2023-24 Roster Thread 2: The Days Get Longer Edition

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

2023 NHL Draft order set through 1st 28 picks | NHL.com

Remaining 4 spots to be determined by conference finals, Stanley Cup Final

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The final order of the first round will be set after the Stanley Cup Final.

2023 FIRST ROUND DRAFT ORDER​

1. Chicago Blackhawks
2. Anaheim Ducks
3. Columbus Blue Jackets
4. San Jose Sharks
5. Montreal Canadiens
6. Arizona Coyotes
7. Philadelphia Flyers
8. Washington Capitals
9. Detroit Red Wings
10. St. Louis Blues
11. Vancouver Canucks
12. Arizona Coyotes (from Ottawa Senators)
13. Buffalo Sabres
14. Pittsburgh Penguins
15. Nashville Predators
16. Calgary Flames
17. Detroit Red Wings (from New York Islanders via Vancouver Canucks)
18. Winnipeg Jets
19. Chicago Blackhawks (from Tampa Bay Lightning)
20. Seattle Kraken
21. Minnesota Wild
22. Columbus Blue Jackets (from Los Angeles Kings)
23. New York Rangers
24. Nashville Predators (from Edmonton Oilers)
25. St. Louis Blues (from Toronto Maple Leafs)
26. San Jose Sharks (from New Jersey Devils)
27. Colorado Avalanche
28. Toronto Maple Leafs (from Boston Bruins via Washington Capitals)

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[SolidSnakeUS]

Please fall to 7, Michkov. Please.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Please fall to 7, Michkov. Please.

so we can see him never come over ?

cuz you know itll happen

 

[dgaspari]

Please fall to 7, Michkov. Please.

Hope is not a strategy!!!
a team has to know what assets are available to build a roster. hoping Michkov might show up, makes planning impossible.

 

[DAVIDE1333]

so we can see him never come over ?

cuz you know itll happen

No. So the Flyers can pass on him and get drafted by the Caps.

 

[Curufinwe]

Please fall to 7, Michkov. Please.

Flyers would pass and let the Caps take him.

Then Ovechkin's pal Putin makes a special exception to get him over here.

 

[BiggE]

Flyers would pass and let the Caps take him.

Then Ovechkin's pal Putin makes a special exception to get him over here.

I actually think something like this is very possible, but I think it will be San Jose trading 4 to Washington for 8 plus other picks/prospects.

 

[Rebels57]

Flyers would pass and let the Caps take him.

Then Ovechkin's pal Putin makes a special exception to get him over here.

I've been thinking the Caps make a strong play for Michkov too. Hopefully the GMs ahead of them aren't stupid enough to gift him to them.

 

[Redpath]

I've been thinking the Caps make a strong play for Michkov too. Hopefully the GMs ahead of them aren't stupid enough to gift him to them.

If the Caps are able to make a play for him, i.e trade up, so should we.

 

[Curufinwe]

We only have one Russian and he should be traded before the draft. Doesn't seem like a real destination for Michkov in the same way Washington is with AO as captain.

 

[Columbus Hockey Dad]

I think there's an outside chance that Carlsson falls to 4 or even 5. If so, I pray we trade up to grab him.

 

[ajgoal]

IIRC, trades of top-10 picks rarely occur leading up to or at the draft like they do in the NFL. GMs are more likely to reach for a player they like rather than trade down to pick up an asset.

 

[BiggE]

IIRC, trades of top-10 picks rarely occur leading up to or at the draft like they do in the NFL. GMs are more likely to reach for a player they like rather than trade down to pick up an asset.

Yup. When top 10 picks are moved, it’s usually for an established NHL player.

 

[ajgoal]

Yup. When top 10 picks are moved, it’s usually for an established NHL player.

Looks like the last time a pure pick trade happened in the top 10 was in 2008. And it happened twice.

Now Michkov's status might be the thing that bucks the trend, but you have to wonder how much teams willing to trade up will be assuming he just continues to fall and ask, "why bother?"

 

[Rebels57]

IIRC, trades of top-10 picks rarely occur leading up to or at the draft like they do in the NFL. GMs are more likely to reach for a player they like rather than trade down to pick up an asset.

Because NHL GM's are chicken-shit

 

[Curufinwe]

Looks like the last time a pure pick trade happened in the top 10 was in 2008. And it happened twice.

But the 11th pick was traded just a few years ago.

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[ajgoal]

Because NHL GM's are chicken-shit

Absolutely. They cling to those top-10 picks like their life depends on it. Nevermind the value proposition of trading back.

 

[Redpath]

We only have one Russian and he should be traded before the draft. Doesn't seem like a real destination for Michkov in the same way Washington is with AO as captain.

F*** that. The draft isn't about a player's preferred destination. If the team's assessment is that the Michkov hype is worthy, we need to make a play for him if that's on the table.

 

[Curufinwe]

The value of trading #11 for #14 was #45.

 

[Columbus Hockey Dad]

Carter Hart and #7 to Montreal for #5 and their FLA 1st (29-32) if Carlsson is still there. Who says no?

 

[dragonoffrost]

Carter Hart and #7 to Montreal for #5 and their FLA 1st (29-32) if Carlsson is still there. Who says no?

Probably Montreal. They do like Cayden Primeau.

 

[renberg]

I wouldn't discount the idea of the Wings trying to get Michkov if he were there at 4. Federov is "advising" him on his future. That and the history of Red Wings and Russians might give Detroit and edge in bringing him over.

 

[Curufinwe]

A good example of Torts' inability to see past his expanding gut is the fact that Tippett got twice as much PK time as Frost.

Tippett was one the ice for a incredible 10 goals against in only 30:48.

Frost was on the ice for just two goals against in 15:46.

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[BiggE]

A good example of Torts' inability to see past his expanding gut is the fact that Tippett got twice as much PK time as Frost.

Tippett was one the ice for a incredible 10 goals against in only 30:48.

Frost was on the ice for just two goals against in 15:46.

Player Season Totals - Natural Stat Trick

The amount of ice time that Torts gave Tippett down the stretch was ridiculous. I mean you’d think he was the 2nd coming of Gordie Howe by the way Torts used him.

 

[Beef Invictus]

His absolute favorite players were a dude who'd be a 3rd liner on a good team and a guy who is probably a 4th line winger on a good team, instead of a top 6 center here.