Prospect Info: 2023 Draft Thread (Yotes picking #6 & #12)

[SR]

Who do hope to get at 6 and 12?

I don’t follow the prospects much. Need your guy’s expertise.

 

[tucknroll]

Moore reminds me of Kesler without the attitude

 

[Dead Coyote]

Looks like Pronman is very clearly drinking the kool-aid on a lot of russian guys, and Wood. You can tell he loves the big bruiser PWF/Goalscorer type guys, he has 6 of them in his top 15 and Perreault is the only guy he has in that list who's smaller.

He's real high on US and Russian guys in general. Huge bias towards the WJC too.

Benson at 17 is criminal.
Edstrom at 18 is pretty high risk too but if you go off only the WJC it makes sense.
Also have questions about Moore at 19, because I also think that's criminal.

I disagree with his talk about Sale being not great in this years WJC, he had almost nothing to work with and is much more of a playmaker than a scorer but still put up points doing both, his teammates couldn't capitalize on a lot of his passes but they still looked a lot better than they deserved because of him.

Nelson is a guy who hasn't been on lists all year and could go as last as the 3rd round, I'm not buying that one tournament makes him a 1st round talent. Same with Wahlberg pretty much.

Who do hope to get at 6 and 12?

I don’t follow the prospects much. Need your guy’s expertise.

Hoping Michkov and one of Moore, Stenberg, Benson or Dvorsky. Probably unlikely Stenberg goes that high though.

 

[Dead Coyote]

Actually the fact this guy doesn't have Cristall on his list at all (unless I'm blind which is definitely a possibility) just makes me toss the whole thing out the window. I can accept the rest, but not having Cristall as a 1st round talent is the same reason Debrincat went in the late 2nd and we all know how that turned out. Not at all the same thing as a guy who's only 5'8 or whatever. Cristall might be the best playmaker in the whole draft, and yes that includes Smith. Just because he can't play defense (or doesn't want to) and is somewhat inconsistent (personally I thought he looked pretty decent all tournament) does not erase that.

 

[rt]

Who do hope to get at 6 and 12?

I don’t follow the prospects much. Need your guy’s expertise.

Guys who could realistically be at 6th(or 7th) that I’d be pumped on would be Zach Benson (who I have ranked 3rd), Michkov(I’ve got him 5th), Smith, Dvorsky, Danielson, Barlow, Leonard, or Reinbacher.

A couple of those guys could conceivably be the there at 12th. But if not, I’d be thrilled with any of Honzek, Yager, Moore, Wood, or Ritchie.

If my BPA at 6th(or 7th) is a winger, I take him. But I very likely then lean toward a non-winger at 12th, unless it’s not even close.

Actually the fact this guy doesn't have Cristall on his list at all (unless I'm blind which is definitely a possibility) just makes me toss the whole thing out the window. I can accept the rest, but not having Cristall as a 1st round talent is the same reason Debrincat went in the late 2nd and we all know how that turned out. Not at all the same thing as a guy who's only 5'8 or whatever. Cristall might be the best playmaker in the whole draft, and yes that includes Smith. Just because he can't play defense (or doesn't want to) and is somewhat inconsistent (personally I thought he looked pretty decent all tournament) does not erase that.

Cristall wouldn’t make my top 20. But he would likely be in my top 32.

 

[che]

If Michkov is still available at #6 you have to take him. At #12 I hope for Dvorsky but he'll likely be off the board.

 

[lanky]

I think our first pick at 6/7/8 will be Michkov, Dvorsky or Reinbacher.

 

[IrishFin]

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1. Bedard
2. Fantilli
3. Smith
4. Carlsson
5. Michkov
6. Dvorsky
7. Leonard
8. Benson
9. Perreault
10. Reinbacher
11. Barlow
12. Wood

 

[rt]

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There is no doubt whatsoever who will be taken No. 1 overall in the talent-laden 2023 NHL Draft. Beyond that, though, at Nos. 2 through 5? Check out TSN Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie's Top 12 Lottery Edition Draft Ranking.

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1. Bedard
2. Fantilli
3. Smith
4. Carlsson
5. Michkov
6. Dvorsky
7. Leonard
8. Benson
9. Perreault
10. Reinbacher
11. Barlow
12. Wood

Wow! It’s like throw out the whole season and focus on the u18s exclusively kind of list. I wonder if we’ll see things calm down and level out by the final rankings.

Probably goes to show (or reiterate) how close the rankings really are. That one tournament can really shuffle the deck.

Replace Perreault with Danielson and and Wood with Honzek and it’s the same guys in my top twelve. Just different orders.

I thought I was overreacting to the u18s in my adjustments. But now I think I didn’t go crazy enough.

 

[hbk]

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There is no doubt whatsoever who will be taken No. 1 overall in the talent-laden 2023 NHL Draft. Beyond that, though, at Nos. 2 through 5? Check out TSN Hockey Insider Bob McKenzie's Top 12 Lottery Edition Draft Ranking.

www.tsn.ca

1. Bedard
2. Fantilli
3. Smith
4. Carlsson
5. Michkov
6. Dvorsky
7. Leonard
8. Benson
9. Perreault
10. Reinbacher
11. Barlow
12. Wood

I tell you what I'm excited as a fan if we land 2 of those names between 7-12. I'd prefer a name in the top 6 don't get me wrong but our rebuild is setting up nicely.

 

[rt]

I think our first pick at 6/7/8 will be Michkov, Dvorsky or Reinbacher.

Getting a “safer” two-way C like Dvorsky at 6th, who’s already very experienced playing in a men’s league, and then adding a true wildcard, boom or bust, raw tools and skills gamble like Matthew Wood at 12th, with him poised to take his time at UConn, would be so great.

 

[hbk]

Wow! It’s like throw out the whole season and focus on the u18s exclusively kind of list. I wonder if we’ll see things calm down and level out by the final rankings.

Probably goes to show (or reiterate) how close the rankings really are. That one tournament can really shuffle the deck.

Replace Perreault with Danielson and and Wood with Honzek and it’s the same guys in my top twelve. Just different orders.

I thought I was overreacting to the u18s in my adjustments. But now I think I didn’t go crazy enough.

oh it's recency bias but it happens every U18.

Bensen hasn't looked as good since he came back from injury so I think he will be there at our pick.

 

[rt]

I tell you what I'm excited as a fan if we land 2 of those names between 7-12. I'd prefer a name in the top 6 don't get me wrong but our rebuild is setting up nicely.

The only name I’m not pumped about is Perreault. But any two of the other 11 and I’m thrilled.

oh it's recency bias but it happens every U18.

Bensen hasn't looked as good since he came back from injury so I think he will be there at our pick.

I have Benson 3rd. I don’t know if I’d have the guts to take him over Carlsson in reality. I’d easily take him over Smith, no problem. No hesitation.

But I think there’s a good chance he’s there at 12th.

 

[Art.Vandelay]

I'm hoping for Yager or Sale with the Ottawa pick. I'd like Bedard or Fantilli with ours.

 

[hbk]

The only name I’m not pumped about is Perreault. But any two of the other 11 and I’m thrilled.


I have Benson 3rd. I don’t know if I’d have the guts to take him over Carlsson in reality. I’d easily take him over Smith, no problem. No hesitation.

But I think there’s a good chance he’s there at 12th.

hard to ignore that level of production. Same with Smith who you pretty much have to conclude is a top 5 lock now. skill is skill.

 

[lanky]

hard to ignore that level of production. Same with Smith who you pretty much have to conclude is a top 5 lock now. skill is skill.

It's not easy dissecting the impact of two elite players that are always on the ice together. Like Pat Kane and Sam Gagner, it took scouts a while to figure who was really driving their success. Then when they figured it out, it was really hard to project how good the "passenger" Sam Gagner might really be.

I think Will Smith is going to have a much better career than Gabe Perreault. Perreault might be worthy of a top 20 pick, but I don't want him in the top 12.

 

[lanky]

Big day on Monday.
I'm not counting on a lottery win but I will be crushed if our pick is pushed back to 8 or if the Sens pick is deferred to next year.
Gimme 7 and 12 and a pizza and some cider and Monday will be a very fine day.

 

[hbk]

How do we feel if we walk away with Reidbacher and Wallinder as our two first rounders? Button seems to think Wallinder is a top pairing D is why I am putting him at that 12 slot.

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

Don't buck the trend...take the O guys in the heavy O draft and then take D men in the supposedly heavy D prospect draft next year

 

[lanky]

How do we feel if we walk away with Reidbacher and Wallinder as our two first rounders? Button seems to think Wallinder is a top pairing D is why I am putting him at that 12 slot.

Seems excessive. Both RD, like Soderstom and Lamoureux.

Those guys will always have a solid value on the trade market, so ultimately I'd be ok with it, I just would prefer one of the many talented forwards.

It seems like a gift to have Michkov put up generational results and then likely dropping in the draft. I hope we can be the ones to benefit.

 

[rt]

Big day on Monday.
I'm not counting on a lottery win but I will be crushed if our pick is pushed back to 8 or if the Sens pick is deferred to next year.
Gimme 7 and 12 and a pizza and some cider and Monday will be a very fine day.

My main concern is the Ottawa pick. I don’t want it to drop or get deferred. I don’t care as much about our pick being 6 vs 7 vs 8.

Don't buck the trend...take the O guys in the heavy O draft and then take D men in the supposedly heavy D prospect draft next year

Yep. I’m with you. But I like a bunch of blueliners around our 2nd. Maxim Strbak, Tanner Molendyk, Hunter Brzustewicz, Oliver Bonk.

I'm hoping for Yager or Sale with the Ottawa pick. I'd like Bedard or Fantilli with ours.

I’m just not sold on Sale. Love Yager though. At 12th I’d be pumped.

 

[Schemp]

...I'm still dreaming of Fantilli and Reinbacher. Have until Monday before reality sits in!

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

I agree...and I'm not so sure that Wallinder won't be there at our pick in the 2nd round as well

 

[hbk]

I agree...and I'm not so sure that Wallinder won't be there at our pick in the 2nd round as well

depends how representative Button's opinion is of the scouting community because if here are teams out there who think that he is a first pairing RD who can skate he will go early.

 

[rt]

6th overall: Dalibor Dvorsky
12th overall: Samuel Honzek
38th overall: Maxim Strbak

Na Zdravie!!!