I'm tired of losing, I don't care about picking as high as possible anymore. We got Zegras at 9 and Mintyukov at 10... I trust our scouts drafting. Win as many games as possible going down the stretch. Hopefully they start winning more at home, it feels like Anaheim is a better road team (looks like they are, 8-18-1 at home, 10-13-1 on the road)
Speculation: 2023-24 Roster Thread
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- Jul 25, 2012
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at this draft im not sure there is much of a difference from 3 -15(celebrini and levshunov being the 2 best choices)
And there's even debate about Levshunov, there's a chance he lasts past 2 or 3 (I don't think he drops out of top 5)
Yeah, reminds of the 2020 draft a bit. Outside of top3, all seemed about equal. And turned out top3 was a bit different than expected as well, a few years in
So yeah, whatevs
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Idk why i thought Killorn was going to be out longer.... should be nice to have him back, seemed to be finding his game a bit before the injury.
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If that isn't enough to ignite some emotion in theses guys I don't know what is.
Best of luck and God bless you Sudsy!
Best of luck and God bless you Sudsy!
Not really a unique observation but one thing I've noticed over the past month or so is how our team just completely crumbles under any pressure - whether it's an aggressive forecheck/PK/man-on-man D or getting hemmed into the zone for just a few seconds too long, we let our opponents seize the momentum. And it's a vicious cycle because as it starts to happen it happens more and more in a game and then from game to game.
While I do think coaching/systems has a role in it, I think the bigger issue is that our roster is completely comprised of players who are either a) not skilled enough or b) not experienced enough. Off of the top of my head, I think Terry (when he's not off his game) and Silfverberg are the only two forwards who consistently play well in high-pressure scenarios, maybe Henrique or even Lundestrom.
As McTavish/Leo/Z get more experience I think it will improve but I also think things like breaking out of our zone will look vastly different as we turn over our roster and bring in some more experienced UFAs.
While I do think coaching/systems has a role in it, I think the bigger issue is that our roster is completely comprised of players who are either a) not skilled enough or b) not experienced enough. Off of the top of my head, I think Terry (when he's not off his game) and Silfverberg are the only two forwards who consistently play well in high-pressure scenarios, maybe Henrique or even Lundestrom.
As McTavish/Leo/Z get more experience I think it will improve but I also think things like breaking out of our zone will look vastly different as we turn over our roster and bring in some more experienced UFAs.
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The interesting choice going into next season is if Zegras is at wing or center. At center, he's on the third line. At wing, is it Carlsson or McTavish?
Gauthier/Killorn-Carlsson-xxx
Vatrano-McTavish-Terry
Killorn/Gauthier-Zegras-Strome
Johnston-Lundestrom-Leason/Regenda/etc...
Or
Gauthier/Killorn-Carlsson-xxx
Zegras-McTavish-Terry
Killorn/Gauthier-Strome-Vatrano
Johnston-Lundestrom-Leason/Regenda/etc...
There will obviously be different combinations but Zegras on the 3rd line just feels better to me. Finding an addition to the top 6, adding Gauthier, and everyone healthy should lead to better results.
Gauthier/Killorn-Carlsson-xxx
Vatrano-McTavish-Terry
Killorn/Gauthier-Zegras-Strome
Johnston-Lundestrom-Leason/Regenda/etc...
Or
Gauthier/Killorn-Carlsson-xxx
Zegras-McTavish-Terry
Killorn/Gauthier-Strome-Vatrano
Johnston-Lundestrom-Leason/Regenda/etc...
There will obviously be different combinations but Zegras on the 3rd line just feels better to me. Finding an addition to the top 6, adding Gauthier, and everyone healthy should lead to better results.
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Zegras is top 6. Putting him on the 3rd line just reduces his time on ice and effectiveness.
I would try to get him as much ice time as possible so stick him with Carlsson and Gauthier. If that doesn't work he is with McTavish and Terry. He will be very useful as a fill in top 6 C when someone gets injured.
Yeah, Zegras is needed in an offensive role, otherwise it's just misusing him. He should play 16-20 mins every night.
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bingo - but 5 (?) years of terrible experience and coaching will do that to a team
You can do that with 3 scoring lines. Each getting 16-17 minutes. Leaves 10-12 for the 4th line.
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We're just a really young team overall. Looking at our roster, all you really see is a lot of potential mixed with a lot of guys past their prime (plus the usual plugs like Johnston, Jones, Groulx, etc.).
Take a look at the top point producers in the NHL right now and the vast majority of them are 26-30 years old, along with your "generational" outliers like Hughes/Bedard/etc. All of our most promising, core players are 19-22 years old and extremely green. The only guy on our entire roster that I would say is in his prime right now is Terry at 26.
I know a lot of fans are sick of losing, and I'm sure the coaching and roster construction could be improved. But we still have a long ways to go.
IMO, you move Z to wing and let him play center if there's injuries. I want to see next year's lineup built around our top 4 forwards.
Vatrano - McTavish - Terry
Zegras - Carlsson - Strome
That should be the top 6 for sure IMO when healthy. Maybe swap Strome with another player on a few shifts, but this should be our top 6 IMO. Bottom 6 gets tricky, but here's where I'd go:
Kilorn - UFA/Trade - Regenda
Johnson - Lundestrom - Leason
Vatrano - McTavish - Terry
Zegras - Carlsson - Strome
That should be the top 6 for sure IMO when healthy. Maybe swap Strome with another player on a few shifts, but this should be our top 6 IMO. Bottom 6 gets tricky, but here's where I'd go:
Kilorn - UFA/Trade - Regenda
Johnson - Lundestrom - Leason
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Personally I think Z is a better center outside of faceoffs than Mctavish at this point. I'd like to see Mctavish-Z-Vatrano tried a bit to end this year.
Next year there is no reason not to have one of Z/Carlsson with one of Cutter/Terry. Put the best playmakers with the best goalscorers. Z and Leo with Strome is asking for frustration.
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Z has always struggled when put at W and played much better when put at C.
I see three options:
Mac plays wing
One of Z/Mac gets traded
One of Z/Mac plays 3c
I see three options:
Mac plays wing
One of Z/Mac gets traded
One of Z/Mac plays 3c
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I actually agree.
And i think his defensive game can be improved and will be improved. And i think faceoffs is something he can be pretty efficient at with a little more strength and focus on that area.
Id love to get him working with kesler in the offseason or something.
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I wouldn't want Stroke in the top 6 if we can help it.
Z in the middle:
Vatrano - McTavish - Terry
Killorn - Carlsson - Cutter
Regenda - Zegras - Stroke
Johnston/Jones - Lundestrom - Leason
Z on the wing:
Vatrano - McTavish - Terry
Killorn - Carlsson - Zegras
Cutter - Stroke - Regenda
Johnston/Jones - Lundestrom - Leason
Maybe it's just me but I don't have much faith in any of the forwards in SD actually becoming NHL players. Is Regenda even signed beyond this season?
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