GDT: 2023-24 season game 73 LA Kings vs Calgary Flames @7:00pm 3/30/24

[GoldenBearHockey]

I’m replying to the point about being able to compete every year. The window is 2 yrs, maybe then it back to rebuild.

Three holes… arguably more with no one ready to supplant or even equal 11 and 8. The problem with the holes is that there is no cap room to play with, most likely not next year without trading away someone like Danault.

I accept luck is needed but this strategy is like going all in on a straight flush draw… if even that good. I backed Blake longer than most but the PLD move just left me flummoxed on what the actual strategy was… even if I recognised some mistakes in the execution to that point.

Why would it be back to rebuild? In 2 years, Byfield should be able to replace Kopitar, and Clarke, should be able to replace Doughty.....there's cap room when Kopitar leaves, when Doughty leaves,

There's 100% been mistakes, show me an organization that hasn't made them.....but the whole cupboard is bare, we have to rebuild, is absolute garbage nonsense....

 

[Lt Dan]

This game was

 

[KINGS17]

This game was
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[Mattias]

Would love to ask him how that's work out the last 2 years for the Kings, just to watch the smoke escape his ears.

They somewhat did! Went on how LA had Edmonton on the ropes in the first series.

Strangely, they forgot how last year LA got called out for going 1-3-1 while being down multiple goals in a game.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I’m replying to the point about being able to compete every year. The window is 2 yrs, maybe then it back to rebuild.

Three holes… arguably more with no one ready to supplant or even equal 11 and 8. The problem with the holes is that there is no cap room to play with, most likely not next year without trading away someone like Danault.

I accept luck is needed but this strategy is like going all in on a straight flush draw… if even that good. I backed Blake longer than most but the PLD move just left me flummoxed on what the actual strategy was… even if I recognised some mistakes in the execution to that point.

Oohhhh this is a good one. More like all in on an offsuit pairs.

They somewhat did! Went on how LA had Edmonton on the ropes in the first series.

Strangely, they forgot how last year LA got called out for going 1-3-1 while being down multiple goals in a game.

And he's not wrong, but that's kind of worse. Couldn't put EDM away with a bunch of kids and learning--that's kind of acceptable even if it's in the TM 'choking threshold' wheelhouse. At least it was like the kids salvaged the season, we 'arrived' early, and showed well considering.

Then last year was a full on choke and in fewer games.

So what's this year? Can't wait to see their copium. Blake's window is shut, this was supposed to be the 'best' year they'd have with this core, the convergence of youth and experience, but it was completely borked.

 

[tigermask48]

If this was supposed to be "the year" this team goes for it all, there really is no hope for the future. This team as constructed is so underwhelming and limp. The whole team just folds at the first sign of pressure.

 

[BaileyFan]

Isn't most organization's strategy HOPE and LUCK? Think about it, they are HOPING they draft the next McDavid, not the next Puljarvi, they are HOPING they draft the next Kucherov, not the next Griffin Reinhart, they are LUCKY that ball bounced the right way and they moved up 10 spots etc.

That's not to say all strategy is hope and luck, of course not, but the cupboard is bare, yet people are SCREAMING for Fagemo, Thomas, Clarke, Helenius, Turcotte to get games played, this isn't the NFL where there is a shit ton of turnover from year to year, MOST organizations from year to year, will have 2-3 holes to plug, barring any trades/major f***ups/etc,

Holes are glaring, they need some tough bottom six players, and a better LHD, and a goaltender, 2-3 holes.....

Cap space is vital, I don't think giving PLD an 8 year deal was the best move, but there is more than enough room to find what you need.

Well, ackshually, hope is a strategy.

 

[Lt Dan]

Well, ackshually, hope is a strategy.

 

[King'sPawn]

Despite "an upgrade to goaltending" by losing Quick and Petersen, and despite "an upgrade to center" by trading for Dubois, the Kings would need to go 9-0 for the rest of the season to beat their regular season record. Regular season performance was the metric for Blake supporters.

Barring actually going past the first round, this season is starting to shape up to be a disaster.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Despite "an upgrade to goaltending" by losing Quick and Petersen, and despite "an upgrade to center" by trading for Dubois, the Kings would need to go 9-0 for the rest of the season to beat their regular season record. Regular season performance was the metric for Blake supporters.

Barring actually going past the first round, this season is starting to shape up to be a disaster.

Dunno, I have trouble calling an entertaining season watching Kings hockey a disaster....keep in mind, going off of 40 years watching with what, a handful of entertaining seasons? Maybe?

 

[King'sPawn]

Dunno, I have trouble calling an entertaining season watching Kings hockey a disaster....keep in mind, going off of 40 years watching with what, a handful of entertaining seasons? Maybe?

Sure. You can go into a casino with $1000, come out empty, and say you had fun gambling. Nobody's going to stop you.

But in a competitive league where winning matters, having less success despite spending more is generally an unsatisfying conclusion.

But good on you for enjoying it. So far, I can say it's been great watching Byfield grow and Kopitar make more Kings history. From an overall team standpoint, though, I have not enjoyed the product.

 

[BaileyFan]

Despite "an upgrade to goaltending" by losing Quick and Petersen, and despite "an upgrade to center" by trading for Dubois, the Kings would need to go 9-0 for the rest of the season to beat their regular season record. Regular season performance was the metric for Blake supporters.

Barring actually going past the first round, this season is starting to shape up to be a disaster.

Blake is only doing what he said he wanted to do all along which is turning the team into a Nashville type franchise. The Kings aren’t close to being a contender but they’ll easily make the playoffs as the 3rd seed or wildcard and given the state of the rest of the West, they’ll probably do the same for another couple seasons.

We clown on the exceptional individuals who say that they’d rather watch playoff hockey now than do a real rebuild and take “just get in and anything can happen” as gospel but we should admit that they’re far more in line with what the Kings current management actually wants.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Sure. You can go into a casino with $1000, come out empty, and say you had fun gambling. Nobody's going to stop you.

But in a competitive league where winning matters, having less success despite spending more is generally an unsatisfying conclusion.

But good on you for enjoying it. So far, I can say it's been great watching Byfield grow and Kopitar make more Kings history. From an overall team standpoint, though, I have not enjoyed the product.

Definite winning.....they are winning games.....not everyone goes 82-0....so are you talking playoff winning? Can we wait til we get there before we kill them at least?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Despite "an upgrade to goaltending" by losing Quick and Petersen, and despite "an upgrade to center" by trading for Dubois, the Kings would need to go 9-0 for the rest of the season to beat their regular season record. Regular season performance was the metric for Blake supporters.

Barring actually going past the first round, this season is starting to shape up to be a disaster.

I'm not gonna unblock the bootlickers but i will be curious what they say when we're objectively lower in the standings and likely objectively out sooner.

Like there's no metric where there's not a regression in the team, it's indefensible at this point unless it's blind faith/hopium. I won't hate on just wanting to believe in this team, but I will hate on people hating reasonable takes that this team has regressed, which the overwhelming mountain of evidence supports.

 

[bland]

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And as I usually point out, they all died.

 

[Schrute farms]

Despite "an upgrade to goaltending" by losing Quick and Petersen, and despite "an upgrade to center" by trading for Dubois, the Kings would need to go 9-0 for the rest of the season to beat their regular season record. Regular season performance was the metric for Blake supporters.

Barring actually going past the first round, this season is starting to shape up to be a disaster.

You are going to make a grown man cry....

 

[Nasti]

I'm not gonna unblock the bootlickers but i will be curious what they say when we're objectively lower in the standings and likely objectively out sooner.

Like there's no metric where there's not a regression in the team, it's indefensible at this point unless it's blind faith/hopium. I won't hate on just wanting to believe in this team, but I will hate on people hating reasonable takes that this team has regressed, which the overwhelming mountain of evidence supports.

Basically saying that the season has been entertaining and therefore, a success. It’s just a fundamental difference in what some fans want vs others. If you think the season has been entertaining, then no one will change your mind. Personally, I’ve had my fill of squeaking into the playoffs and being first round fodder to last me a lifetime. This season has hardly been entertaining, minus Byfield’s progression.

 

[bland]

Sure. You can go into a casino with $1000, come out empty, and say you had fun gambling. Nobody's going to stop you.

But in a competitive league where winning matters, having less success despite spending more is generally an unsatisfying conclusion.

But good on you for enjoying it. So far, I can say it's been great watching Byfield grow and Kopitar make more Kings history. From an overall team standpoint, though, I have not enjoyed the product.

We have a game in like 4 hours and nobody has cared enough to make a GDT. That's where the excitement level is at the moment.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Basically saying that the season has been entertaining and therefore, a success. It’s just a fundamental difference in what some fans want vs others. If you think the season has been entertaining, then no one will change your mind. Personally, I’ve had my fill of squeaking into the playoffs and being first round fodder to last me a lifetime. This season has hardly been entertaining, minus Byfield’s progression.

Not a long time fan? That's literally been the MO of the Kings absent 3 years.....and 1 year 30 years ago....

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Basically saying that the season has been entertaining and therefore, a success. It’s just a fundamental difference in what some fans want vs others. If you think the season has been entertaining, then no one will change your mind. Personally, I’ve had my fill of squeaking into the playoffs and being first round fodder to last me a lifetime. This season has hardly been entertaining, minus Byfield’s progression.

Oof, I mean to each his own but this system is NOT entertaining to me which is a shame because on paper this is the best personnel we've had since the Cup years.

I can appreciate it as a hockey nerd because I do love tight checking but this is far too passive a system applied far too often to be 'fun' hockey and its flaws have been exposed and magnified more and more as the seasons go on.

 

[tny760]

We have a game in like 4 hours and nobody has cared enough to make a GDT. That's where the excitement level is at the moment.

i was actually just about to make a post about this, not just the lack of GDT but how low i am on the team right now

even with the potential akil debut and maybe a real 4th line, got that impending doom feeling that vilardi's line is gonna shit on us again and we're gonna go home with our tails tucked again

 

[tigermask48]

i was actually just about to make a post about this, not just the lack of GDT but how low i am on the team right now

Whoever vs I Don't Know @ Wherever at Whenever

 

[King'sPawn]

Definite winning.....they are winning games.....not everyone goes 82-0....so are you talking playoff winning? Can we wait til we get there before we kill them at least?

Didn't this discussion come with me saying "barring getting out of the first round, this season will be a disaster..."? And you came in with "well actually it's been entertaining so far."

The team has spent more and got objectively worse in the regular season relative to their own past performance. You can be entertained by that. No judgment from me. Barring one or two individual storylines though, I'm not impressed or entertained.

If they can make it to the second round, at least there would be an entertaining redemption story for the team. If not, we're watching Groundhog Day without Bill Murray.

We have a game in like 4 hours and nobody has cared enough to make a GDT. That's where the excitement level is at the moment.

Generally Kingsboy11 does it. I assume his life outside of being a moderator is a factor. I know I get burnout at times when I go all in on my prospect videos and profiles. It's part of why I've been off and on even after coming back from break.

I don't disagree the product is unsatisfactory though.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Didn't this discussion come with me saying "barring getting out of the first round, this season will be a disaster..."? And you came in with "well actually it's been entertaining so far."

The team has spent more and got objectively worse in the regular season relative to their own past performance. You can be entertained by that. No judgment from me. Barring one or two individual storylines though, I'm not impressed or entertained.

If they can make it to the second round, at least there would be an entertaining redemption story for the team. If not, we're watching Groundhog Day without Bill Murray.


Generally Kingsboy11 does it. I assume his life outside of being a moderator is a factor. I know I get burnout at times when I go all in on my prospect videos and profiles. It's part of why I've been off and on even after coming back from break.

I don't disagree the product is unsatisfactory though.

Must have missed it, but yea, if they don't make it past round 2, I would hope everyone would be swept out, including Bergerin, worst thing happens if Blake goes and he stays.....but again, they are winning, they are in nearly every game, could be much worse, could be a fan of SJ, ANA, OTT, BUF, DET, NYI, MTL, etc.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I know Kingsboy11 mentioned he's been having a go lately, be sure to wish him well