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Prospect Info: 2023 NHL Draft (mod warning 1st post)

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Leonardo87 said:
It’s also why Kakko putting up 40 points and Zegras with 65 doesn’t both me either. Two different teams have no bearing on each other.
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If I recall correctly a lot of the rangers boards had zegras high…. A few wanted zegras over kakko, but kakko was the “obvious” choice at their pick

Maybe cause he’s from New York tho?
 
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Zegs2sendhelp said:
I still bring it up to machinehead bern and edjovanovski everytime I cross paths with them
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Over the years I've come to recognize that machinehead is generally smart, but man did he have some raging buyer's remorse with McIlrath over Cam. I couldn't name more than ten posters with singular vendettas against one player off the top of my head but MH and Fowler definitely make that list.
 
After watching several Fantilli and Carlsson highlight reals, they really seem about even in terms of skill level and potential. Both are high skill, strong on their skates and very fast for as big as they are. Both have excellent visinon and stick handling ability. Fantilli has a much better shot. But Carlsson seems to have slightly better hands, more of a 200 foot game and plays with greater poise and patience. I'm still leaning Carlsson but would not be upset with Fantilli at all.
 
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From a pure point perspective, what is more impressive: what Fantili did in the ncaa or what Carlsson did in the SHL?
 
Trojans86 said:
From a pure point perspective, what is more impressive: what Fantili did in the ncaa or what Carlsson did in the SHL?
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They both got top 3 all time for points per game for draft year eligible players in their respective leagues. So I guess it depends if you like the NCAA or SHL better
 
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Kariya 9 said:
After watching several Fantilli and Carlsson highlight reals, they really seem about even in terms of skill level and potential. Both are high skill, strong on their skates and very fast for as big as they are. Both have excellent visinon and stick handling ability. Fantilli has a much better shot. But Carlsson seems to have slightly better hands, more of a 200 foot game and plays with greater poise and patience. I'm still leaning Carlsson but would not be upset with Fantilli at all.
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Fantilli has better celly’s, so the choice is easy.
 
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Well geez I sure hope we can get a defenseman as good as Lane Hutson or Kaiden Guhle in the second round.

Zegs2sendhelp said:
Doesn’t fantilli have a lil edge to his game… idk that carlsson has that
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Looks to me like he doesn't shy away from contact and occasionally throws the body himself, but admittedly, of the footage I watched he was being a bit soft at the WJCs. I wasn't focusing on him back then. But I'd say it's fair to say Fantilli is more proactive in throwing the body and engaging in board battles.
 
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I'd be fine with either honestly.

Fantilli seems to have a bigger personality in general and more physicality. But let's be real, either of these guys is likely going to be the best player on our team. They're both big, skilled, and hard to get off the puck.

I'd probably prefer Fantilli just because he seems to have more of a nose for the goal already, and Terry/Zegras aren't really pure scorers. I honestly don't see Zegras sticking at center in the long run after this draft anyways, and maybe being pulled from center responsibilities can let him focus more on offense. He'll probably end up top line wing with Fantilli/Carlsson in a couple years, with McTavish/Terry anchoring the second line and Strome at 3C.
 
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Zegs2sendhelp said:
Doesn’t fantilli have a lil edge to his game… idk that carlsson has that
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I would say you can count on Fantilli to get a little more greasy in terms of after the whistle type stuff as well as being more willing to throw the body during play.

Carlsson uses his body to his advantage during play, but he isn't throwing the body around like Getzlaf for example. And as far as I know he isn't very feisty.
 
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Dr Johnny Fever said:
Anybody know when McKenzie's final list will be out? I always find it interesting to see where a consensus of NHL scouts rate these guys compared to some of the other "scouts".
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Came out 28th June last year so hopefully around the same time this year.
 
Hockey Duckie said:


A very interesting perspective on things. This guy also has the same thought, you don't take a risk on Michkov with the first three picks of the draft.
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Incredibly important video that highlights the significant ramifications on all Russian players going forward. Not sure I agree that it is as bad as he thinks it is but it sure isn't a good situation. It really is a shame we aren't allowed to discuss the issue more fully on these boards. Thanks for posting.
 
Hockey Duckie said:


A very interesting perspective on things. This guy also has the same thought, you don't take a risk on Michkov with the first three picks of the draft.
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I still think that at some point Michkov will play in the NHL, and IIHF will bend backwards as soon as they can (I'm not a fan of them).
But this guy raises many great points with the reasoning behind them. I never really considered Michkov for us and I hope we don't pick him, same with other Russians. The situation is what it is.

PS
At 26:00 he mentions Mintyukov
 
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Reveille1984 said:
I'd be fine with either honestly.

Fantilli seems to have a bigger personality in general and more physicality. But let's be real, either of these guys is likely going to be the best player on our team. They're both big, skilled, and hard to get off the puck.

I'd probably prefer Fantilli just because he seems to have more of a nose for the goal already, and Terry/Zegras aren't really pure scorers. I honestly don't see Zegras sticking at center in the long run after this draft anyways, and maybe being pulled from center responsibilities can let him focus more on offense. He'll probably end up top line wing with Fantilli/Carlsson in a couple years, with McTavish/Terry anchoring the second line and Strome at 3C.
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What a luxury for us to be even consider moving Zegras to wing while most teams are desperately trying to find a young scoring center that they can build around.
 
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ohcomeonref said:
He was a poor man's #1 with the Ducks imo. A proper #1 typically brings a lot more offense than he ever did with the Ducks.

/Flame suit activated
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One of the things I’ll be most curious about heading into next year, aside from Ducks stuff, is whether Hampus can put up similar numbers again.
 
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