kilowatt
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We ought to split up Gavrikov and Roy at even strength.
Gavrikov - Spence
Bjornfot - Roy
That’s assuming Bjornfot makes the team, but my money’s on that not happening.
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We ought to split up Gavrikov and Roy at even strength.
Gavrikov - Spence
Bjornfot - Roy
That’s assuming Bjornfot makes the team, but my money’s on that not happening.
They have to actually be able to play hockey too you know.
LilBallofHate
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I get all the toughness talk, but is it really why we lost to Edmonton. If we win game 4 which we should have, probably win the series. Got scored on literally every power play Edmonton had, Korpisalo played well for the most part, but gave up some weird wrist shot goals from far out. I don't know, I guess they could have smashed some more faces in.
johnjm22
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Roy and Gavrikov are awesome together.
But I don't disagree with your premise. Pairing Clarke/Spence with Gavrikov and Bjornfot with Roy balances things out, and puts our young players in an optimal situation to succeed.
You could occasionally put Gav-Roy back together in specific situations when you really need it.
Todd won't do it.
YAYSAY
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Yeah simply getting tougher isn't getting past the Oilers. They dominated for like 90% of the series. Even the games where the Kings won felt more like luck than sheer willpower.
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I said Chippy, not tough but he is probably a guy that could contribute to team toughness which is what we need. I can certainly see him getting into guys faces when they get too close to the goalie… fighting? no.
BigKing
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Maybe you win Game 4 if you do something about your top pairing defenseman getting concussed a couple of weeks earlier against the same team you're playing in said Game 4.
It's a f***ing mindset and this franchise has never had it since Tkachuk elbowed Doughty. When the Kings did something about it next time in Calgary, it was McNabb, Andreoff and Iginla. It definitely wasn't Kopitar and it never will be but it certainly wasn't Doughty and he's the one that got elbowed! Then he gets clowned multiple times over in ensuing matchups.
Those are the two holdovers from that team. They are the top two leaders on this team. It is a disease that Blake has not addressed and it permeates throughout the lineup.
Cup winners don't take shit. MacEwen smashes a Vegas player, no injury, but he gets dealt with immediately. Mikey Anderson concussed on a cheap hit? f***ing crickets.
They won't win a damn thing until that changes.
It's a f***ing mindset and this franchise has never had it since Tkachuk elbowed Doughty. When the Kings did something about it next time in Calgary, it was McNabb, Andreoff and Iginla. It definitely wasn't Kopitar and it never will be but it certainly wasn't Doughty and he's the one that got elbowed! Then he gets clowned multiple times over in ensuing matchups.
Those are the two holdovers from that team. They are the top two leaders on this team. It is a disease that Blake has not addressed and it permeates throughout the lineup.
Cup winners don't take shit. MacEwen smashes a Vegas player, no injury, but he gets dealt with immediately. Mikey Anderson concussed on a cheap hit? f***ing crickets.
They won't win a damn thing until that changes.
KingsHockey24
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What about the Joshua hit on Grundstrom?
Nurse taking out Grunny’s teeth?
The Josh Anderson hit on Kopitar?
The Zadorov cross check on Byfield?
Cogliano cheap shots on Kempe and Fiala?
Nothing.
Nurse taking out Grunny’s teeth?
The Josh Anderson hit on Kopitar?
The Zadorov cross check on Byfield?
Cogliano cheap shots on Kempe and Fiala?
Nothing.
You’re 100% correct, but signing over the hill assclowns like Simmonds and Clifford or never wases like Boko (lmao WHAT?) isn’t the answer. Doubt it changes until Blake, Doughty and Kopitar are LONG gone.
Agree 1000%. If you remember Lombardi came down after the Tkachuk reverse check on Doughty and gave it the team.
The best part was Iginla later fighting Engelland (after he cross checked Kopi) in Calgary and bloodying him.
BigKing
Blake Out of Hell III: Back in to Hell
Stephenson on Bjornfot was egregious.
Hell...Fiala on Roy. You can make a giant list.
Part of my point was the guys who did something are long gone. But a guy like Forbort who I'm pretty sure was right there when the elbow happened, he would do something now but he didn't then. He goes and plays for a real team and changes.
It's disgusting. This Ziemmer kid is my favorite Kings player right now and he isn't even under contract.
Lt Dan
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I have no problem with the goaltending. Quick and Peterson were awful last year. I would like to see a full season from Copley and Vegas proved you can win with career back ups. Kings now have 3.
The toughness is still an issue.
The toughness is still an issue.
kilowatt
the vibes are not immaculate
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Yeah I agree. Last minute of a game to protect a lead, sit Bjornfot and Clarke. Same with the penalty kill if the game is close.
Mcsorley47
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The way they drafted this year and signing Englund tells me they know.
I expect things to change.
Clarke was getting run in his small stint in LA year. He's pretty skinny. The Kings basically signed Englund to protect him.
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Reaper45
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I will take Bertuzzi. He scored 30 goals a few seasons back, has major attitude (see stick breaking incident during the playoffs), can fight, and is perfect for the playoffs.
bland
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Yeah, but its not fighting toughness, its "win that board battle and get the puck out of the zone so we can change and not get caught with kids against the best in the world" toughness that is missing, and it got worse by losing Iafallo.
KingsHockey24
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Hear me out..
Quinton Byfield - Anze Kopitar - Adrian Kempe
Kevin Fiala - PLD - Arthur Kaliyev
Trevor Moore - Philip Danault - Viktor Arvidsson
Nick Ritchie - Blake Lizotte - Trevor Lewis
*Carl Grundstrom
Proven heavy weight, can score, quite inconsistent. Switch out he and Grundstrom depending on who's hot vs cold.
Also when it's game 40 of the regular season and Byfield has 5 points you can put him with Kopitar. Dwight King 2.0
Quinton Byfield - Anze Kopitar - Adrian Kempe
Kevin Fiala - PLD - Arthur Kaliyev
Trevor Moore - Philip Danault - Viktor Arvidsson
Nick Ritchie - Blake Lizotte - Trevor Lewis
*Carl Grundstrom
Proven heavy weight, can score, quite inconsistent. Switch out he and Grundstrom depending on who's hot vs cold.
Also when it's game 40 of the regular season and Byfield has 5 points you can put him with Kopitar. Dwight King 2.0
Did you see what happen to Tkachuk in the game after he nailed Eichel in Vegas. Kolesaar went after him with a clean hard check and broke his sternum. That is old school hockey. You mess with our best player. we are going to mess with your best player, no waiting around. Blake talks about building a Cup contending team. That will only happen when the Kings bring in talent that can play and be real physical and take no crap and push back when needed. If the Kings are looking for this in Kopitar and Doughty, they are in real big trouble. Kopitar shits his pants if he even thinks he might have to fight. and Doughty, he is all mouth. Love the Kings but they are a very soft team and won't go nowhere until they toughen up and stick up for each other.
