Prospect Info: 2023 NHL Draft (mod warning 1st post)

[Anaheim4ever]

Yeah i know its early but 2022 draft discussion started pretty quickly too last year.
So far its #1 Bedard and #2 Mitchkov but after that what are players you are interested in for the Ducks ?
I don't see Bedard falling like Wright did at all. Who will be this years Slaf and Cooley ?

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[tomd]

I truly hope Verbeek is obsessed with getting as many picks in the top 2 rounds as possible. This draft is just bonkers. Klingberg will be a good start towards getting there.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Musty has undeniable talent (first overall pick in the OHL) but in his rookie year, questions started to crop up regarding his IQ. Will be very interested to see how he develops over his draft season.

 

[Gliff]

Looking at the current Ducks roster and what trades we may make at the deadline, it isn't unreasonable to assume the Ducks could add atleast another 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for Klingberg, Stolarz, and Shatty.

That would be 9 picks in the first 3 rounds, including a probably top 10 pick with the Ducks pick. That is basically the minimum also. That isn't taking into account any stuff like taking cap dumps or long shots like trading Gibson. And this is the draft to

This draft will be huge for building the franchise.

 

[tomd]

Looking at the current Ducks roster and what trades we may make at the deadline, it isn't unreasonable to assume the Ducks could add atleast another 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for Klingberg, Stolarz, and Shatty.

That would be 9 picks in the first 3 rounds, including a probably top 10 pick with the Ducks pick. That is basically the minimum also. That isn't taking into account any stuff like taking cap dumps or long shots like trading Gibson. And this is the draft to

This draft will be huge for building the franchise.

Grant could probably get a 3rd or 4th as well.

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

I don’t think this team ‘lacks talent’ to bottom out towards the top 5 in picks.

 

[TopShelfWaterBottle]

Ya I see us in the 12-17 range

 

[AngelDuck]

Ya I see us in the 12-17 range

I will bet you they pick top 10 again

 

[lwvs84]

I will bet you they pick top 10 again

I see the Sharks as the only team that finished better than us to probably fall below next season. Detroit, Ottawa,Buffalo, and New Jersey should pass us (granted, we've said that about some of those teams for years). Seattle might be on the same level, maybe one surprise team bottoms out. My guess is we pick in the 6-8 range. Hopefully that's all in a good tier of players.

 

[Kalv]

Looking at the current Ducks roster and what trades we may make at the deadline, it isn't unreasonable to assume the Ducks could add atleast another 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for Klingberg, Stolarz, and Shatty.

That would be 9 picks in the first 3 rounds, including a probably top 10 pick with the Ducks pick. That is basically the minimum also. That isn't taking into account any stuff like taking cap dumps or long shots like trading Gibson. And this is the draft to

This draft will be huge for building the franchise.

Taylor Hall one year deal landed a 2nd for the Sabres. I think many of us are jumping too fast on the "Klingberg will surely get us a 1st" train. He might and should, but he also has some say in it and the market is bonkers.

 

[dracom]

Taylor Hall one year deal landed a 2nd for the Sabres. I think many of us are jumping too fast on the "Klingberg will surely get us a 1st" train. He might and should, but he also has some say in it and the market is bonkers.

Hall was awful for Buffalo though, he had 2 goals and 19 points, -21. kinda shocking he even got a 2nd

 

[Kalv]

Hall was awful for Buffalo though, he had 2 goals and 19 points, -21. kinda shocking he even got a 2nd

Fair point

 

[GunnarStahl]

Fair point

Yeah, on top of being beyond terrible, like near impossibly terrible for one with his talents, he also had a full NMC and only gave Buffalo two or three trade options.

 

[Kalv]

Yeah, on top of being beyond terrible, like near impossibly terrible for one with his talents, he also had a full NMC and only gave Buffalo two or three trade options.

Yeah, that makes sense then that the price was so low, thank you for reminding. Klingberg has a no-trade list of 10 teams. That leaves 22 options, which is decent.

I wonder why they put a full NTC until Jan 31. It is unlikely he could be sent anywhere by then anyway. Just wanted some security so he can showcase himself in the Eakins system, I guess.

 

[tomd]

Yeah, that makes sense then that the price was so low, thank you for reminding. Klingberg has a no-trade list of 10 teams. That leaves 22 options, which is decent.

I wonder why they put a full NTC until Jan 31. It is unlikely he could be sent anywhere by then anyway. Just wanted some security so he can showcase himself in the Eakins system, I guess.

It's actually just until 1/1/23. My cynical side says it is just so that he can avoid as much snow as possible in the winter and give his new wife a chance to get some tan lines!

 

[Gliff]

Ya I see us in the 12-17 range

I would be shocked if they were outside of the top 10. They were the worst team in the NHL after trading the guys last season.

-Lindholm
-Manson
-Rakell
-Getzlaf
-Des

+Strome
+Vatrano
+Klingberg

The group added does not make up the gap in what was lost.

Taylor Hall one year deal landed a 2nd for the Sabres. I think many of us are jumping too fast on the "Klingberg will surely get us a 1st" train. He might and should, but he also has some say in it and the market is bonkers.

Full NMC and had a terrible year. Still got a 2nd. Even if Klingberg is decent he should get a 1st. If he has a 50-60 point season he should get a lot more then that. His career average is 55 points.

His last 5 seasons pace:
67 points
57 points
45 points
55 points
52 points

 

[bsu]

I would be shocked if they were outside of the top 10. They were the worst team in the NHL after trading the guys last season.

-Lindholm
-Manson
-Rakell
-Getzlaf
-Des

+Strome
+Vatrano
+Klingberg

The group added does not make up the gap in what was lost.




Full NMC and had a terrible year. Still got a 2nd. Even if Klingberg is decent he should get a 1st. If he has a 50-60 point season he should get a lot more then that. His career average is 55 points.

His last 5 seasons pace:
67 points
57 points
45 points
55 points
52 points

+McTavish I'm sure too but yeah... we drafting top 10 for sure IMO (although there are more moves to be made)

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Vaakanainen too.

Vaak
Strome
Vatrano
Klingberg
A year older for Drysdale, Zegras, Vaak,Terry, McTavish.
Improvements from Drysdale, Zegras, Terry, Vaak and McTavish will help.
If Comtois comes into camp in shape that would be huge too.

Vatrano is replacing Rakell the floater, that should help a lot defensively.

 

[GunnarStahl]

Eduard Sale has a hat trick less than half way into the Czechs game against Germany, he’s a productive winger to keep an eye on this year.

 

[GunnarStahl]

Unprecedented production from him last year in the Czech U20, and sizable frame at 6’1”, yup he’s going on my radar. Plays LW.

 

[GunnarStahl]

 

[GettingYourMoms]

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Unprecedented production from him last year in the Czech U20, and sizable frame at 6’1”, yup he’s going on my radar. Plays LW.

And you did not see Adam Benák, even better!

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I would be shocked if they were outside of the top 10. They were the worst team in the NHL after trading the guys last season.

-Lindholm
-Manson
-Rakell
-Getzlaf
-Des

+Strome
+Vatrano
+Klingberg

The group added does not make up the gap in what was lost.

+McTavish I'm sure too but yeah... we drafting top 10 for sure IMO (although there are more moves to be made)

+Jones... he missed 80 games last year.

Our two-way play for our forward group improved. Klingberg's offense on the PP will definitely help us improve our PP after the TDL. The big question is, "Can we score more than we give up?"

One factor that could improve both our defensive and offensive play is having a healthy Silf. Before Silf fell ill to COVID, he was en fuego. After COVID, he just wasn't the same. Maybe that blood clot was slowly affecting him until it was large enough to be found and he stopped playing.

I still don't think that's enough defense, though. Maybe Klingberg can surprise us, but -28 plus/minus rating on a playoff team screams turnstile.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

+Jones... he missed 80 games last year.

Our two-way play for our forward group improved. Klingberg's offense on the PP will definitely help us improve our PP after the TDL. The big question is, "Can we score more than we give up?"

One factor that could improve both our defensive and offensive play is having a healthy Silf. Before Silf fell ill to COVID, he was en fuego. After COVID, he just wasn't the same. Maybe that blood clot was slowly affecting him until it was large enough to be found and he stopped playing.

I still don't think that's enough defense, though. Maybe Klingberg can surprise us, but -28 plus/minus rating on a playoff team screams turnstile.

It seems like we’re going for run and gun style team…. Our back end is mobile and imo our forward are much better than last year. Defense should really be able to push the play…. If the forwards can sustain puck control/zone time it might not be so bad

the team should at least be fun to watch.

On the plus side the combined +/- of our current rhd last year was -63. And I think shattenkirk on the eye test looked a lot worse than a -9

 

[GunnarStahl]

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

You guys understand that Michkov is not only under contract in Russia until 2026 but also regarded as a star that the local elite wants to clutch onto? It's unclear if he'll ever even play in the NHL.

His buyout number has to be the biggest in history, but he seems a transcendent enough talent to take a gamble on it.