GDT: 2023 Caps NHL Draft Thread

Kalopsia

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Re-entry player. Meh.


Looking through that guys past lists there's been a handful of over-agers who hit. He ranked Andrew Shaw 7th in 2011 (139th overall pick), Tanner Pearson 1st in 2012 (30th overall), Barclay Goodrow 7th in 2023 (went undrafted), Andrew Mangiapane 1st (166th overall) and Pius Suter 2nd (undrafted) in 2015, and Sean Durzi 2nd in 2018 (52nd overall). Most of these guys were considerably more productive than Patrick Thomas was this past year though. Feels like a wasted pick.
 

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"Some", not "tons", come on. You are clearly at a disadvantage when you are a smaller player in the size-happy NHL. Only the best of the best -- guys like Martin St Louis and Pavel Bure -- survive. Not sure what Benson's ultimate fate will be.
Once again, he’s much bigger than you’re making him out to be.
And also once again, I just provided you a list much longer than Pavel Bure and Martin St Louis of guys who are smaller than Benson who are carving out solid (or borderline hall of fame in some cases) NHL careers.

If Benson busts, it won’t be because of his size. It will be because he wasn’t good enough to translate his style to the NHL.
 

The Instigator

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Still a few interesting players around. I'd be surprised if they go forward again but Timur is still available.

Scott Razlaff as well if they decide to grab a goaltender which I would like.
 

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Guys who are complimentary/grinder players in juniors usually don’t pan out to become much more than organizational depth or fringe NHLers. That’s par for the course in the 4th round, but I would have preferred a swing at upside rather than another Riley Sutter-type for Hershey.
 
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Langway

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Cam Allen in the fifth. Was often ranked in the first round to start the year. Tough year.
 

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Write up on Cristall from Bleacher Report FWIW.

  1. Cristall is one of the most creative players in the draft. Listed at 5'10" and 165 pounds, Cristall is undeterred simply because he's so elusive. He is among the best in the draft at moving with the puck and changing directions.
    Cristall is an adept playmaker who knows how to find critical passing lanes and then exploit them without giving away his intentions with his body language; his hips and eyes will indicate a desire to shoot before he slips the puck to a teammate waiting in his periphery.
    The left wing has become a better goal scorer, too. In September, I highlighted his ability to get into scoring positions but unable to finish chances. Cristall's shot is still underwhelming, but he has vastly improved his touch and now placing pucks past goaltenders from closer distances. His 39 goals in 54 WHL regular-season games is a critical improvement from the 28 he had in 61 games last season.
    Cristall's 1.76 points per game in the WHL ranked only below Connor Bedard and Logan Stankoven, a top prospect for the Dallas Stars. And while playing on a mediocre Kelowna Rockets team allowed him a lot of ice time and touches of the puck, there's the thought that the best is yet to come for the Vancouver resident. Too often he'd make plays that were beyond the cognition of his linemates.
    Some scouts are skeptical of how his game will translate at higher levels. But counterintuitively those problems are why I rate him so highly. Cristall has had to work around his physical shortcomings, and those problem-solving skills will serve him well as he faces new challenges.
    With some improvements in his skating and better application of his cerebral style to defensive concepts, Cristall has upside as a top-six, playmaking winger.
    Cristall was ranked 15th on the B/R Big Board.
 
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Langway

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From ohlprospects:
Cam Allen - Defense - Guelph Storm
Total Votes: 3
Highest Ranking: 8th (1x)
Comments:
"Allen is a strong two-way defender, using his skating ability to cover space in all three zones. He’s extremely agile and has the quickness to maintain solid gap control while defending the rush. Offensively, while he may not be much of a scoring threat, he’s extremely smart and can use his vision and patience to manipulate the defense and open up passing/shooting lanes. The type of player who does a ton of little things that may go unnoticed, but he consistently has a positive impact when he’s on the ice." - Austin Broad

"In most games I watched of Allen’s, he gave me migraines. I’ve never seen a more trigger-happy defender, who yet refuses to change the angle on his shot. On his day, though, the skillset and intensity are off the charts, the defensive engagement is solid, and the hits are bone-crushing." - Hadi Kalakeche
Needs to streamline and simplify but a lot to like if he can manage it. A project for sure but worth a shot.
 

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maybe the scouts heard that (let's assume Pitt or Phil because it's more fun) are going invite to camp Patrick Thomas when he goes undrafted

great work ethic

Go Pat!
 

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