2023 NHL Entry Draft

[crosbyshow]

I am 48 years old.and I remember when young Russian stars like fetisov and Makarov..were drafted around the 12th round at the time.

Btw..Makarov was in my view the third best player in the world of the 80s after 99 and 66... yes he was a lot better than Stastny, Denis Savard, Mark Messier etc...but at the time nobody thought that he will cross the ocean.

He did but at 30 years old only because of the fall of.Soviet Union.

Geopolitics, dictators etc has consequences...yes even in Hockey.

Those.who thinks that Michkov will cross the ocean in 3 years.for sure are.either very naïve , or they don't watch any news.

Or relations with Russia is getting worse and worse . We could expect the.same.situation than the.60S, 70s,80s sooner or later unfortunately

Michkov will fall.at.the draft outside of the top 5 and.maybe even the top 10.

Conor Bedard would fall too btw if he was Russian

 

[Sterling Archer]

i think Bobrov has a big say on who we draft from watching last years draft videos so does him being Russian help our chances of gambling on Michkov or no? i guess no one knows at this point Molson can also have a say on it

I think he would but this isn't an issue of drafting the talent, it's drafting the player and his situation. No doubt, if he wasn't Russian, he'd probably go no. 2, but it's the situation that is scaring off teams. That's a HuGo decision IMO, and they'll be the ones that decide to take the risk or go with a less talented, safer bet.

 

[junyab]

I was hoping and expecting we'd take Brady, but when we selected KK I was happy and hopeful we would solve our 1C problem. Oh well.

 

[morhilane]

i think Bobrov has a big say on who we draft from watching last years draft videos so does him being Russian help our chances of gambling on Michkov or no? i guess no one knows at this point Molson can also have a say on it

Bobrov has probably better contacts in Russia than a lots of people do. So he's a better judge of what is happening there and what might happen regarding hockey players. He might also have it easier than others to contact Michkov's entourage.

But that doesn't meant that tweet is true.

 

[ginomini]

Little subject change, but staying in Russia. I haven't watched any Russians prospect but noticed that Grant is on the Gulyayev hypetrain lately (video titled: the russian makar?). I watched a few highlights and... is it just me or is he not impressive at all. Looks more like Chris Campoli than he does Makar. Great skater, but zero creativity, even in his highlights he doesn't create anything. Just skates in straight line and either dumps in or loses the puck all the time. Plus, he has a very weak shot.

Just from watching a few decently long videos I would absolutely not give him a first round grade.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Little subject change, but staying in Russia. I haven't watched any Russians prospect but noticed that Grant is on the Gulyayev hypetrain lately (video titled: the russian makar?). I watched a few highlights and... is it just me or is he not impressive at all. Looks more like Chris Campoli than he does Makar. Great skater, but zero creativity, even in his highlights he doesn't create anything. Just skates in straight line and either dumps in or loses the puck all the time. Plus, he has a very weak shot.

Just from watching a few decently long videos I would absolutely not give him a first round grade.

He's definitely a first round defenseman.. but he's a LHD, and russian.. and he's more of a mid 1st without the russian factor.

Russian Makar is just him trying to get hits and trying to be the smartest person in the room.

 

[Mrb1p]

Little subject change, but staying in Russia. I haven't watched any Russians prospect but noticed that Grant is on the Gulyayev hypetrain lately (video titled: the russian makar?). I watched a few highlights and... is it just me or is he not impressive at all. Looks more like Chris Campoli than he does Makar. Great skater, but zero creativity, even in his highlights he doesn't create anything. Just skates in straight line and either dumps in or loses the puck all the time. Plus, he has a very weak shot.

Just from watching a few decently long videos I would absolutely not give him a first round grade.

He is a 2nd round prospect for me. Got him out the top 40.

Ive see the same thing as you. Unlike Reinbacher, Morin or Dragicevic, he just wont jump up inside the zone and thats the first sign of a bad offensive player. You wont create chance from walking the line inside outside, it needs to be the opposite.

Hes also slight and doesnt possess any real tools that can translate into anything but a slightly better Mete. Hes not as good a skater as Mete either, so...

 

[badfish]

Doesn't Bobrov have ties to KHL and more specifically to SKA St. Petersburg where Michkov plays? That might position him better than others to have inside knowledge of Michkov that you can't get from TV. Similar to how Craig Ramsay provided feedback last draft on Slaf.

 

[Mrb1p]

Doesn't Bobrov have ties to KHL and more specifically to SKA St. Petersburg where Michkov plays? That might position him better than others to have inside knowledge of Michkov that you can't get from TV. Similar to how Craig Ramsay provided feedback last draft on Slaf.

If its the same feedback Ramsay got maybe were better off going with the TV this time.

 

[Schooner Guy]

I think he would but this isn't an issue of drafting the talent, it's drafting the player and his situation. No doubt, if he wasn't Russian, he'd probably go no. 2, but it's the situation that is scaring off teams. That's a HuGo decision IMO, and they'll be the ones that decide to take the risk or go with a less talented, safer bet.

100%. The scouting team will lead the ranking of the players based on what they'd bring to a team. But HuGo will make the call on where in the draft they'd be willing to take Michkov based on their risk tolerance.

 

[Hins77]

I was hoping and expecting we'd take Brady, but when we selected KK I was happy and hopeful we would solve our 1C problem. Oh well.

In my case, I was hoping between Tkachuk and Zadina. KK was a reach and I didnt like the fact that his name just rose at the middle/end of the year. He was like a mid first pick at the beginning of the year, and still was, on few list at the end of it.
I remember, many posters were arguing with me by the fact « Tkachuk was like one year older than KK »
Honestly, I will never buy this fact. If a player is going to be eligible on draft 2018, I will compare this player against player on his same draft. I won’t judge a guy like Tkachuk with player on the previous draft (2017), cause he is the oldest guy of the draft.
I was sure Montreal were selecting the big american guy like Tkachuk, and I was fine with, but yeah I thought Zadina was also valuable.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Doesn't Bobrov have ties to KHL and more specifically to SKA St. Petersburg where Michkov plays? That might position him better than others to have inside knowledge of Michkov that you can't get from TV. Similar to how Craig Ramsay provided feedback last draft on Slaf.

And Bobrov was there last year where the report came out that they wouldn't be taking Russians and Hughes was evasive in his answer to the report.

 

[DiglettDangles]

As much as I'd cream my pants on the remote scenario we pick Michkov with the FLA pick, there's just no way that Arizona won't pick him with the Ottawa pick (their second pick of the draft).

If only Ottawa had a coach that could shake those losers out of their patented late season funk... (off-topic but it's like they sold their soul for the Hamburglar miracle spring). I don't see them finishing higher (picking lower) than FLA, 71 vs 77 at this stage. They should be ashamed to be behind a FLA team coached by Paul Maurice.

For the record, I want Michkov with any MTL pick at position 2+.

 

[Mrb1p]

As much as I'd cream my pants on the remote scenario we pick Michkov with the FLA pick, there's just no way that Arizona won't pick him with the Ottawa pick (their second pick of the draft).

If only Ottawa had a coach that could shake those losers out of their patented late season funk... (off-topic but it's like they sold their soul for the Hamburglar miracle spring). I don't see them finishing higher (picking lower) than FLA, 71 vs 77 at this stage. They should be ashamed to be behind a FLA team coached by Paul Maurice.

For the record, I want Michkov with any MTL pick at position 2+.

Ottawa is forever a bunch of losers lmao its so funny

 

[Habs Halifax]

I was hoping and expecting we'd take Brady, but when we selected KK I was happy and hopeful we would solve our 1C problem. Oh well.

The area I ponder about with KK was it was clearly a long term project at center so is that over yet? No, Not really. A lot of us think that we were lucky to unload KK but the book is not out on that just yet. He still has loads of development to go through but I do think he made some gains this season. Modest gains but if he keeps improving, who knows where he is at age 25.

 

[jiboy]

Could Perreault rise up to top 10 and maybe even 8-9 ? I keep reading good stuff about him

Whats his weakness ?

 

[BergevinBurner]

Ottawa is forever a bunch of losers lmao its so funny

I thought for sure they'd make the playoffs with their additions last summer. Then you throw in Stutzle having a ridiculously good season, Giroux playing at a PPG pace and Chychrun at the deadline, yet they still look like the same old sens

 

[Mrb1p]

Could Perreault rise up to top 10 and maybe even 8-9 ? I keep reading good stuff about him

Whats his weakness ?

No way. Love Perrault but theres too many good players.

 

[hardcorehabs]

Cold Molson flex his we wallet and offer like $30 million to the KHL team to void Michov contract early? Or that not allowed by NHL?

Honestly $30 million is piss all to the brand that MTL marketing could build around Michkov

 

[WeThreeKings]

Cold Molson flex his we wallet and offer like $30 million to the KHL team to void Michov contract early? Or that not allowed by NHL?

Honestly $30 million is piss all to the brand that MTL marketing could build around Michkov

Not allowed.

 

[hardcorehabs]

Not allowed.

Slightly off topic, but is Molson brand not allowed to sponsor or endorse any NHLers?

Example) could Molson Beer offer endorsements to Michkov or is that conflict of interest?

Edit: I’m pretty sure I know the answer to this. Here’s a different, maybe more plausible scenario…..

Would NHL prevent a Montreal billionaire from offering a player $10 million to sign in MTL? Kinda like that Mets owner, just a die hard fan or group of rich fans looking to bribe a player to sign. Is there anyway the NHL could prevent that?

 

[WeThreeKings]

Slightly off topic, but is Molson brand not allowed to sponsor or endorse any NHLers?

Example) could Molson Beer offer endorsements to Michkov or is that conflict of interest?

I think that is fine as it is independent from the organization.. obviously the organization would be completely f***ed if it was found that the endorsement was used as quid pro quo for something.

Edit: Although, I think it is probably against the rules for a player to be sponsored by an alcohol company.

 

[NekkiChiconey]

Is there a specific reason why Oliver Moore is only committed to Minnesota in 24-25? Could that encourage the team that drafts him to send him to Medicine Hat and go the WHL route?

Ideally I think he needs 2 years before making the jump anyway, but I wouldn't like the idea of him playing in the USHL next year.

 

[Mrb1p]

Is there a specific reason why Oliver Moore is only committed to Minnesota in 24-25? Could that encourage the team that drafts him to send him to Medicine Hat and go the WHL route?

Ideally I think he needs 2 years before making the jump anyway, but I wouldn't like the idea of him playing in the USHL next year.

Uh, I didnt know that. Thats weird. Lasy thing Id want is for him to go the USHL route, hes gonna absolutely feast on that league with his skating and hes one of the players IMO that needs to find other ways to produce.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Is there a specific reason why Oliver Moore is only committed to Minnesota in 24-25? Could that encourage the team that drafts him to send him to Medicine Hat and go the WHL route?

Ideally I think he needs 2 years before making the jump anyway, but I wouldn't like the idea of him playing in the USHL next year.

Sometimes USNTDP players play a year in the USHL before heading to college.