HF Habs: 2023 NHL Draft part 2

[SlafySZN]

I have doubts that he will produce like Tkachuk. Hell, I'd be over the moon with a Nichuskin (on the Avs) like production.

So Leonard potentially over Michkov? It goes against taking "the most talented player".

Yeah but it’s in a scenario where they pass on Michkov for the reasons we’ve been talking about.

 

[Kennerback]

Ryan Leonard will never be an all star, same with Slaf. Solid players sure, but nothing special and neither ever over 60 points.

Slaf is just huge. He’ll be trouble for Ds even if he goes bellow expectations. Not so sure for Leonard if the offense doesn’t pan out. Bowling over NHL Ds a half-foot bigger is not a given for him.

 

[SlafySZN]

Slaf is just huge. He’ll be trouble for Ds even if he goes bellow expectations. Not so sure for Leonard if the offense doesn’t pan out. Bowling over NHL Ds a half-foot bigger is not a given for him.

Leonard is build strong.

6’ 192 lbs at 18 is not small in my book

 

[Kennerback]

Leonard is build strong.

6’ 192 lbs at 18 is not small in my book

It’s on the small side for a power-forward.

 

[SnapVirus]

Leonard will be like Jamie Benn. And thats good.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

I like Leonard but slot of people seem to think he’s 6’3” when he’s actually 5’11”.

 

[phillytennis]

I can't see Montreal doing that. It sounds like San Jose will select Michkov anyway.

People really need to stop agonizing over this. Michkov is part of the big 4. We're #5.

We missed getting into the Franchise player slot - per usual.

That's means, it's Smith, Leonard or Reinbacher for #5.

If San Jose picks Michkov...LE CLUB DE HOCKEY des CANADIENS de MONTRÉAL choisissent WILL SMITH!! ..That's it!! That's all!!!

 

[le_sean]

I don’t think anyone wants to take Leonard over Smith.

Leonard enters the discussion if Smith isn’t on the board at 5.

I’d take Leonard over Smith. He has far less question marks. Don’t really care for average skaters who don’t bother competing. High skill level or not.

I like Leonard but slot of people seem to think he’s 6’3” when he’s actually 5’11”.

And Marchand is 5’9. As long as you know how and when to be physical, it doesn’t matter. Not everyone is as stupid as Gallagher.

Leonard is like a really skilled and smarter Lehkonen. That’s an absurd player to have.

 

[SlafySZN]

If San Jose picks Michkov...LE CLUB DE HOCKEY des CANADIENS de MONTRÉAL choisissent WILL SMITH!! ..That's it!! That's all!!!

So ready for the Will Smith jokes for the next 15 years

 

[phillytennis]

I’d take Leonard over Smith. He has far less question marks. Don’t really care for average skaters who don’t bother competing. High skill level or not.


And Marchand is 5’9. As long as you know how and when to be physical, it doesn’t matter. Not everyone is as stupid as Gallagher.

Leonard is like a really skilled and smarter Lehkonen. That’s an absurd player to have.

If you are looking for high end offensive talent...Smith's the guy...just pick him!!!

 

[NotProkofievian]

f*** Will Smith. All my homies hate Will Smith.

 

[SlafySZN]

f*** Will Smith. All my homies hate Will Smith.

Habs fans generally hates talent, yes.

We haven’t seen offensive talent for so long that some has their brain programmed to not want it.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

f*** Will Smith. All my homies hate Will Smith.

True he's definitely overrated. But fresh prince was a classic

 

[Doublechin]

Watching the playoffs once again, I can't fault gms for going with less skill if they identify heart and physical aspect in players, if someone identifies Smith as pure skill but a potential floater, they might go for a Leonard here

Also, saying we took the Tkachuk pick by drafting Slafkovsky is cute.

70 point player with heart and grit>80 point player that floats and dissapears when the game gets intense

 

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My apologies if it was posted already.

His current coach wants him to emulate Martin saint Louis.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Might be your last chance to see Benson before the draft tonight.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

If they truly want Reinbacher, they should trade down with Detroit.
To Detroit...picks...5th + 133rd
To Montréal....picks...9th +19th +43rd

Too far.

Habs might be able to drop to 7th and still get Reinbacher.

 

[SlafySZN]

Kent was pretty happy that they didn’t drop 1 or 2 spots after the lottery so it means they have a tier of players in that range they really like.

I don’t see them trade down at all. Only way they trade it is to go up.

 

[Michoulicious]

Michkov is head and shoulder above anybody but Bedard in this draft.

There is not much difference between Carlsson, Smith and Fantilli IMO.

If somehow you want Reinbacher and you have the #5 pick, you HAVE TO TRADE DOWN.

No matter who's there at #5, there is a team in the top 10 that will pay to pick one of the big 5.

If Michkov is available at #5 and we don't pick him (pick someone else or trade down), I'll be very very mad.

If Michkov is gone and it's one of Carlsson/Smith and we don't pick him, I'll be ok as long as we traded down. If we pick someone else instead of trading down, I'll be kind of mad, but less than if we pass on Michkov.

 

[Goldenhands]

Habs fans generally hates talent, yes.

We haven’t seen offensive talent for so long that some has their brain programmed to not want it.

Some people confuse talent with flashiness, kids like Dvorsky, Leonard or Benson have alot of talent as well, with a grit factor to their game. The physical side of the game is very important when you climb up the levels, you need to win puck battles, so is your 200 ft work. There is no issue in that regard with those kids, what cant be said about Smith.

Smith's concerns are legit and you have to factor how his offensive numbers got inflated by the quality of his linemates and his 1-way commitment.

There is not much difference between Carlsson, Smith and Fantilli IMO.

There is a huge gap in term of strength/power and 2-way commitment, not even close.

 

[Michoulicious]

Some people confuse talent with flashyness, kids like Dvorsky, Leonard or Benson have alot of talent as well, with a grit factor to their game. The physical side of the game is very important when you climb up the levels, you need to win puck battles, so is your 200 ft work. There is no issue in that regard with those kids, what cant be said about Smith.

Smith's concerns are legit and you have to factor how his offensive numbers got inflated by the quality of his linemates and his 1-way commitment.


There is a huge gap in term of strength/power and 2-way commitment, not even close.

I disagree, and scouts on Bob McKenzie's list too. They have Smith over Carlsson. Smith has a better offensive potential also IMO.

Defensive play can be learned. Offensive talent less so. Both are prospect of similar strenght at this stage of their development IMO. Biggest difference is size.

 

[McGees]

Michkov not going to combine is another reason I think he slips out of top 5

 

[HuGo Sham]

Where's all the Reinbacher noise coming from?
I get he's a very good prospect, but is he BPA?
With Mailloux and hutson in the system and all the young D
already in the NHL, wouldn't it make sense for habs to go for that elite forward?
Unless something is cooking and they trade down, thinking they get Reinbacher while also getting a good F at say 9 (detroit)..
Hughes might also have the dubois trade lined up which addresses
the top 6.
so many variables

 

[SlafySZN]

Some people confuse talent with flashyness, kids like Dvorsky, Leonard or Benson have alot of talent as well, with a grit factor to their game. The physical side of the game is very important when you climb up the levels, you need to win puck battles, so is your 200 ft work. There is no issue in that regard with those kids, what cant be said about Smith.

Smith's concerns are legit and you have to factor how his offensive numbers got inflated by the quality of his linemates and his 1-way commitment.


There is a huge gap in term of strength/power and 2-way commitment, not even close.

I mostly agree but i think you should have different type of players on your team that are able to complete each other. We don’t have a Smith. Slafkovsky could be a perfect player to play with him.

Smith, Leonard and Perreault complete each other well, they make a well balanced line but it’s not like it would be so hard to find guys that are able to play with Smith at the NHL level. You find those players easier than a Smith level talent if it makes sense.

That said, if for some reason we end up with Leonard i’m gonna be very happy also. He has way more skills and potential than some think.

 

[SlafySZN]

Where's all the Reinbacher noise coming from?
I get he's a very good prospect, but is he BPA?
With Mailloux and hutson in the system and all the young D
already in the NHL, wouldn't it make sense for habs to go for that elite forward?
Unless something is cooking and they trade down, thinking they get Reinbacher while also getting a good F at say 9 (detroit)..
Hughes might also have the dubois trade lined up which addresses
the top 6.
so many variables

Some TVA journalist said the habs liked him and had a close eye on him during the year.

But it’s not very surprising, they probably looked at many players during the year that they thought could go around 6-10 in the draft or a little later since they didn’t know where they would draft exactly.