Speculation: 2023-24 Roster Thread

[DuckDuckGetz]

With Terry our only RFA that filed for arbitration, what exactly does that mean for us? Does that mean Terry’s contract isn’t close and the others are?

It means he was the only one eligible for arbitration lol

But really, it's one of those things that isn't that significant until it is. A bargaining tool. Lundestrom was our last player to file, and he's here.

 

[All Mighty]

With Terry our only RFA that filed for arbitration, what exactly does that mean for us? Does that mean Terry’s contract isn’t close and the others are?

Terry was the only one eligible for arbitration. It’s due to his service time or age or something like that. I don’t believe you can be arbitration-eligible coming off an ELC.

 

[DaGeneral]

With Terry our only RFA that filed for arbitration, what exactly does that mean for us? Does that mean Terry’s contract isn’t close and the others are?

I think it means they aren’t very close. They might be offering 6, but Terry’s camp is at 8. It’s a game of chicken, whoever blinks first loses

 

[dracom]

will it be reported what we're offering to Terry and what he's asking for?

 

[DavidBL]

will it be reported what we're offering to Terry and what he's asking for?

We don't typically hear that stuff. Generally neither agents or GMs like to negotiate in public by letting that type of thing out unless they feel the need to pressure the other party.

 

[TopShelfWaterBottle]

I could see him going shorter than eight years… mark my words he is finishing his career in Denver Colorado

 

[Ducks DVM]

It means he was the only one eligible for arbitration lol

But really, it's one of those things that isn't that significant until it is. A bargaining tool. Lundestrom was our last player to file, and he's here.

It means he has the right to file arbitration, he hadn’t come to an agreement with the team, and it would be malpractice by his agent to not file for it. It gives him leverage that he can walk himself right up to free agency if the team gives an insulting offer or tries to play hardball. It does NOT mean that the team HAS already given an insulting offer or has played hardball, it’s just making sure that he has access to a right that he’s earned.

Many players who have elected for arbitration sign contracts before arbitration actually occurs. arbitration is a really bad thing to happen for the player-team relationship.

 

[MMC]

Terry was the only one eligible for arbitration. It’s due to his service time or age or something like that. I don’t believe you can be arbitration-eligible coming off an ELC.

Its dependent on pro years completed (another way of saying service time). Varies by age signing first contract 18-20 is 4 years, 21 is 3, 22-23 is 2, and 24+ is 1.

Of our class, Terry needed 3, and hit that back after 2020-21. Zegras, Dostal, and Groulx need 4 and each have 3 years completed (1 away), and Drysdale also needs 4 but only has 2 completed pro years as he did not play 10 games last season due to injury

 

[McDonald19]

Filing for arbitration is just a formality in the process, in my opinion. I don’t think it means he’s any further away from signing a new contract than Z or Drysdale are.

 

[mightyquack]

Ironically Kulikov would have been the perfect signing for the defence this off-season and given us pretty good balance.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

will it be reported what we're offering to Terry and what he's asking for?

Dare to dream

 

[Leonardo87]

 

[Static]

will it be reported what we're offering to Terry and what he's asking for?

If they go to arbitration, yes, that will be public. It will be surprising if they actually make it to the meeting, though.

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

Convinced at this point that Terry is going to be the captain if he's extended long-term this offseason. Everyone from the top of the organization down through multiple management groups and coaching staffs universally praise the guy's maturity and leadership.

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

I wouldn’t mind Comtois and Benoit back with the way things are going.

Likely cheap and might be motivated to be more impactful. At Comtois worse I’d take him over Leason and McGinn and the D has like 3 actual NHLers at this point so a ton of spots there.

 

[Arthuros]

I wouldn’t mind Comtois and Benoit back with the way things are going.

Likely cheap and might be motivated to be more impactful. At Comtois worse I’d take him over Leason and McGinn and the D has like 3 actual NHLers at this point so a ton of spots there.

Agree with Benoit, disagree on Comtois. I just don't see him pulling himself together and giving a crap even though the non-QO should be a wake up call.

He had multiple shots at 1LW the past couple of seasons, and I'll grant you that he was injured for part of it, but all he did was...well, nothing.

Comtois is absolutely a better player than both Lesson and McGinn when he puts the effort in. Otherwise, he isn't good defensively, doesn't hustle, and doesn't hit. It's top-6 or nothing with him, and it's leaning heavily towards nothing.

 

[MMC]

I wouldn’t mind Comtois and Benoit back with the way things are going.

Likely cheap and might be motivated to be more impactful. At Comtois worse I’d take him over Leason and McGinn and the D has like 3 actual NHLers at this point so a ton of spots there.

Why would anyone want Comtois back?

 

[Gliff]

Why would anyone want Comtois back?

I would take him back on a 1xminimum and give him a shot. As soon as he pulls the shit he normally does burry him in the AHL or buy him out.

 

[MMC]

I would take him back on a 1xminimum and give him a shot. As soon as he pulls the shit he normally does burry him in the AHL or buy him out.

That sounds like a massive waste of everyone’s time

 

[91Fedorov]

I would take him back on a 1xminimum and give him a shot. As soon as he pulls the shit he normally does burry him in the AHL or buy him out.

I agree with this. A one year prove it at an AAV that could easily be sent to the minors or claimed off waivers. It's another dart to throw. Why not? I just wouldn't commit to him at all until it's earned.

 

[AngelDuck]

Comtois is not coming back here.

The team has moved on and I’m sure he’s ready for a new opportunity.

We’re pretty set on forwards unless a Henrique trade is coming before the season starts

Zegras
Terry
McTavish
Strome
Vatrano
Henrique
Jones
Lundestrom
Killorn
Nesterenko
McGinn
Carrick
Silfverberg

That’s 13 before Carlsson

Some of those guys are pretty terrible but Comtois has produced at a 22 point pace the last 2 seasons and has questions about his work ethic

 

[Leonardo87]

Agree with Benoit, disagree on Comtois. I just don't see him pulling himself together and giving a crap even though the non-QO should be a wake up call.

He had multiple shots at 1LW the past couple of seasons, and I'll grant you that he was injured for part of it, but all he did was...well, nothing.

Comtois is absolutely a better player than both Lesson and McGinn when he puts the effort in. Otherwise, he isn't good defensively, doesn't hustle, and doesn't hit. It's top-6 or nothing with him, and it's leaning heavily towards nothing.

I think there is a lot of concern with Comtois off-ice work ethics. If he was in Eakins doghouse must have been bad. We need some fresh blood in the line up.

 

[Gliff]

That sounds like a massive waste of everyone’s time

How so? It isn’t like other teams are jumping at signing him.

 

[MMC]

How so? It isn’t like other teams are jumping at signing him.

We know he sucks here, and we know his attitude is an issue that we don't want rubbing off on our kids on either pro level, but we should bring him back just because maybe he'll go back to being a 30 point player on a rebuilding team?

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

Why would anyone want Comtois back?

I think he'd play better with a different coach. He can hit which is more than you can say for Leason and McGinn and he has the ability to produce which is more than you can say for Carrick.