Rumor: 2023-24 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Season Thread

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To me it was a typical Bruins choke. It was not unseen.

Yeah, I wondered myself. They've had some monster regular seasons in recent years and done Jack all in the playoffs. Shades of SJ, but they'd actually won in the past, so it keeps everyone from actually calling it out.

My bet is Toronto... I don't know how they'll pull it off, but they'll find a way.

Lmao, why would he do that? If I were Kane I'd view that core as a joke.
 
My guess: Kane will sign with the Sabres, provided they actually take a step and are in a playoff race.
I mean they were in the playoff race all season this year. I can’t imagine they won’t at least be competing for a playoff spot again this season.
 
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Kane will miss a few months isn't he? If he signs only when he comes back, even if it's 4.5M AAV it won't cost that against the cap. Just like the trade deadline.

If Drouin is a nothing sandwich sure I'll believe they'll get serious on Kane. Until that bares out or Kane straight makes it a point to play here I think the top six is set.

That 3RW or #6D slot I could still see a move, but I think we're done until we get a clearer picture of who actually sucks between Drouin, Ryjo, and Manson.

For me the two big questions are Drouin and Manson. Ryjo I have more confidence in.

Would I like a solid 3rd liner though, yes, do we know what position we're going to really need to address no. Thank God it isn't as likely to be at center unless it's a 3C because Colton keeps having to play up.
 
Toronto’s D-core is absolutely putrid. I’ll be shocked if they don’t address that part of the team before they make any big additions at forward. You just cannot rely on McCabe, Brodie, Gio, Klingberg to shut down the opposing teams top forwards while also getting the puck to their very talented forwards in the playoffs.

They may have won a cup by now if they had traded for Devon Toews instead of us. I can see them being a suitor for Toews if he were to hit free agency.
 
Toronto’s D-core is absolutely putrid. I’ll be shocked if they don’t address that part of the team before they make any big additions at forward. You just cannot rely on McCabe, Brodie, Gio, Klingberg to shut down the opposing teams top forwards while also getting the puck to their very talented forwards in the playoffs.

They may have won a cup by now if they had traded for Devon Toews instead of us. I can see them being a suitor for Toews if he were to hit free agency.
Don't tell that to the Leafs fans on Twitter or HFBoards. They think it's their year. But I think every year is "the year... to get out of the first round".
 
It's going to be as satisfying as givin the ol' missus a kiss on the cheek.

Is it though? Sounds like you're in the dog house. Unless it's ass cheek...

Of course I'm two days late and the joke has already been abused by now. :facepalm:

Also, f*** P. Kane. I don't want anyone who'd rather play under the lights of NYC. It's obvious he'd rather be there like every other big name FA. Waste away the rest of your career there, idgaf.

Unless we get him. Then f*** yeah, let's go.
 
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Don't tell that to the Leafs fans on Twitter or HFBoards. They think it's their year. But I think every year is "the year... to get out of the first round".
That core is a joke, and it's starting to fracture. They've been slapped multiple times and failed to prove themselves multiple times.

They're stupid for not shaking that group up IMO. They're like watching the movie ground hogs day every year now.
 
I mean they were in the playoff race all season this year. I can’t imagine they won’t at least be competing for a playoff spot again this season.
I guess. But I meant more in a way where they are above or at the line for the whole season, and not constantly scoreboard watching. A situation where Kane can look in December and say: "That Buffalo team looks pretty good right now. They could actually do something here". It's his hometown, and they have the cap space to actually give him something more than just a league minimum which most contenders would offer.
 
I guess. But I meant more in a way where they are above or at the line for the whole season, and not constantly scoreboard watching. A situation where Kane can look in December and say: "That Buffalo team looks pretty good right now. They could actually do something here". It's his hometown, and they have the cap space to actually give him something more than just a league minimum which most contenders would offer.
I mean I get that, but last year was their first step forward with this core in a really hard conference. Them replacing Boston at minimum seems like a likely outcome.
 
Is it though? Sounds like you're in the dog house. Unless it's ass cheek...

Of course I'm two days late and the joke has already been abused by now. :facepalm:

Also, f*** P. Kane. I don't want anyone who'd rather play under the lights of NYC. It's obvious he'd rather be there like every other big name FA. Waste away the rest of your career there, idgaf.

Unless we get him. Then f*** yeah, let's go.

Yeah I'm no Kane fan myself, but I won't deny his skill.

I do think Drouin gets a bit too much shit and absolutely zero recognition for signing litterally a nothing contract to play here. He may not be worth a ton, but I absolutely believe he could have gotten more from another team. Talk about seeing a opportunity and doing whatever it takes to seize it.
 
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I wonder sometimes how much of this is the players' agent using the Avs to bring up the price from other teams they are interested in going to.

That would require the Avs to actually make competitive offers. In the end with guys like Panerin and Parise/Stutter I'm glad they didn't though.

I'm sure it's happened though. I think Stralman spured the Avs for Tampa IRRC.
 
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To compete when paying all of your star players big money, you have to make sacrifices. I know LOC is a 4th liner, but at this point I have no problems with him being the worst player on the third line IF he can keep his motor running high. In the past, when he's been asked to play too many minutes, there has been a noticeable decline in his performance.

Is that something a player can overcome with more conditioning? Is LOC capable of it? I mean, the offense isn't ever going to be there, but he could still be a pain in the ass to play against and forecheck hard.
 
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I wonder sometimes how much of this is the players' agent using the Avs to bring up the price from other teams they are interested in going to.

I feel like it's mostly this. Or it's a tire kicking convo that happened months before it was leaked by an opposing team to do a reporter a favor.

Many of these rumors don't make a lot of sense and it's just very rare that anything leaks from this organization.
 
To compete when paying all of your star players big money, you have to make sacrifices. I know LOC is a 4th liner, but at this point I have no problems with him being the worst player on the third line IF he can keep his motor running high. In the past, when he's been asked to play too many minutes, there has been a noticeable decline in his performance.

Is that something a player can overcome with more conditioning? Is LOC capable of it? I mean, the offense isn't ever going to be there, but he could still be a pain in the ass to play against and forecheck hard.

I think he did better at it last year, but yeah, my bet is that's their hope.

It would be nice if Drouin, Ryjo, and Manson were passable, and don't need replacing so they can fill that hole at the TDL with a legit addition. I think right now having so many boom or busts all over the lineup they probably value flexibility over pushing LOC down.

Lots of balls in the air with this roster for obvious reasons.
 
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Don't tell that to the Leafs fans on Twitter or HFBoards. They think it's their year. But I think every year is "the year... to get out of the first round".
This and the other comments are pretty much true for Edmonton as well. It is kind of amazing how similar these two franchises have ended up with lousy D, amazing 1st line stars, and little to show for it.
 
Toronto’s D-core is absolutely putrid. I’ll be shocked if they don’t address that part of the team before they make any big additions at forward. You just cannot rely on McCabe, Brodie, Gio, Klingberg to shut down the opposing teams top forwards while also getting the puck to their very talented forwards in the playoffs.

They may have won a cup by now if they had traded for Devon Toews instead of us. I can see them being a suitor for Toews if he were to hit free agency.

I certainly wouldn't say it'd putrid. But I think it lacks a true #1D which would slot everyone else down a spot into roles they'd be much better at. Particularly Rielly who has been miscast as a #1 guy his entire career in Toronto. He'd be great as a #2 though.

The issue for them is you can't exactly trade for #1 guys, they almost never become available and it's probably why they were linked to Karlsson so much before he ultimately went to Pittsburgh.


It'll be interesting to see what they do ultimately. A guy like Nylander could get them a really good Dman like Pesce, and if they decided then to sign Kane instead they wouldn't even lose much depth at forward. But at the end of the day I don't think Pesce moves the needle on the back end enough either.
 
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I certainly wouldn't say it'd putrid. But I think it lacks a true #1D which would slot everyone else down a spot into roles they'd be much better at. Particularly Rielly who has been miscast as a #1 guy his entire career in Toronto. He'd be great as a #2 though.

The issue for them is you can't exactly trade for #1 guys, they almost never become available and it's probably why they were linked to Karlsson so much before he ultimately went to Pittsburgh.


It'll be interesting to see what they do ultimately. A guy like Nylander could get them a really good Dman like Pesce, and if they decided then to sign Kane instead they wouldn't even lose much depth at forward. But at the end of the day I don't think Pesce moves the needle on the back end enough either.

Who was the dude they traded Kessel for that blew up in their face? Then there was Dion lol.

They have some legit bad luck in that area too.
 
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