2023 NHL Entry Draft

[MarkovsKnee]

I'd be pretty giddy to get Smith at 6.

Just need Vancouver to get a new coach bump, and no one behind us to win the lottery, and it's possible!

A bit better odds for a top 2 pick too.

 

[Mrb1p]

His stock keeps dropping. He may be one of those kids who peaked too early. He's also not producing. I don't like his trajectory.


There's not much to like about him this year.


Barron could skate though.

Thats ridiculous, Allen still has an insane skillset.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Just need Vancouver to get a new coach bump, and no one behind us to win the lottery, and it's possible!

A bit better odds for a top 2 pick too.

C'mon Sharks and Canucks.

 

[montreal]

haven't seen a lot of Stramel but that was his best game that i've seen

 

[MarkovsKnee]

haven't seen a lot of Stramel but that was his best game that i've seen

I'm pretty sure scouts think he's the next Charlie Coyle (went #28). That's who he reminds me of. I think that's his upside. A big, defensively strong 35-45 pt center.

 

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Well, I see Vancouver management is still looking to tank. I mean if they weren't they wouldn't have hired Tockett as HC.

So these guys will also be in the mix for Bedard

 

[jfhabs]

I'm pretty sure scouts think he's the next Charlie Coyle (went #28). That's who he reminds me of. I think that's his upside. A big, defensively strong 35-45 pt center.

I think he could be a fantastic player to play on your bottom 6, maybe middle 6. Paul Gustav 2.0 with a bit better goalscoring?

 

[MarkovsKnee]

I think he could be a fantastic player to play on your bottom 6, maybe middle 6. Paul Gustav 2.0 with a bit better goalscoring?

Yeah, essentially. Teams will definitely value that.

 

[Goldenhands]

I'm pretty sure scouts think he's the next Charlie Coyle (went #28). That's who he reminds me of. I think that's his upside. A big, defensively strong 35-45 pt center.

Thats a very good comparable IMO, not really a fan, but the comparison in term of size and playing style is pretty accurate IMO. Hopefully another team picks him before our 2nd.

 

[Goldenhands]

I don't watch American college hockey. When I look at the USDP prospect stats, I notice that G Perrault is the youngest of the group (W Smith, R Leonard, O Moore) but he is the one producing the most points. G Perrault 36 games= 69 points! W Smith 33 games=62 points , R Leonard 31 games=49 points, O Moore 34 games=46 points I know the points don't say everything but he is ranked lower than the other 3 according to McKenzie. For those who have seen him play, what kind of player is he and what is his potential? thank you

That top line of Perreault Smith Leonard is stacked, you have there 3 1st round talents playing on the same line, on a strong team, so obviously, they will rack up the points like crazy. While all 3 are highly talented, they all have strengths and weaknesses, with Perreault I would say the lack of physical involvement and a tendency to turn it over sometimes (IQ) makes him more difficult to project at the next levels, the reason why you will see him lower on most lists, but in term of skills alone, he is among the most talented of the draft.

 

[NotProkofievian]

I was the first one in on Reinbacher stop that right now, Im the true hip prospect dude

Look at me. LOOK at me. I am the Reinbacher stan now.

 

[HuGort]

Top prospect game this Wednesday.

Be good. Get first look at prospects we hear so much about on here

 

[McGees]

Look at me. LOOK at me. I am the Reinbacher stan now.

 

[HuGort]

That top line of Perreault Smith Leonard is stacked, you have there 3 1st round talents playing on the same line, on a strong team, so obviously, they will rack up the points like crazy. While all 3 are highly talented, they all have strengths and weaknesses, with Perreault I would say the lack of physical involvement and a tendency to turn it over sometimes (IQ) makes him more difficult to project at the next levels, the reason why you will see him lower on most lists, but in term of skills alone, he is among the most talented of the draft.

Would you be satisfied if we drafted that whole line first round? Good chance we acquire another first

 

[KevSkillz4]

I'd be pretty giddy to get Smith at 6.

I will be very happy with of one them with Habs 1st pick:

1-Bedard
2-Fantilli
3-Carlsson
4-Michkov
5-Benson
6-Smith
7-Yager
8-Dvorsky

Oliver Moore intrigue me a lot. So Moore and Barlow are maybe 9-10 for Habs to me. Sale is very talented. So deep. Habs are in good hands to draft a solid player even if they don't pick top 5. I'm very sure that 6-12, that's a chance to have a special player. Moore, Barlow, Sale looks have high potential. Some people like Leonard too. Lot of options right there! Can't wait at lottery day and draft day!

 

[KevSkillz4]

To me Dvorsky is easily a top 5 player in this draft. Smith have top 5 talent, for sure. Benson is really good aswell. In my ranking, I have Dvorsky at 5, Smith at 6 and Benson at 7. They all 3 really good prospect and teams will be happy to grab one of them at 5-7 range. They are easily top 2-3 talent on another draft.

 

[Schooner Guy]

Thats ridiculous, Allen still has an insane skillset.

Insane skillset? That's hilarious!

If that was the case, he'd put up points in the OHL and wouldn't be free falling on all draft lists. He's a kid who built a big name for himself after growing earlier than his peers. There is nothing top drawer about his "insane skillset".

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I wouldn't completely close the book yet on Cameron Allen, he's still a strong skating, potential two-way workhorse prospect if you can develop him correctly. There's certainly a point in the later first round where he makes a lot of sense, I wouldn't let him slip past me without really thinking about it if I'm picking in the 20's. He's having a complete garbage draft year but it doesn't negate everything else he's done before .

 

[Hope Of Glory]

Now I want Smith and ASP/Reinbacher with the Panthers pick.

Thanks for making me have unrealistic dreams, Bob.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Now I want Smith and ASP/Reinbacher with the Panthers pick.

Thanks for making me have unrealistic dreams, Bob.

It's weird.. ASP's WJC made me want him less where it seemed to accelerate his stock with everyone else.

 

[Mrb1p]

Insane skillset? That's hilarious!

If that was the case, he'd put up points in the OHL and wouldn't be free falling on all draft lists. He's a kid who built a big name for himself after growing earlier than his peers. There is nothing top drawer about his "insane skillset".

Hes a defensively responsible guy with a good toolbox. Its not a matter of peaking early at all to me, its a matter of projections. People thought hed take a big step into a PPG defender but he didn't, thats fine, not all good prospects have to be top 5 worthy players.

He still defends very well, he still holds the line up well, he still has a good shot, hes still a decent skater and he's got a solid build. He's a project, you pick him and hope he sticks together enough tools to be a 2nd pair D that can do it all. Lets not forget the usual time-table for defenders was 22-23, not 19-20 like weve been seeing in the past few years. One thing Ive noticed is that he tilts heavily on the defensive side this year, I don't know why he does it, if its coached, if its his decision, but he rarely every plays an aggressive game and he rarely pushes the pace. Of course, he's not a top 30 prospect for me, but he's still a good 2nd round bet.

Its very weird lately with all the super productive kids, a lot of good players that don't produce as much get lost in the shuffle because of it. It used to be that production like Cristall and Benson came every three or five years, now theres 5 of them in the WHL. Same can be said all over. Stats watching doesn't help anyone.

 

[Schooner Guy]

I wouldn't completely close the book yet on Cameron Allen, he's still a strong skating, potential two-way workhorse prospect if you can develop him correctly. There's certainly a point in the later first round where he makes a lot of sense, I wouldn't let him slip past me without really thinking about it if I'm picking in the 20's. He's having a complete garbage draft year but it doesn't negate everything else he's done before .

We should be thinking 5 years down the road. Not what he did when he was physically stronger than his peers. He may have plateaued. I just don't see anything about him that excites me other than he competes.

 

[Hope Of Glory]

It's weird.. ASP's WJC made me want him less where it seemed to accelerate his stock with everyone else.

17 years old with great skating being trusted by his coach more than the older guys in the final minutes (last game or the one before IIRC). This is impressive in a 19 years old's tourney.

Also his J20 production is pretty f***ing good (13 goals, 27 pts in 21 games) and his SHL numbers (5 in 17) are very good too for a D-1. And its not like he can't defend like Dragicevic.

A dynamic but somewhat undersized defenseman like him would be a good fit with Guhle IMO. Assuming Reinbacher is gone, he seems like a logical pick with the Panthers pick assuming its around 12-15. I'd rather him than a safer pick like Ritchie for sure. Might be gone sooner because of teams reaching for defensemen though.

 

[WeThreeKings]

17 years old with great skating being trusted by his coach more than the older guys in the final minutes (last game or the one before IIRC). This is impressive in a 19 years old's tourney.

Also his J20 production is pretty f***ing good (13 goals, 27 pts in 21 games) and his SHL numbers (5 in 17) are very good too for a D-1. And its not like he can't defend like Dragicevic.

A dynamic but somewhat undersized defenseman like him would be a good fit with Guhle IMO. Assuming Reinbacher is gone, he seems like a logical pick with the Panthers pick assuming its around 12-15. I'd rather him than a safer pick like Ritchie for sure. Might be gone sooner because of teams reaching for defensemen though.

I just didn't see the things that will make him produce points in the NHL. A real lack of deception and ability to move the defenders off their marks, especially on the PP. I didn't see any high end vision and his shot really didn't look menacing or a threat he was using.

He looks more like a two-way defender that's good not great on both sides of the puck. I'd actually prefer Dragicevic since I know the offense will translate if he can improve his defensive game or Reinbacher cause the defensive game is there if the offense doesn't grow and Reinbacher would fit really well with Hutson.

 

[SOLR]

We should be thinking 5 years down the road. Not what he did when he was physically stronger than his peers. He may have plateaued. I just don't see anything about him that excites me other than he competes.

You mean physically stronger at 16 vs the OHL? The rookie of the year?