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2023 Interesting Potential Waiver Claims

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andora said:
Holmberg is exempt and more likely as 4C or 4RW if he makes it

Kampf is 3C
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Yeah, sure enough he is. No idea why he was on that list then. But in any case, there was no chance he'd be hitting waivers anyway.

Keefe seems to absolutely love him. I guess it also kind of depends where they decide to play Domi. He might be their #3C as well if they go that route.

In any case. I'd love to snipe Holmberg away, but there's no reality in which that's happening. Especially not if he's still exempt. :laugh:
 
biturbo19 said:
Yeah, sure enough he is. No idea why he was on that list then. But in any case, there was no chance he'd be hitting waivers anyway.

Keefe seems to absolutely love him. I guess it also kind of depends where they decide to play Domi. He might be their #3C as well if they go that route.

In any case. I'd love to snipe Holmberg away, but there's no reality in which that's happening. Especially not if he's still exempt. :laugh:
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I would love him too.. i have him as a very likely line 3 contributor within two years

Smart quiet all around player
 
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andora said:
I would love him too.. i have him as a very likely line 3 contributor within two years

Smart quiet all around player
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Exactly the sort of player you wish this Canucks organization could find a way to develop internally, to fill out the bottom-6 for a bargain rate.
 
biturbo19 said:
Exactly the sort of player you wish this Canucks organization could find a way to develop internally, to fill out the bottom-6 for a bargain rate.
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Well we have a couple that look like it already imo

Bains and sasson so far so good
 
The more interesting discussion is whether or not the Canucks will lose somebody to waivers.

I suspect if one or all of Rathbone, Woo, Juulsen, Irwin or Wolanin ends up on waivers they'll be claimed. The NHL bottom-feeders never seem to have enough depth d-men.
 
VanJack said:
The more interesting discussion is whether or not the Canucks will lose somebody to waivers.

I suspect if one or all of Rathbone, Woo, Juulsen, Irwin or Wolanin ends up on waivers they'll be claimed. The NHL bottom-feeders never seem to have enough depth d-men.
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The only one i'd really be worried about at all in that cluster, is Wolanin. It'd be a shame to lose him as basically "found money". Cheap solid depth.

Rathbone...ehhh maybe he's claimed if someone has room for a project. Maybe not. Who cares though? I'd probably want to explore if there's a way to swap him for someone else's fringe guy first, but if you have to waive him and lose him...not gonna shed any tears.

Woo hasn't established himself as an NHL player at all yet. Those kind of guys are tough claims because a team has to commit an NHL roster spot to them without anything to really go on.

Juulsen has cleared waivers how many times now? Maybe you get unlucky and a team has a RHD injury they want to backfill at just the wrong time as you're sliding him through waivers. But otherwise, should clear easily.

Irwin is a 35 going on 36 #8D at best at this point in his career. Not really the sort of guy who tends to be claimed.

Brisebois has such low "upside" i doubt he'd draw much interest as a claim.


I could actually see someone snagging a guy like Studnicka even though he's been thoroughly underwhelming here, and in Boston before that. He's still fairly young, has solid tools, and some track record in the AHL to lean on.
 
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biturbo19 said:
Yeah. Frankly, even if/when he clears, i'd still be working the phones trying to swap him for somebody else's waiver-cleared filler. Someone that might have a tiny bit more utility, or get in the way less. I just don't see any more point to having Rathbone in the system really. He's not going anywhere here.


Ideally would just dump him for a pick, like a 7th rounder in 2030 or something. But i think a swap of fringe contracts is more likely to work for another team.
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I doubt he has an iota of positive value.

He’s 24, his AHL numbers sucked last year, and he’s not even close defensively. He’s a bust.

But yeah, if you could swap him for a similarly zero-value veteran defensive AHL D, I’d be all for it. Not much experience at all down there assuming Wolanin makes the team.
 
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MS said:
I doubt he has an iota of positive value.

He’s 24, his AHL numbers sucked last year, and he’s not even close defensively. He’s a bust.

But yeah, if you could swap him for a similarly zero-value veteran defensive AHL D, I’d be all for it. Not much experience at all down there assuming Wolanin makes the team.
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Yeah. I really think a swap for somebody else's steadier, fringe/journeyman is probably about the best "value" you'd get for him at this point.

But also, like you suggested...probably the biggest part of the "value" in any deal moving Rathbone, is just in freeing up cluttered AHL minutes for other guys who may still be developing. Ideally with a bit of a steadier veteran.

At this point Rathbone is probably at least a dozen deep on the depth chart here, in terms of guys i'd prefer to call up if necessary.

But...for other teams, there might be a little bit of intrigue there. If they're in a position to tinker around with a project like that. He's had a bumpy development and really struggled to make the jump...but a PPG AHL defenceman with high end skating ability is still going to merit at least a second glance for some teams in different situations.

Thinking like...the Reilly Walsh deal for Shane Bowers with the Bruins-Devils. Rathbone at least has NHL level skating and a season of superior production under his belt, as a similar sort of player.


I'll actually be somewhat surprised if something doesn't happen to keep Rathbone from ending up in Abbotsford. Be that waivers claim, a trade swap, or even an affiliate loan or something. It doesn't seem like Rathbone even wants to be here anymore, so...
 
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Vector said:
But he's REALLY tall!
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FYI Blidh is on waivers.

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As I recall, Benning used to be hyperactive trolling the NHL's waiver bargain bin. But I'm having trouble coming up with a single guy claimed off waivers by the Rutherford-Allvin regime.

Of course at the start of training camp, Allvin was quoted as saying they were happy with their organizational depth--which was the reason they didn't sign anyone to a PTO.

So I doubt the Canucks put claim in on anyone. Problem is, you've got to keep them on the big league roster for a certain period of time. And the Canucks have no contract room as it is.
biturbo19 said:
If it were the other Middleton, i'd think about a claim. But Keaton is useless AHL fodder. Pass.
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Canucks Army has a interesting list of right-shot d-men who might end up on waivers. A couple of the more intriguing ones are Connor Timmins in TO an Dylan Coughlan in Carolina.
 
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VanJack said:
As I recall, Benning used to be hyperactive trolling the NHL's waiver bargain bin. But I'm having trouble coming up with a single guy claimed off waivers by the Rutherford-Allvin regime.

Of course at the start of training camp, Allvin was quoted as saying they were happy with their organizational depth--which was the reason they didn't sign anyone to a PTO.

So I doubt the Canucks put claim in on anyone. Problem is, you've got to keep them on the big league roster for a certain period of time. And the Canucks have no contract room as it is.

Canucks Army has a interesting list of right-shot d-men who might end up on waivers. A couple of the more intriguing ones are Connor Timmins in TO an Dylan Coughlan in Carolina.
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I don't think it's so much strictly the number of contracts toward the limit. That's...somewhat tight, but fine. You can always find a way to include a filler contract in a deal or whatever to make something work.

The problem is really more...roster space than contract room. We've got so much edge of roster clutter as it is. Any claim you make, you've gotta weigh against which extra waiver eligible guy you have to expose from our own pool as a result. Whether that claim guy's "upside" is worth more than the organizational familiarity.

ie. If you claim a Defenceman...that basically guarantees Brisebois has to be exposed. I doubt you lose him, but anybody you claim would have to be enough of an upgrade to justify it.

Up front it's the same story. Even with Podkolzin making it a bit easier by illustrating that he belongs in the AHL as an exempt guy, which eases the potential number of NHL bodies a bit. Still basically have to weigh any claim against our own bubble Forwards.
 
VanJack said:
As I recall, Benning used to be hyperactive trolling the NHL's waiver bargain bin. But I'm having trouble coming up with a single guy claimed off waivers by the Rutherford-Allvin regime.

Of course at the start of training camp, Allvin was quoted as saying they were happy with their organizational depth--which was the reason they didn't sign anyone to a PTO.

So I doubt the Canucks put claim in on anyone. Problem is, you've got to keep them on the big league roster for a certain period of time. And the Canucks have no contract room as it is.

Canucks Army has a interesting list of right-shot d-men who might end up on waivers. A couple of the more intriguing ones are Connor Timmins in TO an Dylan Coughlan in Carolina.
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I'd be shocked if Timmins hit waivers.

In that article, Kovacevic is basically the only guy that interests me. Maybe Coghlan.
 
Vector said:
I'd be shocked if Kovacevic gets waived.

It'd be kind of funny to get Coghlan after acquiring Bear. Both guys pushed out by Chatfield.
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Speaking of Bear, he's still out there....although like won't be ready to play much before Xmas.

Still, the Canucks might be able to survive a couple of months with McWard, and then re-sign Bear if the experiment didn't work out.
 
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biturbo19 said:
The only one i'd really be worried about at all in that cluster, is Wolanin. It'd be a shame to lose him as basically "found money". Cheap solid depth.

Rathbone...ehhh maybe he's claimed if someone has room for a project. Maybe not. Who cares though? I'd probably want to explore if there's a way to swap him for someone else's fringe guy first, but if you have to waive him and lose him...not gonna shed any tears.

Woo hasn't established himself as an NHL player at all yet. Those kind of guys are tough claims because a team has to commit an NHL roster spot to them without anything to really go on.

Juulsen has cleared waivers how many times now? Maybe you get unlucky and a team has a RHD injury they want to backfill at just the wrong time as you're sliding him through waivers. But otherwise, should clear easily.

Irwin is a 35 going on 36 #8D at best at this point in his career. Not really the sort of guy who tends to be claimed.

Brisebois has such low "upside" i doubt he'd draw much interest as a claim.


I could actually see someone snagging a guy like Studnicka even though he's been thoroughly underwhelming here, and in Boston before that. He's still fairly young, has solid tools, and some track record in the AHL to lean on.
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At this point I can see a team snagging Studnicka, Irwin and (to a lesser extent) Woo. I actually think a guy like Irwin is an easy claim for a team dealing with some injuries on the backend. You know what you are going to get from him. Otherwise he is at the end of his NHL career and could clear waivers.

Woo I can see a team having a look or not. I’m not good at predicting these things.
 
Look at the some of the bottom-feeding teams who've suffered some training camp injuries. San Jose comes to mind.

I could easily see them taking a flyer on players like Woo and Studnicka. , or even Irwin who played for San Jose a decade ago.
 
interesting to see if Lavoie makes the team in Edmonton. Would be a great pick up at center position. 6’4 right shot centerman.
 
VanJack said:
As I recall, Benning used to be hyperactive trolling the NHL's waiver bargain bin. But I'm having trouble coming up with a single guy claimed off waivers by the Rutherford-Allvin regime.
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I think that was more Gillis. Gillis purposely left room for a waiver wire/late preseason pickup.

Benning’s waiver pickups were done midseason IIRC.
 
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F A N said:
I think that was more Gillis. Gillis purposely left room for a waiver wire/late preseason pickup.

Benning’s waiver pickups were done midseason IIRC.
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You’re correct. Gillis was more active during pre-season (ex: Stanton) while Benning grabbed guys mid-way through the regular season (ex: Vesey, Carmarossa).
 
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