2023 NHL Entry Draft

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Jackeyes brother scored his 10th goal for Hamilton tonight. Habs could use another enforcer.

I'm hoping they use a 7th on him just to get his rights.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

100%. I'm still trying to find holes in Danielson's game. I feel like he's overlooked because we're in a draft filled with highlight reel machines but every single element of his game is way above average and he's got solid fundamentals. You can tell that he pays attention to the smallest details when he's out there on the ice, like the way he keeps on tracking the play and puts himself in favorable positions to constantly helps his linemates and his dmen.

He may not be flashy or elite at anything but he's a highly effective player and I'm positive that his game will translate very well into the pros.

He's a target for me if we're picking in that 8-9 range. We'll see where Reinbacher lands, but Danielson/Reinbacher I'm good with that.

 

[Naslund]

Let's say we get the 9th and 10th picks, is Matthew Wood in the conversation? Is he more Thompson or Mantha? A 6'3'' all-star right-handed shooter who is a point-per-game in the NCAA (top scorer on his team) at 17 (not a late birthday). The skating is not great, but if he plays with a fast puck carrier and passer like Dach (or PLD...), that could be just what we need. I'm curious to hear what people think.

 

[Goldenhands]

He's a target for me if we're picking in that 8-9 range. We'll see where Reinbacher lands, but Danielson/Reinbacher I'm good with that.

Killer question, who do you like better between Smith and Danielson?

An even dirtiest one, how would you rank Dvorsky, Smith and Danielson?

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Killer question, who do you like better between Smith and Danielson?

Offensively, I still think Smith has that ability to get to ppg level at NHL. Danielson & Moore I'm not as sure about, but they play such high impact games with translatable skills that I love their overall games.

I had Moore & Leonard over Smith coming into this season just because of their overall games and abilities. Smith has really come into his own offensively this year though.

 

[Benstheman]

I think Habs end up with 7 and 11. If a team offers you 2, 3 or 4OA for both our picks, would you do it?

 

[Goldenhands]

I think Habs end up with 7 and 11. If a team offers you 2, 3 or 4OA for both our picks, would you do it?

Nope, I stay put and make the picks. We could end up with a top pairing defenseman (Reinbacher) and a strong top 6 foward. I would only move both picks for Bedard personally.

 

[Mrb1p]

I think Habs end up with 7 and 11. If a team offers you 2, 3 or 4OA for both our picks, would you do it?

Yes without a doubt. Id add in Slaf too. Or Hutson.

If its for Michkov Id probably think about Barron.

If its for 1, Id think about Dach/Suzuki.

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

I think Habs end up with 7 and 11. If a team offers you 2, 3 or 4OA for both our picks, would you do it?

If Michkov or Fantilli is on the board, without hesitation. It's a heavy price I would not pay in other years, but I think this would be a rare instance where their upsides coincides with the Habs' needs for a top flight prospect more than volume.

 

[Goldenhands]

If Michkov or Fantilli is on the board, without hesitation. It's a heavy price I would not pay in other years, but I think this would be a rare instance where their upsides coincides with the Habs' needs for a top flight prospect more than volume.

Fantilli is overrated, he is a strong skater who carries the puck well through the neutral zone, but he still makes questionnable plays in tight under pressure, falls way too easily on the ice (lacks strength) and his shooting selection questionable, kid doesnt have a great shooting arsenal. Has been ruled out of games twice in the last month for an head shot and seems to have a hard time to canalize his frustration. I dont think he is worth 2 high draft picks in a such draft, still less shiping Slafkovsky in the deal lol, you guys are funny...

 

[Cubebrick]

He's a target for me if we're picking in that 8-9 range. We'll see where Reinbacher lands, but Danielson/Reinbacher I'm good with that.

Reinbacher is another that has no glaring weakness in his game. These two are in my opinion the smartest two-way players at their own position in this draft.

I'd be very happy with one of them, ecstatic with both (although I feel like Reinbacher goes between 5 and 9 which could be out of reach for the Habs).

 

[DiglettDangles]

I think Habs end up with 7 and 11. If a team offers you 2, 3 or 4OA for both our picks, would you do it?

Immediately, every day of the week and 39 times on Sunday (see what I did there?).

The Habs already have a deep and skilled pool at all positions except G. There is nothing more urgent than true star power. While I recognize we need a top pair RHD, I'm actually quite confident in getting an interesting RHD next year even in picks 10-20 so Reinbacher is not a guy I feel obligated to pick to the point where I pass on someone from the trio behind Bedard.

In fact I'd even say getting a star this year is essential for the Habs to feel good about "closing" the rebuild and looking forward. If we end up with two second liners with the original picks, we're going into next year looking at going up in the standings and still not having that key piece. We won't be able to keep sucking this badly and maintain the historic LTIR numbers for another 2 years, so this year needs to be our year. Add anyone not named Suzuki/Caufield/Guhle/Dach/Slaf/Hutson. Honestly I'd even consider the last 3.

Unfortunately:
(1) I'm not holding my breath any top 4 team would make that trade this year, and
(2) based on the current standings it looks like we are shooting ourselves in the foot again and PLD will have to be That Guy.

Solution (inspired by Bergevin's patented defense philosophy):
"Stardom by committee"

 

[Goldenhands]

Reinbacher is another that has no glaring weakness in his game. These two are in my opinion the smartest two-way players at their own position in this draft.

I'd be very happy with one of them, ecstatic with both (although I feel like Reinbacher goes between 5 and 9 which could be out of reach for the Habs).

Dvorsky is incredibly smart too, I would be pleased with Danielson, but I think Dvorsky would be a better pick, has better shooting skills and a bit more offensive upside IMO.

 

[Mrb1p]

Immediately, every day of the week and 39 times on Sunday (see what I did there?).

The Habs already have a deep and skilled pool at all positions except G. There is nothing more urgent than true star power. While I recognize we need a top pair RHD, I'm actually quite confident in getting an interesting RHD next year even in picks 10-20 so Reinbacher is not a guy I feel obligated to pick to the point where I pass on someone from the trio behind Bedard.

In fact I'd even say getting a star this year is essential for the Habs to feel good about "closing" the rebuild and looking forward. If we end up with two second liners with the original picks, we're going into next year looking at going up in the standings and still not having that key piece. We won't be able to keep sucking this badly and maintain the historic LTIR numbers for another 2 years, so this year needs to be our year. Add anyone not named Suzuki/Caufield/Guhle/Dach/Slaf/Hutson. Honestly I'd even consider the last 3.

Unfortunately:
(1) I'm not holding my breath any top 4 team would make that trade this year, and
(2) based on the current standings it looks like we are shooting ourselves in the foot again and PLD will have to be That Guy.

Solution (inspired by Bergevin's patented defense philosophy):
"Stardom by committee"

Anything can happen -Bergy

 

[Cubebrick]

Dvorsky is incredibly smart too, I would be pleased with Danielson, but I think Dvorsky would be a better pick, has better shooting skills and a bit more offensive upside IMO.

I really like Dvorsky and I think he has a good hockey mind as well. He's definitely got the edge on Danielson offensively, at least he's definitely more proven at this point in time that's for sure, but I believe that Danielson's defensive game is on a tier of its own and I also think that his offensive game may have more room for growth.

This is not a knock against Dvorsky as I also like him a lot and I'd be happy with him as well. There's just no clear choice between these two at the moment for me personally but I'm slightly leaning towards Danielson.

 

[Playmaker09]

One kid I terribly underrated and passed over too quickly is Nate Danielson, I thought his skating was some kind of an issue, but I was terribly wrong, kid skates really well and reminds me alot of Owen Beck, both are cerebral centers playing strong 200 ft. hockey, similar skating and skills level, but I would say Danielson's offensive celling is even higher and does the little things even better. I really like his game, but with Beck already in the system, not sure he is a realistic target.

That draft is awesome, there will be candies for all teams still having their 1st round pick.

Love Danielson too. Reminds me of Dach in a lot of ways, just lacks the really high-end playmaking. On the other hand, he's more willing to shoot it.

At worst, he's a quality middle 6 two-way possession C/W (Eller?), but the ceiling can be much higher.

Whenever you'd bring up Brindley earlier, my first thought was always: Why wouldn't I just take Danielson instead, who does the same things in a 6'1 body?

 

[Goldenhands]

Love Danielson too. Reminds me of Dach in a lot of ways, just lacks the really high-end playmaking. On the other hand, he's more willing to shoot it.

At worst, he's a quality middle 6 two-way possession C/W (Eller?), but the ceiling can be much higher.

Whenever you'd bring up Brindley earlier, my first thought was always: Why wouldn't I just take Danielson instead, who does the same things in a 6'1 body?

Center vs winger, If the plan is to sign Dubois and Habs brass feel 100% confident to get him, then there is no need to draft a center and a kid like Brindley becomes a legit option with the Florida pick IMO. On the other side, if Dubois isnt a sure thing, Danielson could be a great pick, especially if we end up drafting Reinbacher with our own pick first. If Reinbacher is gone and we draft a center like Dvorsky with our own pick, then Leonard, Brindley, Moore are kids I would target with the other 1st.

Brindley is faster than Danielson and is an highly dynamic player, can play both positions, but I expect him to be a winger at the NHL level. Danielson is a crebral center, they dont really compare IMO.

 

[dcyhabs]

Immediately, every day of the week and 39 times on Sunday (see what I did there?).

The Habs already have a deep and skilled pool at all positions except G. There is nothing more urgent than true star power. While I recognize we need a top pair RHD, I'm actually quite confident in getting an interesting RHD next year even in picks 10-20 so Reinbacher is not a guy I feel obligated to pick to the point where I pass on someone from the trio behind Bedard.

In fact I'd even say getting a star this year is essential for the Habs to feel good about "closing" the rebuild and looking forward. If we end up with two second liners with the original picks, we're going into next year looking at going up in the standings and still not having that key piece. We won't be able to keep sucking this badly and maintain the historic LTIR numbers for another 2 years, so this year needs to be our year. Add anyone not named Suzuki/Caufield/Guhle/Dach/Slaf/Hutson. Honestly I'd even consider the last 3.

Unfortunately:
(1) I'm not holding my breath any top 4 team would make that trade this year, and
(2) based on the current standings it looks like we are shooting ourselves in the foot again and PLD will have to be That Guy.

Solution (inspired by Bergevin's patented defense philosophy):
"Stardom by committee"

Exactly. It’s possible they can be good with 9 second liners and 4 second pairing D, but they really need some top talent.

Seattle is winning starless, though. Their first line is weak compared to most but they make it up on the other lines.

 

[bcv]

Fantilli is overrated, he is a strong skater who carries the puck well through the neutral zone, but he still makes questionnable plays in tight under pressure, falls way too easily on the ice (lacks strength) and his shooting selection questionable, kid doesnt have a great shooting arsenal. Has been ruled out of games twice in the last month for an head shot and seems to have a hard time to canalize his frustration. I dont think he is worth 2 high draft picks in a such draft, still less shiping Slafkovsky in the deal lol, you guys are funny...

Who do you prefer, Slaf or Fantilli?

 

[Expos94]

I think Habs end up with 7 and 11. If a team offers you 2, 3 or 4OA for both our picks, would you do it?

Yes

 

[MarkovsKnee]

I think Habs end up with 7 and 11. If a team offers you 2, 3 or 4OA for both our picks, would you do it?

I'd probably stay with the 2 picks.

 

[RationalExpectations]

I think Habs end up with 7 and 11. If a team offers you 2, 3 or 4OA for both our picks, would you do it?

Yes I would because of Michkov but knowing the Habs they will pass on him so then I would not

 

[Benstheman]

Yes I would because of Michkov but knowing the Habs they will pass on him so then I would not

You would only do it for Michkov?

 

[RationalExpectations]

You would only do it for Michkov?

After 1OA yes. I think Dvorsky Reinbacher is likely better than Fantili or Carlsson alone but only my opinion. Having Caufield Michkov on your PP is just such a threat…

 

[JustAHabFan]

I think Habs end up with 7 and 11. If a team offers you 2, 3 or 4OA for both our picks, would you do it?

No team will do that this year.