GDT: 2023-24 season game 73 LA Kings vs Calgary Flames @7:00pm 3/30/24

[Sol]

How anyone can blame the teams lack of talent for these abysmal performances is truly mind blowing. Thankfully Blake and this ancient playstyle will likely be gone after the Kings crater again

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Every loss today is a win five years from now. Keep your eye on the prize.

 

[johnjm22]

With Danault out, this was a game where you need/expect PLD to step up. So much for that. Typical C- effort from him.

Also, big surprise, we're near the end of the season and Lizotte it beat up again. 2 for 12 on FO's tonight BTW.

So we were essentially a one center team tonight, and that center happens to be 36 years old.

 

[AbsentMojo]

Blakes poo poo soufle has officially collapsed. And, now we can add 11-7 to the other LAK failure numerology of 1-3-1 and 8-9-11

 

[Frolov 6'3]

Blues have one more win than the Kings. The difference is the 11 loser points the Kings have picked up.

Yes, and ?

That means the Kings are better than the Blues after 60 official minutes of play and deservedly are in front.
Last time I checked points are more important than wins.

 

[Herby]

Why can’t the Kings lack of talent be blamed?

Look around at what the contenders in this conference are trotting out there, you think the Kings can compete?

Edmonton has two hall-of-fame superstars in their primes, the highest scoring d-man in the league since the calendar turned and a 55-60 goal guy.

Vancouver has EP, Hughes, Miller, all going to be 90 point players.

Colorado has two 100+ point scorers, Makar and Mac both consensus top 8 players in the NHL.

The Kings leading goal-scorer is Trevor Moore. How many players on the Kings would be playing a 1st line role for any of the Top 10 teams in the NHL? This team has very serious lack of talent issues, I can't believe people would say otherwise.

 

[LAKings88]

The Kings players are defense first 200 foot lunch pale guys. It’s their DNA.

If they are somewhat electric it’s beaten out of them.

 

[RayMartyniukTotems]

can't wait for them to desperately rush danault back from IR

How long is he out for and how did he get injured?

 

[VerdadII]

And the Royals still gets 33 Million dollars a year from Canadian Tax payers just so they will visit and bestow their greatness on us...what a crock of shit...eat shit Royalty

The Royals are a symbol of manifest contibutions to Western civilivzation by the British Empire, most notably basic concepts of the rule of law, due process, and functional banking, not to mention the English language.
Cretin.

 

[Mattias]

Better start prepping your ears now.
“Dude, Dallas was just a brutal first round draw. It would’ve been competitive against literally any other team.”
“Bro, Danault was injured, name another team that would’ve won a series with their 2nd line center gone.”
“Blake took us from a lottery team to the playoffs faster than any rebuild ever. He deserves another chance. RUN IT BACK!”

You might be sarcastic, but that sounded like the last podcast from Mayors Manor. They were discussing how the Kings play can matchup and beat any team in the league.

The ole 1-3-1 psychosis.

 

[Trash Panda]

You might be sarcastic, but that sounded like the last podcast from Mayors Manor. They were discussing how the Kings play can matchup and beat any team in the league.

The ole 1-3-1 psychosis.

The Mayor is delusional.

The Kings simply do not have the horses to make their system work the way it should against good teams. There needs to be a shift in personnel, or a shift in system, otherwise there will just be continued mediocrity.

 

[Nasti]

How long is he out for and how did he get injured?

Day to day with an upper body injury. So probably out for the season with an ACL tear knowing this team.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

The past 3 games, a win, 2 losses, were all the same game, and it has nothing to do with talent, or systems, or skill. It has to do with the level of engagement, the attention to detail, and heart, and the Kings had NONE of those, and you will get beat by Sol's imaginary Peewee team, if you don't engagement, don't pay attention to detail, and don't bring heart to every game.

I can't answer why, but you can clearly see they weren't in there to win, shit they were barely in there to play.

 

[Reaper45]

Kings lack talent.
Kings lack physicality.

Kings top goal scorer has 26 goals, top point producer has a 3 way tie at 65. Let’s look at just the division -

Anaheim - Vatrano 30g and 52 points.
Calgary - Coleman 29g, Kadri 63 points. Edmonton - Ungodly numbers.
SJ - Terrible.
Vegas - Marschessault 40g, 63 points. Vancouver - Boeser 37g and Miller 92 points.

The Kings will be at the bottom of the division in a few years time. What a nightmare this “rebuild” has been.

The past 3 games, a win, 2 losses, were all the same game, and it has nothing to do with talent, or systems, or skill. It has to do with the level of engagement, the attention to detail, and heart, and the Kings had NONE of those, and you will get beat by Sol's imaginary Peewee team, if you don't engagement, don't pay attention to detail, and don't bring heart to every game.

I can't answer why, but you can clearly see they weren't in there to win, shit they were barely in there to play.

And the one common denominator through coaches and gm’s have been 11 & 8.

 

[Herby]

The past 3 games, a win, 2 losses, were all the same game, and it has nothing to do with talent, or systems, or skill. It has to do with the level of engagement, the attention to detail, and heart, and the Kings had NONE of those, and you will get beat by Sol's imaginary Peewee team, if you don't engagement, don't pay attention to detail, and don't bring heart to every game.

I can't answer why, but you can clearly see they weren't in there to win, shit they were barely in there to play.

But it’s hard to bring that level of commitment for 82 games a season, for any team in any sport. It has a lot to do with skill, because on nights when Colorado might not have it, you have Mac and Rantinen capable of taking over a game, same with Edmonton with their guys, Vancouver with theirs. The Kings just don't have players like this on the roster, so in order for the Kings to win games it takes a complete team effort and a total commitment to playing a physically demanding and unexciting type of hockey, because there is nobody on the roster taking over games just on their skill level.

Truthfully, if you did a ranking of just players in the Western Conf, how far down the list would you have to go before you ranked a Kings player? It's very clearly a problem because there has been a pretty consistent pattern to how to build a championship roster. I know you say "Many ways to build a team" but I will say this again, in my four decades on this planet, I have seen a lot more teams that won on the backs of Hall-of-Fame players in their primes than playing a collective defensive grind it out style.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

But it’s hard to bring that level of commitment for 82 games a season, for any team in any sport. It has a lot to do with skill, because on nights when Colorado might not have it, you have Mac and Rantinen capable of taking over a game, same with Edmonton with their guys, Vancouver with theirs. The Kings just don't have players like this on the roster, so in order for the Kings to win games it takes a complete team effort and a total commitment to playing a physically demanding and unexciting type of hockey, because there is nobody on the roster taking over games just on their skill level.

Truthfully, if you did a ranking of just players in the Western Conf, how far down the list would you have to go before you ranked a Kings player? It's very clearly a problem because there has been a pretty consistent pattern to how to build a championship roster. I know you say "Many ways to build a team" but I will say this again, in my four decades on this planet, I have seen a lot more teams that won on the backs of Hall-of-Fame players in their primes than playing a collective defensive grind it out style.

But that's the thing, when Colorado might not have it, they lose, when EDM might not have it, they lose, when Vancouver might not have it, they lose, when Vegas might not have it, they lose,

Depends on how you rank your players, I'd take Kopitar after the "stars" in the league ala MacKinnon, McDavid, Rantanen, Draisaitly etc, he's in the second tier for sure, but he's top C in the league still, I'd take Doughty over a lot of Dmen, I'd take Fiala as a top winger, Kempe as well Byfield, like I said, it really depends on how you rank your players,

Everyone is acting like having a McDavid, or a MacKinnon is a common thing, it's not.

 

[King'sPawn]

But that's the thing, when Colorado might not have it, they lose, when EDM might not have it, they lose, when Vancouver might not have it, they lose, when Vegas might not have it, they lose,

Depends on how you rank your players, I'd take Kopitar after the "stars" in the league ala MacKinnon, McDavid, Rantanen, Draisaitly etc, he's in the second tier for sure, but he's top C in the league still, I'd take Doughty over a lot of Dmen, I'd take Fiala as a top winger, Kempe as well Byfield, like I said, it really depends on how you rank your players,

Everyone is acting like having a McDavid, or a MacKinnon is a common thing, it's not.

I agree with you for the most part. I put Kopitar over most - but he's my favorite Kings player.

The MacKinnons and McDavids can help outscore some problems. But teams benefit from cohesion and execution. That's why this org's shift from "players have fun scoring, so we're going to score more" to "lol 1-3-1 makes those bitches salty" just suggests the organization itself can't adhere to a vision.

In a vacuum, a single move by Blake wouldn't look bad. Not the PLD trade, even. But it's the culmination of missteps and wheelspinning and backing themselves up against the cap that is the problem.

And what was the warning at the beginning of the season? Shorter roster will lead to more banged up players, especially with stretches of 2 games in 3 nights.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

I agree with you for the most part. I put Kopitar over most - but he's my favorite Kings player.

The MacKinnons and McDavids can help outscore some problems. But teams benefit from cohesion and execution. That's why this org's shift from "players have fun scoring, so we're going to score more" to "lol 1-3-1 makes those bitches salty" just suggests the organization itself can't adhere to a vision.

In a vacuum, a single move by Blake wouldn't look bad. Not the PLD trade, even. But it's the culmination of missteps and wheelspinning and backing themselves up against the cap that is the problem.

And what was the warning at the beginning of the season? Shorter roster will lead to more banged up players, especially with stretches of 2 games in 3 nights.

Agree about adhering to a vision, but I don't recall it ever being a we are going to have fun scoring more than most....unless you are talking about something from the start, and them recognizing that STILL doesn't work.....and changing?

But they haven't necessarily played with a shorter roster, even if you carry 21 players, you can still ONLY dress 20.....they have yet to play one game shorthanded like that.....

 

[chris kontos]

I agree with you for the most part. I put Kopitar over most - but he's my favorite Kings player.

The MacKinnons and McDavids can help outscore some problems. But teams benefit from cohesion and execution. That's why this org's shift from "players have fun scoring, so we're going to score more" to "lol 1-3-1 makes those bitches salty" just suggests the organization itself can't adhere to a vision.

In a vacuum, a single move by Blake wouldn't look bad. Not the PLD trade, even. But it's the culmination of missteps and wheelspinning and backing themselves up against the cap that is the problem.

And what was the warning at the beginning of the season? Shorter roster will lead to more banged up players, especially with stretches of 2 games in 3 nights.

Robitaille said in a statement early on that we want to ice a fast, uptempo style like the new nhl. Or close to that.
1-3-1 defensive grind looks alot closer to daryl sutter hockey than the new nhl.
There is a complete disconnect with the style and the personell to implement it.
Id put my money on the front office and mgmt throughout is simply incompetent.

 

[RocketKing]

I think its possible even with the easiest schedule amongst playoff teams

God willing

 

[King'sPawn]

Agree about adhering to a vision, but I don't recall it ever being a we are going to have fun scoring more than most....unless you are talking about something from the start, and them recognizing that STILL doesn't work.....and changing?

Yes. Blake said in the beginning of his tenure that players have fun scoring, and they want to play an up-tempo game that would be more fun for the players.

But they haven't necessarily played with a shorter roster, even if you carry 21 players, you can still ONLY dress 20.....they have yet to play one game shorthanded like that.....

Over the course of the season, there are fewer players getting reps in practice, meaning over the same time, the fewer players are getting more reps.

Compound that with not having young players you can trust due to a developmental disconnect, the vets end up being overplayed.

This isn't about icing fewer than 20 people in a game. In the regular season, there were shortened resources to manage a day-to-day roster. That wears on the resources.

They had some reprieve when Arvidsson was injured and they could go over the cap. But having several injuries is a normal thing to expect. The difference is that Blake put himself behind the 8 ball by limiting his resources to manage the roster efficiently throughthe injuries.

 

[RayMartyniukTotems]

When the Kings were winning they had 1 constant...A franchise goaltender...they had it with RVachon and JQuick! Besides that the defense was pretty solid right through the line up especially the Stanley Cup teams and we had guys who could score in the top 9 with the muckers and grinders on the 4th line...but the game has changed and the Kings have not done well with Cap Management with knucklehead Blake at the "switch"! He had/has no clue how to build a franchise and develop youngsters which is evident with the so few youngsters the Kings employ regularly

 

[RayMartyniukTotems]

The Royals are a symbol of manifest contibutions to Western civilivzation by the British Empire, most notably basic concepts of the rule of law, due process, and functional banking, not to mention the English language.
Cretin.

The great British Empire that has slaughtered Millions you mean on every continent!Yes the British are garbage

 

[RocketKing]

Kings hockey- Don't give up any shots and don't take any shots

Pierre Lacks Dick with 35 points. I figured 40 points would be a dissapoitment but this is a disaster.

My new new new name for Pierre is DuBoat, because the 2 best days of a Boat owners life are the day you Buy it and the day you SELL it

 

[RayMartyniukTotems]

The Royals are a symbol of manifest contibutions to Western civilivzation by the British Empire, most notably basic concepts of the rule of law, due process, and functional banking, not to mention the English language.
Cretin.

You do know the English language is made of German,Latin,Greek,French,Italian... so its not really a pure language but a mish mash