NFL: 2023 NFL season news & notes discussion thread

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Unholy Diver

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Doesn’t mean anything outright but it does show indications how strong a team is in the overall picture. Basically a +3 over another team means they are very close in strength, it’s unpredictable game = don’t bet on that game.

Take the Steelers at 2-1 with a -14 and the Ravens also at 2-1 with a +16. Who do you think is the stronger team even though the record says they are the same? The point differential for the Browns is +41 which to me means they are the dominant and best team in the AFC North. Sometimes overall records (especially early in the season) can lie but point differentials indicate just how good that team truly is.

Or it can indicate that a team might have gotten blown out once or played a weaker schedule than another, after three weeks the sample size is just too small for it to mean anything, surely these teams won't keep up this pace and have point differentials of 300+ pts

The Bills in this instance have played 2 of the 3 lowest scoring teams in the league and lost to one of them and blew out the other two teams, one that is the 3rd lowest scoring and the other who turned the ball over seemingly on every drive

For the AFC North I would still take the Ravens as the best of the 3 and the Browns as the worst, and still expect the Bengals to get things right and the the eventual division winner assuming Burrow isn't banged up and hurt all year


I'm also assuming that the OP as a Bills fan is saying without saying that the Dolphins scored 70 and there is still only a 3 pt difference in the point differential, so taking a silent jab so to speak
 
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Or it can indicate that a team might have gotten blown out once or played a weaker schedule than another, after three weeks the sample size is just too small for it to mean anything, surely these teams won't keep up this pace and have point differentials of 300+ pts

The Bills in this instance have played 2 of the 3 lowest scoring teams in the league and lost to one of them and blew out the other two teams, one that is the 3rd lowest scoring and the other who turned the ball over seemingly on every drive

For the AFC North I would still take the Ravens as the best of the 3 and the Browns as the worst, and still expect the Bengals to get things right and the the eventual division winner assuming Burrow isn't banged up and hurt all year


I'm also assuming that the OP as a Bills fan is saying without saying that the Dolphins scored 70 and there is still only a 3 pt difference in the point differential, so taking a silent jab so to speak
Well the 2007 Patriots were +315 after 16 games and the 1999 Rams almost hit 300, so it is possible especially with 17 games now and how it has become a pass every down league. But your point is taken.

Strength of schedule does factor in but strength of victories mean more when you are trying to predict a win. It’s also true point differentials are more of a betting thing than an actual NFL stat. So, yeah the possible Bills fan was throwing some nonsense out there. If you’re a betting man, stay away from the Bills/Fins game.

My AFC predictions are: Bengals, Browns, Ravens and lastly the Steelers. Steelrs have no business being 2-1 which is why they are a -14 in point differential. Browns have a very good defense, the only thing that is killing them atm is Deshaun is sucking ass. If Watson steps up to just an average QB, then look out, the Browns are making noise.
 

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Is it Soccer now? When did point differential start to mean anything in the NFL
It's a stat I found wild after just 3 weeks in and Miami dropped 70 on someone plus how good Miami offense has been anyone is close let alone the teams go head to head this week. Plus one team has 1 loss. On the surface Miami looks dominant but scratch a little and they score a ton but bleed points. Probably explains Buffalo being favored by 3 and not solely being at home.
 
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Jeeez. Bettis and Rapeyburger with some Mensa like comments.

For the record, when you accuse a team of cheating, make sure you have your facts correct.


The accusation:



The facts:



What a clown
Rapeyburger.
Grow the f*** up
 
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Jeeez. Bettis and Rapeyburger with some Mensa like comments.

For the record, when you accuse a team of cheating, make sure you have your facts correct.


The accusation:



The facts:



What a clown

Oh god.

No the Patriots kicked the Steelers ass that day because the Steelers wouldn’t shut the f*** up about how they were all high and mighty. Talking all that shit didn’t do them any favours before the game and during the game.

Both can shut up.

Joey Porter crying like a baby back bitch after the lose was salt on the wounds.
 
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ummm this place needs a “eye roll” reaction. I am sure…it’s all about the money.

Just to be clear, Pfizer was found criminally negligent because they were bribing doctors to use their “generics” brands and that happened back in 2009 and as far as I can tell it was only the one time, so much for the “pattern of criminal behavior” claim. What it has to do with vaccinations or Kelce, I am at a loss of words.

Pfizer has a huge HQ in London which is separate from the US based company and there is NO ban on them advertising, so that’s an untruth you are repeating and unclear where you got that info. I assume like most lies, there’s always a shred of truth, there was a ban on all of the drug companies from advertising the CV19 vaccination but it WAS NOT a carpet ban on their products, just the CV19 vaccine. What the FDA guidelines have to do with the rest of the world is misguided.




When did I mention Covid?

Pfizer's history is based on greed. It's no different than the rest of the pharmaceutical industry. Kelce choosing to put money over ethics is far from unique in the sports world. That doesn't make it any less distasteful.

To address your other comments:

I never said there is a ban on them advertising. I said they aren't allowed to advertise their products (prescription medications) to consumers outside of the US. That is true for all pharmaceutical companies. I have no idea what the advertising rules were for C19 vaccinations and I never mentioned them.

Pfizer was criminally fined in 2009 for health care fraud. Largest criminal for anything every in the US. Justice Department Announces Largest Health Care Fraud Settlement in Its History That is just the most public and obvious example due to the severity but it's definitely a pattern. 'Pfizer has been a “habitual offender,” persistently engaging in illegal and corrupt marketing practices, bribing physicians and suppressing adverse trial results.' Tough on Crime? Pfizer and the CIHR

Saudi Arabia, big pharma, Dan Snyder, the list of dirt bags that athletes will take money from is quite long. It's just part of the business, but again, not one that should be applauded.
 
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Oh god.

No the Patriots kicked the Steelers ass that day because the Steelers wouldn’t shut the f*** up about how they were all high and mighty. Talking all that shit didn’t do them any favours before the game and during the game.

Both can shut up.

Joey Porter crying like a baby back bitch after the lose was salt on the wounds.
I don’t really understand bringing it up again after 20 years. I just found it hilarious that Bettis did not get one single fact correct in his accusation, and left off the fact he fumbled the ball on that 4th and 2.
 

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Wonder how long they last (I am going to guess they flame out early next year)

Her album inspired by breakup will probably be huge hit next summer
Tis better to have lived and lost and made a zillion dollars than to have never loved at all. Probably her marketing team told her she could still stand to make inroads with pro football fans.

Really though I wish them all the best. But I won’t be surprised when “Unintentional Grounding” tops the charts.
 
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Even then... its been 18 years since that game... a little late to lob cheating accusations.
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Tis better to have lived and lost and made a zillion dollars than to have never loved at all. Probably her marketing team told her she could still stand to make inroads with pro football fans.

Really though I wish them all the best. But I won’t be surprised when “Unintentional Grounding” tops the charts.
I'm picturing a song call "Travisty"
When pure innocent love gets betrayed by her one true love and falls for some "or a few" IG skanks.
 

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When did I mention Covid?

Pfizer's history is based on greed. It's no different than the rest of the pharmaceutical industry. Kelce choosing to put money over ethics is far from unique in the sports world. That doesn't make it any less distasteful.

To address your other comments:

I never said there is a ban on them advertising. I said they aren't allowed to advertise their products (prescription medications) to consumers outside of the US. That is true for all pharmaceutical companies. I have no idea what the advertising rules were for C19 vaccinations and I never mentioned them.

Pfizer was criminally fined in 2009 for health care fraud. Largest criminal for anything every in the US. Justice Department Announces Largest Health Care Fraud Settlement in Its History That is just the most public and obvious example due to the severity but it's definitely a pattern. 'Pfizer has been a “habitual offender,” persistently engaging in illegal and corrupt marketing practices, bribing physicians and suppressing adverse trial results.' Tough on Crime? Pfizer and the CIHR

Saudi Arabia, big pharma, Dan Snyder, the list of dirt bags that athletes will take money from is quite long. It's just part of the business, but again, not one that should be applauded.
You previously tried to make it seem like Pfizer had been singled out by an advertising ban, but all you really did was take general bans on prescription drug advertising that exist in most countries and try to use that to paint Pfizer as a company whose ads were banned.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is a great example of how people use select facts to spread falsehoods. Glad you somewhat owned up to it in this reply, even if your statement isn’t entirely accurate.
 

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Considering the Bears don't have a single 4,000 YD passer in those 100+ years, it isn't terribly surprising that they don't have any prolific receivers. You would think in all those years they would have at least accidentally found a couple of good QB's

I agree but Its still shocking/kind of embarrassing that in 100 years of football the team record for receiving yards is just over 5000.
 

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Yeah, they had a couple solid WR here and there but they either flamed out or moved on after 3-4 seasons

Muhsin Muhammad said it best, Chicago is where wide receivers careers go to die. But Bears fans don't wanna hear that nonsense, just bring up 1985/46 defense/smash mouth football and they'll be like 'yeah we may suck, but 1985 was such a great year!'
 

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Muhsin Muhammad said it best, Chicago is where wide receivers careers go to die. But Bears fans don't wanna hear that nonsense, just bring up 1985/46 defense/smash mouth football and they'll be like 'yeah we may suck, but 1985 was such a great year!'

It is amazing to see that their leader in receiving yds (Johnny Morris) hasn't caught a pass in 56 years, and leader in catches (Walter Payton) hasn't had one in 36

As a Steeler fan I appreciate smashmouth football as much as the next guy, but that is ridiculous
 
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