot of talk of Habs interested in Reinbacher. Is he better than Jiricek was?
No I would not say so be ause they are very different players. They are very different players though. Jiricek has the potential to be a 1D offensive Dman, while being physical and responsible defensively. However, I would say that defensive IQ in the sense of decision making is lower for Nemec or Reinbacher. The transition game is also better for Nemec (maybe for Reinbacher too I am not sure). On the other hand neither of the two are as gifted on the PP / in offensive zone. I d say Reinbacher is an interesting mix of what I liked in Nemec Jiricek last year which is why I really like him.
 
He's in the same ballpark. He's more well-rounded than Jiricek and Nemec.

He has a lot of Jiriceks power and he blends a lot of Nemecs brainy play too.

Skating: Nemec and Reinbacher are similar. Reinbacher is a bit more powerful, I think. (Jiricek is good too, just a tad worse.)
Shot: Jiricek, but Reinbacher has a very good one too. Nemec isn't bad, but doesn't use it as much and isn't as strong (Think Markov)
Passing: Nemec is by far the best, Reinbacher and then Jiricek, but these two are close.
Physicality: Jiricek and Reinbacher are similar, punishing boys. Nemec isn't.
Defensively: They're young, but Reinbacher has shown more at the same age. I'd go Jiricek and Nemec, it's likely not gonna be a weakness for any of them.

They're all similar.
Yes interesting mix of the two, but likely never the best in any of those categories.
Skating: N, R, J (As much as I am a Reinbacher fan, his skating is not as fluid as Nemec)
Shot: J, R, N
Passing : N, R, J
Physicality : J, R, N (Reinbacher plays physically but Jiricek is just a beast)
Defensively : N, R, J (Reinbacher uses his physicality better than Nemec but I have never been more impressed in a Dman defensive IQ at the draft than I have been with Nemec)
 
Like I said before, Yager will be gone top 12, no doubt. He is a really solid hockey player and Habs will consider him at range 5-6-7. I'm 100% confident that Yager is a special talent and people need to be happy if Habs select him. I'm a big fan of Yager game. C or winger at NHL, he have tools to dominate and become a two-way beast. Skate like MacKinnon aswell.
 
Because ignorant people bother me. Devaluing someone’s opinion and hard work because of invented reasons is just pathetic. You deserve to be called out on it. You don’t have to like it, but you go through the trouble of spewing the nonsense day after day, so I guess you can sit through being criticized.

I mean Jesus, you’re on a message board where 90% of the people don’t even watch the prospects and most probably don’t play hockey. But I guess there’s no jealousy on your part since they aren’t getting paid for it?

It’s like getting upset at an oncologist because they simply studied cancer but never had it.
You just have to take it for the comedy that it is
 
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Yager is a great prospect and I haven't been worried about his production all year. Happy to know the Habs have talked to him a lot since he's a viable option at 6 or 7.


Like I said before, Yager will be selected in top 12, no doubt about that in my mind. Two-way beast + skate like MacKinnon + have great shot. I aswell think that he can be a option at 5 aswell... Even if id prefer Smith. Habs will certainly consider Yager at 5-6-7, he is good like that. His playoffs so far can make him a top 6 pick on draft day.
 
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I like Yager A LOT. I don’t know if I like him enough to pick him at 5 or 6 but I’d heavily consider it after 7. Can’t see him falling out of the top 10 and past 12 at the lowest.

Welcome to the party, I've had Yager 5th all year. Still there...

Like I said before, Yager will be selected in top 12, no doubt about that in my mind. Two-way beast + skate like MacKinnon + have great shot. I aswell think that he can be a option at 5 aswell... Even if id prefer Smith. Habs will certainly consider Yager at 5-6-7, he is good like that. His playoffs so far can make him a top 6 pick on draft day.

He's going top 6-7 because of Hlinka alone...and now if he raises his game in the playoffs again...these guys are more valuable than the regular season point scorers.
 
Because ignorant people bother me. Devaluing someone’s opinion and hard work because of invented reasons is just pathetic. You deserve to be called out on it. You don’t have to like it, but you go through the trouble of spewing the nonsense day after day, so I guess you can sit through being criticized.

I mean Jesus, you’re on a message board where 90% of the people don’t even watch the prospects and most probably don’t play hockey. But I guess there’s no jealousy on your part since they aren’t getting paid for it?

It’s like getting upset at an oncologist because they simply studied cancer but never had it.

Does an oncologist have to fight cancer with his bare hands? It's a terrible analogy (another).

Someone who has played obtains another layer of information vs. someone who hasn't played. I'm sure oncologists would like to be miniaturized and injected in their patients to fight cancer with laser beams. Because this way, they would gain more information about where the cancer is and what is it doing (that they wouldn't get from other instruments, imagery or blood work)

Before you throw accusations of jealousy around might want to have some kind of sound logic.
 
Looks like Wood may be a top 10 pick. If you were ever looking to complement a great puck carrier and passer like Dach, it would be a guy like Wood. I don't see why Wood should not be in the same conversation as Benson, Smith, and Leonard. All great prospects, but all not perfect.

At 17, yes, for sure. He have high potential. But not at 5-6-7, too risky. Need to be between Benson, Smith, Leonard, Yager, Dvorsky, Moore or Reinbacher. (One of them and Im a happy guy).

At 17, we can talk about Daniil But, Matthew Wood, Quentin Musty and my favorite... Samuel Honzek. If Habs want size and skill, they are all great options at 17.
 
At 17, yes, for sure. He have high potential. But not at 5-6-7, too risky. Need to be between Benson, Smith, Leonard, Yager, Dvorsky, Moore or Reinbacher. (One of them and Im a happy guy).

At 17, we can talk about Daniil But, Matthew Wood, Quentin Musty and my favorite... Samuel Honzek. If Habs want size and skill, they are all great options at 17.
Glad to see you finally added Dvorsky and Reinbacher to your list.

Choo choo!
 
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The great thing is that if we're picking 17th with the Panthers pick, there will be some great options there as this draft seems to have a very clustered feel after the top 6-7 (some may even say between 5-12), but there will a good player that will drop.

After the top 4 of Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson and Michkov

(in no particular order)

Benson
Smith
Reinbacher
Dvorsky
Leonard
Sale
Barlow
Cristall
Danielson
Moore
Yager
ASP
Wood

That makes 17 right there, so we'd be guaranteed 2 of the above players...Some might obviously have Honzek or Musty in there, but the point is, there will be a talented player on the board at 17.
 
Glad to see you finally added Dvorsky and Reinbacher to your list.

Choo choo!

Yeah, I'm fine with these players aswell. I'm more Benson, Smith, Leonard, Moore or Yager guy, but Dvorsky and Reinbacher have high potential for sure. Habs are in very good hands if they draft one of them.
 
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The great thing is that if we're picking 17th with the Panthers pick, there will be some great options there as this draft seems to have a very clustered feel after the top 6-7 (some may even say between 5-12), but there will a good player that will drop.

After the top 4 of Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson and Michkov

(in no particular order)

Benson
Smith
Reinbacher
Dvorsky
Leonard
Sale
Barlow
Cristall
Danielson
Moore
Yager
ASP
Wood

That makes 17 right there, so we'd be guaranteed 2 of the above players...Some might obviously have Honzek or Musty in there, but the point is, there will be a talented player on the board at 17.

Agree with you. I think Honzek and Musty should be a easily target for Habs at this point. But one of these players you names, that's really good to have a chance to draft one of them aswell... we can certainly add Gabe Perreault and Riley Heidt aswell. Depth, depth draft. It's a really good thing that Florida pick likely become 17th overall, that's a great spot. Don't forget that Habs drafted Caufield and Guhle at 15 and 16, that's huge.
 
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