Series Talk: 2023 ECQF - BOSTON BRUINS (A1) vs Florida Panthers (WC2)

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Forbort guards well in front of the net! That’s where the play is going to end up. So… to me start there and work your way out to other things, etc. We can have all our D making nice first passes, transition and retrieve just fine, but then give up softies like we don’t even exist in front of the net, where it becomes a battle, and where boxing out and tying up sticks is crucial, blocking shots, etc. Forbort doesn’t “puck watch” too much out front. He letting the goalie try to make saves and smother the puck. Goalies would rather have D do all this than to pick off passes, etc. To suggest that the play will “never have the puck” in our zone and out front is not realistic. It’s going to happen.

Forbort gives up more shot attempts and more good shot attempts than anyone. He doesn’t actually guard well in front of the net. This is just a fallacy based on the fact that Grizz is short. It’s tiresome.

 

[I Hate Philadelphia]

Remember the last time our captain was sick to start a postseason run

 

[danpantz]

Forbort gives up more shot attempts and more good shot attempts than anyone. He doesn’t actually guard well in front of the net. This is just a fallacy based on the fact that Grizz is short. It’s tiresome.

The stats and facts don’t matter in the Forbort/gryz debate to a lot of people.

Forbort = big and strong
Gryz = small and soft

 

[GordonHowe]

What to make of Patrice Bergeron and Brad Marchand’s status ahead of Bruins’ playoff opener against Panthers

Patrice Bergeron was the lone Bruin to not stake during Saturday's practice at Warrior Ice Arena. Should Boston be concerned? Read more on Boston.com.

www.boston.com

 

[bearcountry17]

The stats and facts don’t matter in the Forbort/gryz debate to a lot of people.

Forbort = big and strong
Gryz = small and soft

Forbot was getting heavy defensive zone starts against Carolina playing with Clifton(what was not nearly as good as this years version) and was only a -1 at ES with a 92.2 oiSv%. Grzlecyk was getting much more sheltered starts and was -6 with a putrid 78.9% oiSv% playing with Mcavoy and brought zero offense to make up for shortcomings defensively.

 

[Fenway]

Florida Panthers at Boston Bruins Game 1

Play-by-Play: Sean McDonough Analyst: Ray Ferraro Reporter: Emily Kaplan In Studio: Steve Levy, Mark Messier, Chris Chelios, P.K. Subban, Arda Öcal

 

[danpantz]

Forbot was getting heavy defensive zone starts against Carolina playing with Clifton(what was not nearly as good as this years version) and was only a -1 at ES with a 92.2 oiSv%. Grzlecyk was getting much more sheltered starts and was -6 with a putrid 78.9% oiSv% playing with Mcavoy and brought zero offense to make up for shortcomings defensively.

Gryz also played that series with a big injury against tougher competition.

He’s been much better than Forbort this season outside of the PK. He also won’t need to play against the tougher competition with Orlov in the mix.

 

[northeastern]

Bergeron to be a game to decision I thought he was fine?!?!

 

[danpantz]

Bergeron to be a game to decision I thought he was fine?!?!

He’s sick. Something is going through the locker room right now.

 

[Gordoff]

Florida Panthers at Boston Bruins Game 1

Play-by-Play: Sean McDonough Analyst: Ray Ferraro Reporter: Emily Kaplan In Studio: Steve Levy, Mark Messier, Chris Chelios, P.K. Subban, Arda Öcal

So NOT on NESN?

 

[LouJersey]

The stats and facts don’t matter in the Forbort/gryz debate to a lot of people.

Forbort = big and strong
Gryz = small and soft

While the above is probably true, Gryz is a far superior facilitator and helps the offense immensely. Forbort really doesn’t do anything

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Forbot was getting heavy defensive zone starts against Carolina playing with Clifton(what was not nearly as good as this years version) and was only a -1 at ES with a 92.2 oiSv%. Grzlecyk was getting much more sheltered starts and was -6 with a putrid 78.9% oiSv% playing with Mcavoy and brought zero offense to make up for shortcomings defensively.

I don’t think you get that using the oiSV% is making the point against Forbort. And I noticed you didn’t use on ice shooting percentage either.

Did you consider Grizz having a 57.4% xGF while Forbort had a 34.7%? Or did you watch the game 5v5 when Forbort was getting targeted on every entry and absolutely caved in?

 

[danpantz]

While the above is probably true, Gryz is a far superior facilitator and helps the offense immensely. Forbort really doesn’t do anything

Forbort kills penalties well. That’s his value. Gryz is better at everything else.

 

[Therick67]

He’s sick. Something is going through the locker room right now.

it sure sounds like a little more than that based on the coaches comment’s.

 

[NeelyDan]

I just don't understand how you could look at each team's roster and body of work over an 82-game season and truly believe that the Bruins are going to lose in a 7-game series. It defies logic.

It's not going to be an easy series, there is no such thing as an easy series in the playoffs. But to claim that the Panthers should win is bananaland and reeks of contrarianism and desire to be "right" should the unlikely occur.

im not sure if i love you more for your shortrib pasta or for your use of the word bananaland

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Forbort kills penalties well. That’s his value. Gryz is better at everything else.

Would anyone want Forbort on a big PK over Orlov or Lindholm? Because I don’t know how one could make that case - and that ignores the other 54 minutes or so of each game.

 

[danpantz]

it sure sounds like a little more than that based on the coaches comment’s.

We’ve seen the injuries Bergeron plays through. It would take a major one to keep him out.

Many players have gotten sick in that locker room lately

 

[LouJersey]

Forbort kills penalties well. That’s his value. Gryz is better at everything else.

There is no point for him when Lindholm and orlov do it better is my point

 

[danpantz]

Would anyone want Forbort on a big PK over Orlov or Lindholm? Because I don’t know how one could make that case - and that ignores the other 54 minutes or so of each game.

Orlov, lindholm, McAvoy and carlo probably should all pk over him. But he is better at it than clifton and gryz.

There is no point for him when Lindholm and orlov do it better is my point

And Mac and Carlo

 

[Johnny4778]

I wouldn’t play 37 tomorrow give him until Wednesday

No need risking other players getting sick

Guy played with a punctured lung; unless it’s a concussion he is playing

 

[jgatie]

So NOT on NESN?

It's on both ESPN and NESN.

 

[RussellmaniaKW]

if Bergeron sits it'll be to preserve his health for a long run and to keep him from getting other guys on the team sick. I wouldn't assume he'll play through it in game 1.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Orlov, lindholm, McAvoy and carlo probably should all pk over him. But he is better at it than clifton and gryz.



And Mac and Carlo

I think we’re talking about lefthanders obviously.

If Orlov or Lindholm get hurt then Forbort would slot in and cover the PK. Otherwise he should be on the 9th floor because of how he plays 5v5

 

[danpantz]

So NOT on NESN?

I believe every first round game that’s not on ABC will also be on nesn

 

[DarrenBanks56]

i dont mind gryz sitting. he was horrible last 2 playoff years.
glad bertuzzi on line 2.
nice to see foligno in tbere.
knew freddy woukd be on 9th floor