HF Habs: 2023 NHL Draft part 2

[NotProkofievian]

Yes

 

[WeThreeKings]

Lets go toe to toe on Bird Law and see who comes out the victor.

 

[Vachon23]

My draft with Bob list

 

[HuGort]

Dvorsky's defensive acumen has been blown way out of proportion.

Just because he's strong and in good position most of the time doesn't mean he's a Selke caliber talent. See Tavares, Horvat.

Go read any scouting report of D-1 Dvorsky and his defensive game is always noted as something he needed to improve. And while he has, he certainly hasn't gone from a minus defender to an elite level one.

This year he had the 3rd worst +/- in the entire Allsvenskan (worst pace in the entire league had he played as many games as those below him) and worst on his playoff team (finished 10th/14). Then was healthy scratched in the playoffs. I'll tell you one thing, 6'1 200 lbs high-end defensive players do not get benched in the playoffs. If anything their role grows; coaches love that type of player.

The people who think he's the next Danault with high level scoring are in for a rude awakening IMO.

He has the ability to grow into a plus NHL defender, but even in comparison to his peers, is neither as good defensively as Moore or Danielson right now nor has the defensive upside of Moore or Yager long-term.

It was only McCagg who is that high on Dvorsky

 

[Naslund]

Is it though?

Caufield still has the worst +/- stats on the team, with Drouin. Can't have a team of players like that and expect to win anything.

 

[Habs Icing]

The writing is on the wall.

Yeah but it's in Swahili and how many of us speak Swahili?

 

[Lockin17]

Reinbacher now as the best quote to be drafted by the Habs

 

[Expos94]

Hey not Bergevin fault, Pronger has never bring him his cofee

I think Hugo are considering Michkov, if hes there i got a good feeling, but hey at least, Leonard could scores a lot of goals with Dach

Leonard is not a bad pick. Heart with skill is a great combination

 

[kudla]

If Montreal picks Michkov, they will finally have a great draft pick. He is the second best player in this draft

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Drouin.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Caufield still has the worst +/- stats on the team, with Drouin. Can't have a team of players like that and expect to win anything.

True, Caufield can't win faceoffs, nor can he fight.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

If Montreal picks Michkov, they will finally have a great draft pick. He is the second best player in this draft

IMO if he’s available at 5 and all of the other big 4 are gone, you need to try to capitalize on trading down to a team that wants Michkov or you simply pick him.

The talent gap between Michkov and Leonard/Reinbacher/Benson is substantial and an asset should be required to bridge the gap and associated risk of passing on him.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Drouin.

Drouin sucks offensively, though? If he were awesome offensively, that'd be a totally different story.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Reinbacher now as the best quote to be drafted by the Habs

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Slafkovsky had Dvorsky level odds at this point last year.

IMO if he’s available at 5 and all of the other big 4 are gone, you need to try to capitalize on trading down to a team that wants Michkov or you simply pick him.

The talent gap between Michkov and Leonard/Reinbacher/Benson is substantial and an asset should be required to bridge the gap and associated risk of passing on him.

No team is trading up for Michkov. That has been beaten to death by anyone covering the draft or combine. If a team moves up with Montreal, it would be to secure Reinbacher ahead of Arizona.

Whether people want to accept it or not, teams are concerned about a variety of things on the Michkov dossier and not only are they concerned with using a top 10 pick on the player, they aren't going to spend additional assets to assume that risk.

 

[ReHabs]

Drouin.

Drouin is not very good at anything especially not offence, where is awful at even strength and non-physical and inconsistent.

As a prospect we have to admit he seemed more promising, sure.

 

[Doublechin]

Reinbacher now as the best quote to be drafted by the Habs

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Literally the only thing that they can do that would make me turn off the TV on draft day

There's a clear indication that there's high odds of him being available at 8 or so, trade down, don't waste the pick without gaining assets

 

[WeThreeKings]

Literally the only thing that they can do that would make me turn off the TV on draft day

There's a clear indication that there's high odds of him being available at 8 or so, trade down, don't waste the pick without gaining assets

He's not getting passed Arizona.

 

[Wats]

Reinbacher now as the best quote to be drafted by the Habs

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Put money on Dvorsky, Reinbacher, and Leonard when it was Smith/Michkov as the favourites. At least I'm guaranteed to make some money or get Michkov/Smith.

Is Michkov getting compared to Drouin? Feel like Drou has a bit of Galchenyuk syndrome where his hockey sense is too weak to maximize his tools. Michkov's scouting reports seems to emphasize his hockey sense/smarts.

 

[SnapVirus]

He's not getting passed Arizona.

Arizona is picking Leonard before Reinbacher 100x outta 100.

With Keller and Cooley they needs powerforward much more than D

 

[mbz]

Reinbacher now as the best quote to be drafted by the Habs

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Michkov has the best odds on bet365.

 

[SwiftyHab]

Let’s go toe to toe on Bird Law and see who comes out the victor.

You besmirched my honour sir. I demand satisfaction!

Arizona is picking Leonard before Reinbacher 100x outta 100.

With Keller and Cooley they needs powerforward much more than D

Is it a real thing to have a power forward under 6’?
Who else fits that profile?

 

[SnapVirus]

You besmirched my honour sir. I demand satisfaction!


Is it a real thing to have a power forward under 6’?
Who else fits that profile?

There is tonnnn of smaller forwards who play big games. Marchand, Gallagher, Kunitz, shaw, etc. And those are 5’8-5’9 with heels.

Leonard is 5’11,75 at 18 years old. Thats 6’ in NHL terms. Tkachuk had one inch on him at 6’1 when he was drafted and now he is 6’2. If Leonard gain a single inch he’ll be 6’1.

 

[McGees]

Talent is more than just offense.

Josh ho-sang disagrees.

 

[waitin425]

Michkov has the best odds on bet365.View attachment 720386

That Leo pick is sneaky. There is definitely a path to that.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I'm desperately trying to will Carlsson at #5 into existence.