Rumor: 2023-24 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Season Thread

[Alienblood]

The Avs don’t have significant regression risk this year, that’s ridiculous. You can say they are in a cap crunch, but not regression due to age. The Avs top 4 D are all currently under the age of 30, two of which are 25 and under in Makar and Byram. The Avs top 6 has one forward in RyJo over the age of 30(Colton taking his place would make it zero).

Benn, Seguin, Duchene, Pavelski and Suter are all older than the Avs two oldest core players in Toews and Landy who isn’t even going to be relied upon this season due to injury. There is no significant regression risk for the Avs core at the moment. In a couple years you could make that argument, but this season the Stars are way more reliant on their older players, it really isn’t a debate.

Average age doesn’t factor in the roles your older players are being asked to play.

Girard is 25 or under as well.

 

[Hasbro]

Girard is 25 or under as well.

Inches tall?

 

[Sea Eagles]

Wagner only played two NHL games in the last two years. His three years prior to that in Boston were pretty awful. He has fallen off a cliff since his brief stint here.

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But what I see there , is when he's in the line-ups consistently for a year on the 4th lines, he can put up 15-20 points, and add some grit.

I'm honestly not going to take 1-2 games in a year as a sample size for falling off a cliff mate, sorry.

Remember, we are debating 4C here. I'm not expecting Nathan Mackinnon here hehe

Inches tall?

And is still a warrior and doesn't back down to anyone or anything

 

[The Moops]

I thought I saw something about Chris Wagner sustaining a fairly big injury shortly after he signed.

Classic Avs lmao

 

[Linds]

Alex Galchenyuk- .54 PPG career average
29 years old. 3rd OA in 2012

Jonathan Drouin- .58 PPG career average
28 years old. 3rd OA in 2013

Alex Galchenyuk- 41 games played per year average the past 4 years

Jonathan Drouin- 41 games played average per year the past 4 years

These guys are literally the same player. Identical. And Galchenyuk lasted 11 games for us and didn't score a point.

The only difference is Drouin played with Mackinnon a decade ago.

Like I said, if Drouin is on the top 6 we are in deep trouble. I don't think there is any way he makes the team and we are far better off with Colton as a LW1.

Please just stop

 

[Gruyeriev]

But what I see there , is when he's in the line-ups consistently for a year on the 4th lines, he can put up 15-20 points, and add some grit.

I'm honestly not going to take 1-2 games in a year as a sample size for falling off a cliff mate, sorry.

Remember, we are debating 4C here. I'm not expecting Nathan Mackinnon here hehe


And is still a warrior and doesn't back down to anyone or anything

It’s the three years before I was referring to. The last time he scored 15-20 points was 5 years ago on a good Boston team. Also his possession metrics are horrible but they always have been. He is feisty. I’ll give you that but I would take Ben Meyers for 4C over him all day long and I don’t really even like Meyers.

 

[Sea Eagles]

It’s the three years before I was referring to. The last time he scored 15-20 points was 5 years ago on a good Boston team. Also his possession metrics are horrible but they always have been. He is feisty. I’ll give you that but I would take Ben Meyers for 4C over him all day long and I don’t really even like Meyers.

Well, if the third line has Wood-Colton-LOC on it, and the 4th Cogliano, it leaves 2 open spots on the 4th line available for players in pre-season to make and stake a claim (maybe Holland).

We have MacDermid who could also play 4RW to add some starch (I'd love that, his presence did affect some quality opposition forwards the last 2 seasons).

So the quality and options are there. If it's Meyers, sweet. I think he's much more productive than the stats show too.

 

[dahrougem2]

Well, if the third line has Wood-Colton-LOC on it, and the 4th Cogliano, it leaves 2 open spots on the 4th line available for players in pre-season to make and stake a claim (maybe Holland).

We have MacDermid who could also play 4RW to add some starch (I'd love that, his presence did affect some quality opposition forwards the last 2 seasons).

So the quality and options are there. If it's Meyers, sweet. I think he's much more productive than the stats show too.

Lol come on brother. There's nothing quality about guys like MacDermid or Meyers, and LOC on the 3rd line is not good.

MacDermid is the worst player in the NHL. He's one of the worst players in the AHL.

 

[Valushkin]

My perbix hurts

 

[NateTheGreat]

Peter ****ing Holland. LFG. Ask and you shall receive, thank yew CMac

 

[Valushkin]

Fire Bednar!

 

[UncleRisto]

Wags is likely out for months.

No worries, we filled the "No longer an NHLer" quota with the Holland PTO.

 

[Murzu]

Who does Wags think he is?! Jesse Winchester?!

 

[Sea Eagles]

Lol come on brother. There's nothing quality about guys like MacDermid or Meyers, and LOC on the 3rd line is not good.

MacDermid is the worst player in the NHL. He's one of the worst players in the AHL.

Almost 30 points, plus 11, playing on an injury ravaged team, playing limited minutes, up and down the lineup.

Not sure what you'd want more than that from LOC? 40 odd points? He was pretty physical and was quick.

Claiming MacDermid as the "worst player in the NHL" is absolutely hyperbole. Come on man. He's brutally physical, he can play defense and in the forwards, he's well respected and appreciated by his team mates.

 

[UncleRisto]

My perbix hurts

You need to take Zithromax.

(Paid by Pfizer.)

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Peter Holland is 100% my favorite random ass PTO add ever. Cmac has a sense of humor. I love it.

 

[Avs_19]

He gone.

 

[LOFIN]

At any price? Would you take MacDermid as 7D making $987,500 over EJ making $775k?

I think everyone here would've signed EJ for a league minimum, if nothing else than to hang out with the boys. But I do agree with the "some people"; JJ played better than him and glad the team made this choice as well.

All the best for EJ, but he's just not worth the money Buffalo is paying for him. At least not for us, with them they have the cap space to pay a premium for mere veteran presence.

 

[Balthazar]

So the Byram contract + 50k AAV

 

[LOFIN]

So the Byram contract + 20k AAV

All the interesting young D RFAs basically got the same deal, give or take a few thousand. Byram, Miller and now Bouchard. Will be interesting to see what kind of deals they get in two years. All should have very bright futures with them.

Bouchard will probably break the bank because he should get most points playing PP with McDrai. Byram and Miller are stuck behind Makar and Fox respectively.

 

[Mighty Makar]

That puts them over the cap?

 

[redacted]

That puts them over the cap?

The can send down a forward and clear with a 12-6-2 roster.

 

[Balthazar]

The Oilers board isn't thrilled with Pracey's record

They are looking at the Avs draft picks under Pracey and that's pretty funny.

 

[NateTheGreat]

Solid deal for Bouchard and the Oilers, I expect he’ll get a nice payday after this contract. The Oilers have to be all chips in for the next 3 years.

 

[dahrougem2]

Almost 30 points, plus 11, playing on an injury ravaged team, playing limited minutes, up and down the lineup.

Not sure what you'd want more than that from LOC? 40 odd points? He was pretty physical and was quick.

Claiming MacDermid as the "worst player in the NHL" is absolutely hyperbole. Come on man. He's brutally physical, he can play defense and in the forwards, he's well respected and appreciated by his team mates.

LOC is a 4th liner.

No, it is not hyperbole. He cannot defend, he cannot skate, he doesn't intimidate anyone. He is the worst player in the NHL and it isn't close.