Thanks for sharing that with us. A great read as always. Any thoughts on who you'd like to see NJ have a realistic shot at in the later second?
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Thanks for sharing that with us. A great read as always. Any thoughts on who you'd like to see NJ have a realistic shot at in the later second?
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We should talk about pure potential mostly on my taste.
And there are some rumours Florida interesting in Karpovich as potential pick in the second round. I understand their interest.
Daniil Karpovich - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Daniil Karpovich, 2004-12-06 Minsk, BLR Belarus. Most recently in the VHL with Gornyak-UGMK. Complete player biography and stats.
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Big mobile defenseman with upside on both sides.
Perron is an interesting option as high risk high reward option. He is on the small side and could drop because of it.
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Jayden Perron - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Jayden Perron, 2005-01-11 Winnipeg, MB, CAN Canada. Most recently in the NCAA with Univ. of North Dakota. Complete player biography and stats.
www.eliteprospects.com
I don`t think that Stramel will fall so low, but his lack of consistency and lack of production could scare some gms. Anyway he is and mobile twoway center.
Charlie Stramel - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Charlie Stramel, 2004-10-15 Rosemount, MN, USA USA. Most recently in the NCAA with Michigan State Univ.. Complete player biography and stats.
www.eliteprospects.com
Like @Xirik mentioned, Suniev is interesting for 2-3 round. He is big and have speed and puckhandling abuility. Need to work more on his skating, but again - he isn`t slow. And he has very good hands. Some kind of.. Nolan Foote may be. Not as physical(he can teach), but faster(it`s harder to teach).
Aydar Suniev - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Aydar Suniev, 2004-11-16 Kazan, RUS Russia. Most recently in the NCAA with Univ. of Massachusetts. Complete player biography and stats.
www.eliteprospects.com
@evnted mentioned sawchyn
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Gracyn Sawchyn at eliteprospects.com
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Gracyn Sawchyn, 2005-01-19 Grande Prairie, AB, CAN Canada. Most recently in the WHL with Edmonton Oil Kings. Complete player biography and stats.
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I believe I cant say more than evnted. He could be very good option if available.
Defenseman like Morin could be available, because of combo of mobility and puck skills with normal size, but I don`t like his defensive game. Strbak is good defensive defenseman with good puck work. Would be great if he can work on his skating more. As 2-3 round pick I`m ok with.
Maxim Strbak - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Maxim Strbak, 2005-04-13 Kosice, SVK Slovakia. Most recently in the NCAA with Michigan State Univ.. Complete player biography and stats.
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Kantserov is intriguing player as potential scoring cube. He is undersized 5`9, but his shot is deadly. And he is good in finding open space in the right time. He is good high risk high reward option for the third round.
Roman Kantserov - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Roman Kantserov, 2004-09-20 Magnitogorsk, RUS Russia. Most recently in the KHL with Metallurg Magnitogorsk. Complete player biography and stats.
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Edstrom is a good option if available(I don`t he will). He is a big center with good skating to play physical\interior role.
David Edstrom - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of David Edstrom, 2005-02-18 Göteborg, SWE Sweden. Most recently in the SHL with Frölunda HC. Complete player biography and stats.
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@Xirik mentioned a couple of goalies. Hrabel and Gajan could be available, Gajan said that Devils were interested in him. I believe Hrabal could be avaiable and Gaian could be as option for later round.
Michael Hrabal - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Michael Hrabal, 2005-01-20 Praha, CZE Czechia. Most recently in the NCAA with Univ. of Massachusetts. Complete player biography and stats.
www.eliteprospects.com
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Adam Gajan - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Adam Gajan, 2004-05-06 Poprad, SVK Slovakia. Most recently in the NCAA with Univ. of Minnesota-Duluth. Complete player biography and stats.
www.eliteprospects.com
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More campus vibe than anything. Wasn't really my style and I just didn't really get the same feeling I got at a couple of other schools that I liked a little more. Wasn't really sure what it was in particular, but just couldn't really see myself there. No disrespect to the school, it is a great place, just not for me.
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Since Bob McKenzie’s final rankings came out this morning (96 plus 14 HM) I added his rankings to all the players you listed.
And to this too. You nailed the range perfectly with these forwards on Bob’s list, though the real draft order will obviously start to stray more from his list after the middle of the first round.
Intrigue and excitement in the Year of Connor Bedard at the NHL Draft | TSN
The 2023 NHL Draft is about so much more than just the phenom who will go first overall to the Chicago Blackhawks in Nashville, Bob McKenzie writes. Scouts are very enthused about the depth of this year’s class.
www.tsn.ca
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We should talk about pure potential mostly on my taste.
And there are some rumours Florida interesting in Karpovich as potential pick in the second round. I understand their interest.
Daniil Karpovich - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Daniil Karpovich, 2004-12-06 Minsk, BLR Belarus. Most recently in the VHL with Gornyak-UGMK. Complete player biography and stats.
Big mobile defenseman with upside on both sides. (NR)
Perron is an interesting option as high risk high reward option. He is on the small side and could drop because of it. (#58)
Jayden Perron - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Jayden Perron, 2005-01-11 Winnipeg, MB, CAN Canada. Most recently in the NCAA with Univ. of North Dakota. Complete player biography and stats.
I don`t think that Stramel will fall so low, but his lack of consistency and lack of production could scare some gms. Anyway he is and mobile twoway center. (#34)
Charlie Stramel - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Charlie Stramel, 2004-10-15 Rosemount, MN, USA USA. Most recently in the NCAA with Michigan State Univ.. Complete player biography and stats.
Like @Xirik mentioned, Suniev is interesting for 2-3 round. He is big and have speed and puckhandling abuility. Need to work more on his skating, but again - he isn`t slow. And he has very good hands. Some kind of.. Nolan Foote may be. Not as physical(he can teach), but faster(it`s harder to teach). (#66)
Aydar Suniev - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Aydar Suniev, 2004-11-16 Kazan, RUS Russia. Most recently in the NCAA with Univ. of Massachusetts. Complete player biography and stats.
@evnted mentioned sawchyn (#49)
Gracyn Sawchyn at eliteprospects.com
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Gracyn Sawchyn, 2005-01-19 Grande Prairie, AB, CAN Canada. Most recently in the WHL with Edmonton Oil Kings. Complete player biography and stats.
I believe I cant say more than evnted. He could be very good option if available.
Defenseman like Morin could be available, because of combo of mobility and puck skills with normal size, but I don`t like his defensive game. (#46)
Strbak is good defensive defenseman with good puck work. Would be great if he can work on his skating more. As 2-3 round pick I`m ok with. (#33)
Maxim Strbak - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Maxim Strbak, 2005-04-13 Kosice, SVK Slovakia. Most recently in the NCAA with Michigan State Univ.. Complete player biography and stats.
Kantserov is intriguing player as potential scoring cube. He is undersized 5`9, but his shot is deadly. And he is good in finding open space in the right time. He is good high risk high reward option for the third round. (#69, nice)
Roman Kantserov - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Roman Kantserov, 2004-09-20 Magnitogorsk, RUS Russia. Most recently in the KHL with Metallurg Magnitogorsk. Complete player biography and stats.
Edstrom is a good option if available(I don`t he will). He is a big center with good skating to play physical\interior role. (#37)
David Edstrom - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of David Edstrom, 2005-02-18 Göteborg, SWE Sweden. Most recently in the SHL with Frölunda HC. Complete player biography and stats.
@Xirik mentioned a couple of goalies. Hrabel (#39) and Gajan (#60) could be available, Gajan said that Devils were interested in him. I believe Hrabal could be avaiable and Gaian could be as option for later round.
Michael Hrabal - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Michael Hrabal, 2005-01-20 Praha, CZE Czechia. Most recently in the NCAA with Univ. of Massachusetts. Complete player biography and stats.Both are goalies with good size and good international play.Adam Gajan - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Adam Gajan, 2004-05-06 Poprad, SVK Slovakia. Most recently in the NCAA with Univ. of Minnesota-Duluth. Complete player biography and stats.
Everyone gets Bob McKenzie’d! (Even though ya threw me with by starting off with an unranked fella.)
Intrigue and excitement in the Year of Connor Bedard at the NHL Draft | TSN
The 2023 NHL Draft is about so much more than just the phenom who will go first overall to the Chicago Blackhawks in Nashville, Bob McKenzie writes. Scouts are very enthused about the depth of this year’s class.
www.tsn.ca
Guadana
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Is it… negative sarcasm? Like “I can read McKenzie too without your posts!”Everyone gets Bob McKenzie’d! (Even though ya threw me with by starting off with an unranked fella.)
Intrigue and excitement in the Year of Connor Bedard at the NHL Draft | TSN
The 2023 NHL Draft is about so much more than just the phenom who will go first overall to the Chicago Blackhawks in Nashville, Bob McKenzie writes. Scouts are very enthused about the depth of this year’s class.
When you started to being passive aggressive?
Communication through text is a wonderful thing. even completely harmless messages can be interpreted in a completely different way.
I see you like Kantserov too.
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I don’t actually know what this means. No, it wasn’t sarcasm.
I just looked up where these players were ranked on his list and then added them for context to the recent posts about players who might be available around our pick.
You can read MacKenzie’s article too but the numbers are actually for everyone to see, I assume most people aren’t going to look them up. (I don’t know how many people care but.*shrug*)
Guadana
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See, it was a joke from my side. ironic one.
I would add Wahlberg (was mentioned by xirik too), #40 in McKenzie list.
He is good big two way forward with good shot. He looked interesting on international level where I saw him.
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Anton Wahlberg - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Anton Wahlberg, 2005-07-04 Malmö, SWE Sweden. Most recently in the AHL with Rochester Americans. Complete player biography and stats.
www.eliteprospects.com
Just did my keeper league draft (27 teams x 3 rounds). Knowing it's a terrible year for D, I ended up using three of my four picks on blue liners.
David Conte would be proud.
Just did my keeper league draft (27 teams x 3 rounds). Knowing it's a terrible year for D, I ended up using three of my four picks on blue liners.
glenwo2
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Hugho Hell's music theme when he's on the ice :the new "Miroslav SATAN" player who we want on the team just 'cause of his name.
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Just did my keeper league draft (27 teams x 3 rounds). Knowing it's a terrible year for D, I ended up using three of my four picks on blue liners.
Whatcha get?
Started the draft with #20, #47, #57, #75, and #79. Figured I'd have to decide between one of the second tier forwards or take a home run swing on Michael Hrabal.
Axel Sandin-Pellikka started to drop and I offered 20+57 to move up to a few teams before finding a taker at 17. Hopefully he develops better than Adam Boqvist.
At 47, I took a swing on RW Jayden Perron instead of another D Tanner Molendyk or a goalie project like Adam Gajan. Since goalies are worth a bit too much in our league, Carson Bjarnason and Trey Augustine were long gone.
At 75 I grabbed LD Caden Price. August birthday playing at Kelowna, so maybe a vague similarity to Damon Severson.
At 79 I took LD Andrew Strathmann as a bit of an inside joke since that's the same name as one of my favorite beer league teammates. He'll join Perron at North Dakota eventually.
After running Draft Simulator dozens of times with Bob McKenzie latest draft rankings I'm thinking were going to be pretty happy with who we get with our 2nd round pick.
Every time I see a team pick a Defenseman before our pick i'll be cheering loudly.
Every time I see a team pick a Defenseman before our pick i'll be cheering loudly.
If you run it enough times does NJ end up with Bedard?After running Draft Simulator dozens of times with Bob McKenzie latest draft rankings I'm thinking were going to be pretty happy with who we get with our 2nd round pick.
Every time I see a team pick a Defenseman before our pick i'll be cheering loudly.
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I'm going to try to read up on this draft the next few days before Thursday. It's a bit harder to get hyped for it without having the usual top 10 1st Round pick but I'm excited to see what we do. Our scouts have been good in the later rounds latley and that's where they ultimately earn a payday. I'm sure we will have an opportunity to draft someone who fell in the rankings or even possibly an overager that teams pass up on. The system really needs more Centers and Wingers with size. I like the old philosophy of taking 1 goalie every draft year. I would think using the 3rd or 4th round pick on one would be ideal. Daws , Brennan , Malek and Brady in the pipeline isn't terrible. I think Brennan will be one to look out for the next 2 to 3 years. Adding another one to the list would be a good idea , you all know how unpredictable drafting goalies is.
We have Calgary's 3rd round pick this year which is 10 spots higher than ours would have been. Maybe that can be huge when it's all said and done. Gonna be an interesting draft as usual which is why it's always one of my favorite days of the hockey year.
We have Calgary's 3rd round pick this year which is 10 spots higher than ours would have been. Maybe that can be huge when it's all said and done. Gonna be an interesting draft as usual which is why it's always one of my favorite days of the hockey year.
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Unless picks are traded I still think NJ takes Dionicio with pick 80. He should normally still be there at 80 but most likely won't be at 122. The organization would probably have to really dislike the player in order not to take the hometown kid. You only get so many of those in Newark.
Forge
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I never understand why people are so into getting hometown players on the team
There are actual conspiracy theories about the paucity of LSU players on the Saints. People are strange when you're a stranger. Faces seem ugly when you're alone.
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You don't think it helps when negociating contracts? What Calgary is going through the last few years...you don't think it could have helped if those players had local ties? Why do you think the Maple Leafs keep on signing FA's to teamfriendly deals? Correct...because they're all from the area.
If you wanna win cups, you need a few players on teamfriendly deals. Of course you can be lucky and get other players to sign such deals but it's always better to have players who absolutely wanna play for your team than players you have to convince to do so.
Besides, it also makes for a great marketing story.
Forge
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Not really. I mean, some players maybe would take discounts , but I doubt they all would. Just because you're from an area doesn't mean you like it or that it's your favorite place or something lol. And I certainly wouldn't be making those type of decisions for like a random third round pick or something.
Getting guys at the tail end of their careers to sign team friendly deals is one thing, but the important Toronto guys didn't exactly take team friendly deals. And getting guys at the tail end of their career to sign free agent deals can be done just as easily if you're a cup contender.
Draft the best players. I don't want to draft a guy just because he's from the area. I don't want to trade for a guy or sign a guy just because he's from the area.
And I don't mean any disrespect to to Winnipeg and Calgary as I am sure that there are people who love to live there, but living in the Jersey suburbs just a stones throw from going to NYC isn't exactly the same thing, imo.
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Makes it far more likely.
You don't even have to like the area...having family in the area is a bonus already for many players. Every year, players decide not to renew contracts in order to sign elsewhere to be closer to family.
We're talking about a 3rd round pick. 3rd rounders are unlikely to ever become NHL regulars. At this point you no longer necessarily draft the best players....you might as well draft the players with the highest upside and Dionicio is certainly not lacking upside.
Forge
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For some people yes, for others no. I Mean, Marner is from Markham and straight smashed Toronto in negotiations.
Every year players make decisions to not renew contracts for a myriad of reasons. Money, tax situations, family, cup contention windows, etc. If a player wants to make that move I'm more than happy to listen. But I'm not basing any sort of my team building philosophy around it, that's for sure. I find it to have no real value until I find out in that specific situation that it has value. Then I want to leverage the hell out of it.
And I really don't care where a prospect is from since for most players in general, I don't want their later years. I want the early ones. If he's at the top of your board when you pick, fine, take him. But if he's not, I can't support taking him just because he's from the area on a theory that he may take less down the line or wants to play there long term. I'm not putting an emphasis on drafting him just because he's from the area or feel like I have to get him. Just take the guy that you think has the best shot of being an NHLer or a good NHLer. Being worried about the value of where they are from is putting the cart waaaaaaay before the horse in my opinion.
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Easier to take people from around the world and slowly make them change into angry NJ people.
Doesn't take a lot of time. Just long enough to get a driver's license.Easier to take people from around the world and slowly make them change into angry NJ people.
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