HF Habs: 2023 NHL Draft part 2

[Mrb1p]

Ya kind of makes an argument against Reinbacher… guys like Reinbacher are fairly easy to find. With a 5th pick you want to get a guy who’s rare.

I mean, Michkov is special and should be a slam dunk 2nd OA. But you find Reinbachers in the 2nd round about as often as you find Ahos.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

I mean, Michkov is special and should be a slam dunk 2nd OA. But you find Reinbachers in the 2nd round about as often as you find Ahos.

Not saying 2nd, but Reinbachers are found mid first all the time. We got Guhle there for example

 

[SOLR]

My god... Breathe...

What happened this year?

The wild isn't very deep at all, I'm even surprised they are in the playoffs. This isn't a contender.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

You can’t draft guys based on partnerships. Things change so much from year to year. It’s how you end up with Jarred Tinordi.

Hutson will join the team in a year. You’d likely want a veteran to be with him for 1-2. You’re looking at 3-4 years down the road.

Not drafting guys for partnership is my side of the argument here

 

[SOLR]

Not saying 2nd, but Reinbachers are found mid first all the time. We got Guhle there for example

I think you are discounting this a bit too much. Even if you have a 15 overall pick, you'll hit once every 2-3 shot on that level of talent.

 

[The Great Weal]

My god... Breathe...

What happened this year?

Matthew Tkachuk should be traded for a 7th rounder, he sucked major balls in the playoffs before this year and it’s clearly an outlier. Am I doing this right?

 

[le_sean]

Not drafting guys for partnership is my side of the argument here

But Reinbacher shouldn’t be seen as such. He’s the type where we will want to find a guy to play off of him as opposed to just being a crutch for Hutson.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

There's an abundance of right handed defenseman with size who can skate, transition the puck in the face of pressure, support the offense with a heavy shot while also providing high value defensively?

Pronman said there are 25 Reinbachers in the post I quoted.

 

[Belial]

There's an abundance of right handed defenseman with size who can skate, transition the puck in the face of pressure, support the offense with a heavy shot while also providing high value defensively?

Considering the hype about this draft Reinbacher has to be a righthanded Hedman if he goes 5th overall...

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

I think you are discounting this a bit too much. Even if you have a 15 overall pick, you'll hit once every 2-3 shot on that level of talent.

Well I mean that’s true no matter the player.

But Reinbacher shouldn’t be seen as such. He’s the type where we will want to find a guy to play off of him as opposed to just being a crutch for Hutson.

At a certain point you only ice three pairings though. Matheson/Barron was a great pairing for us and won’t be going anywhere. Maybe Guhle/Mailloux ends up a pairing. Plus you’ll have the Hutson pairing and that’s not even counting guys like Xhekaj, Harris, Kovasevic, Engstrom etc

 

[WeThreeKings]

Pronman said there are 25 Reinbachers in the post I quoted.

Yeah he said it but you agreed with it. I don't.

Considering the hype about this draft Reinbacher has to be a righthanded Hedman if he goes 5th overall...

We are picking 5th, we are not picking where the 3 top end talents are.

 

[Kennerback]

I’ve seen enough top-10 highly touted Ds that don’t pan out in the decades that I’ve followed the draft, to say the odds that Reinbacher does look the way that he’s projected to be in the NHL are on the lower side.

 

[SOLR]

Well I mean that’s true no matter the player.

My point is, you can pick a Reinbacher, who is a top 10 pick most years (not this year because of the quality of the top 10) or you can try 3 times at 15-25 overall.

 

[Belial]

Matthew Tkachuk should be traded for a 7th rounder, he sucked major balls in the playoffs before this year and it’s clearly an outlier. Am I doing this right?

Not really as Tkachuk was Tkachuk all the time...

We have eyes and can see who's getting involved in the play when the game gets tough and so on.

 

[The Great Weal]

Not really as Tkachuk was Tkachuk all the time...

We have eyes and can see who's getting involved in the play when the game gets tough and so on.

Nope. Another lie, he was terrible in the playoffs before this year. Not to mention that who cares about toughness when your team fails miserably in the playoffs like Tkachuks tenure in Calgary like how you said right?

Kaprizov came back from injury this year and had 7 goals in 6 games last year when you said he wasn’t getting it done. Stop lying, your arguments are laughably inconsistent and wrong.

 

[McGees]

I think it'll probably go for Dvorsky, people have already written Wright off completely.

He’s a reverse Xhekaj - Wright gave up hockey and now works at a Costco.

 

[Belial]

Nope. Another lie, he was terrible in the playoffs before this year. Not to mention that who cares about toughness when your team fails miserably in the playoffs like Tkachuks tenure in Calgary like how you said right?

Kaprizov came back from injury this year and had 7 goals in 6 games last year when you said he wasn’t getting it done. Stop lying, your arguments are laughably inconsistent and wrong.

My friend, what happened this year then?

You keep praising Kaprizov so much!

A winger just can't make the difference...

 

[Belial]

We are picking 5th, we are not picking where the 3 top end talents are.

Is this supposed to mean you think Reinbacher is the next sliced bread?

 

[WeThreeKings]

Is this supposed to mean you think Reinbacher is the next sliced bread?

I think Reinbacher is a perfectly reasonable selection at 5 if Smith and Carlsson are gone and the team doesn't have the guts/will to wait out the Michkov situation.

I also think Leonard, Benson, Wood and Dvorsky are reasonable selections in that scenario, too.

I disagree with any sentiment that makes Reinbachers potential easy to find, and I disagree with this notion that he would be a bad selection because he's not a flashy puck mover.

I know we all want the franchise ppg forward but beyond the top 5, with the Michkov uncertainty, there's not anyone with that profile. Of course someone will, they usually do, but we can't project that right now.

 

[Kaladin]

I mean that's the reality buddy...

McJesus can't get through 5 players for a highlight real goal in the PO unfortunately

Matthews can't just coast and wait for a pass for an open net anymore...

Pretty sure I've seen highlights of Mcdavid scoring insane goals like that in the playoffs

 

[SlafySZN]

And that my friend, it’s why we won’t draft him. Hughes told him it was the most important thing qhen he coached him and he still doesn’t do it. What do you think Hughes think about that lol.

No chance they pass on him, lol.

You don’t draft a kid 5th for his defensive game but for the elite offense.

 

[Belial]

I think Reinbacher is a perfectly reasonable selection at 5 if Smith and Carlsson are gone and the team doesn't have the guts/will to wait out the Michkov situation.

I also think Leonard, Benson, Wood and Dvorsky are reasonable selections in that scenario, too.

I disagree with any sentiment that makes Reinbachers potential easy to find, and I disagree with this notion that he would be a bad selection because he's not a flashy puck mover.

I know we all want the franchise ppg forward but beyond the top 5, with the Michkov uncertainty, there's not anyone with that profile. Of course someone will, they usually do, but we can't project that right now.

More vague than this you drown)

But I do agree that it's an interesting draft with a lot of options.

I just hope they don't draft a D!

We got Monty in the back! f*** the D!))

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Yeah he said it but you agreed with it. I don't.


We are picking 5th, we are not picking where the 3 top end talents are.

Since you’re a Smith truther, I’m surprised by this statement. Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, Michkov, Smith. That’s 5.

 

[Doublechin]

Higgins looked like he was gonna be a good one. Got into the nose candy though apparently

He was a guy I always say when I went out back then and I used to like 5 times a week, I'd often see lots of players together back then but Higgins would often be alone. He definitely got killed by the city

 

[WeThreeKings]

Since you’re a Smith truther, I’m surprised by this statement. Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, Michkov, Smith. That’s 5.

I really like Smith but there's uncertainty with him compared to the top 3.

Michkov and Smith make it 5, but you gotta actually be willing to take Michkov. I don't think we are. Just my sense and hope I'm wrong if Smith is gone.