Boston Bruins 2023-24 Roster and Salary Cap Discussion VII

[TobanWest]

Yesterday.

I can't see Bergeron being a guy to return after retiring.

It has to be BS. That crew eh...

 

[Sheppy]

It has to be BS. That crew eh...

They just said he was practicing hard and wondering if he's prepping for a return.

That crew is fine, they know quite a bit and have buddies around the game all over.

 

[TobanWest]

They just said he was practicing hard and wondering if he's prepping for a return.

That crew is fine, they know quite a bit and have buddies around the game all over.

I have a hard time with Biz more than anything. Definitely connected. Would love to see a Bergy return for playoffs then join the coaching staff or front office... One can dream

 

[dugg133]

Ryan Whitney & Bisonnete reporting on their Spittin Chickets podcast that rumors buzzing that Bergeron potentially plotting a return to the Bruins this season. Apparently he’s been skating a ton locally. Some suggested it’s to stay fresh for alumni games. They aren’t buying it. Just saw it on the socials, don’t know how to link it here. They’re not exactly solid sources.

I don't think him skating is really much of a story. He did an interview with a French language newspaper recently where he talked about his retired life and he seems content. He did say he was doing skates on Fridays, but that was more him missing the comradery of the locker room so he started inviting other retired guys like McQuaid, Raycroft, and Tuukka. Also said he tried to get Chara but he's too busy running marathons lol.

Seems like the Chiclets crew latched on to that bit about him skating and are making a mountain out of a molehill.

 

[Kegs]

It wouldn’t shock me at all if he came back. He always starts the season healthy and muscles through injuries all year. Maybe this year he plans to come back for the playoffs.

 

[NeelyDan]

I'll confidently say that I believe 37 will come back for a run

 

[zaYG]

Bruins Vatrano, Thornton, Seguin, Wheeler, Kessel, Eriksson, Hamilton... Pretty good team of castaways right there.

 

[CellyHard]

I can’t imagine they’d cut bait a half season into that deal. Terrible asset management and far too quick.

But what the hell is going on there? I just assumed he was part of the Kings’ success this year. Helping drive it. Dude is on the third line.

I don’t think they’re on the buyout route. But they have to be shocked and disappointed. That’s an awful start.

Beats me. He’s been brutal for them since the start. He’s also been very poor defensively and getting substantially less ice time than in Winnipeg

The crazy thing is his buyout isn’t all that bad….A little over a million for the last 7 years

You would have to think if he doesn’t turn it around by the end of the year it’s a discussion at the minimum

 

[dugg133]

This will surely go over great but would anyone consider taking on PLD for basically free at this point? He has a NMC that kicks in next year so there could actually be a chance the Kings want to move him before that

Or better yet, would you take him on a short term deal if he’s bought out? He’s 25 so I’m pretty sure the buyout is lower for under 26 year olds

Crazy as it sounds, either case could be possible

I think there's a negative chance the Kings give up on him this soon into a big long term deal after trading a haul for him.

 

[NDiesel]

I'll confidently say that I believe 37 will come back for a run

What kind of run? Coffee run? Marathon? Don't think it'll be for a cup run

 

[TobanWest]

Not sure what this means? Loui Eriksson, for Bruin, traded, played in an all star game. Which is what we were discussing.
I might suggest head and shoulders if your head continues to be itchy

 

[Mione134]

Frank Vatrano is an NHL All Star. Huh.

Yep. He's been good for years. Really stepped up this year. Could be a trade option.

 

[Patdud]

Ryan Whitney & Bisonnete reporting on their Spittin Chickets podcast that rumors buzzing that Bergeron potentially plotting a return to the Bruins this season. Apparently he’s been skating a ton locally. Some suggested it’s to stay fresh for alumni games. They aren’t buying it. Just saw it on the socials, don’t know how to link it here. They’re not exactly solid sources.

I said it in another thread the "return of the champion" night is the day before the deadline. read into that as you will...

 

[Sheppy]

I said it in another thread the "return of the champion" night is the day before the deadline. read into that as you will...

It's also the 3 month and 7th day.

37

 

[jgatie]

Not sure what this means? Loui Eriksson, for Bruin, traded, played in an all star game. Which is what we were discussing.
I might suggest head and shoulders if your head continues to be itchy

I think what the poster means is Loui Eriksson's production fell off a cliff after he left the Bruins:

2015–16	Boston Bruins	NHL	82	30	33	63	12	—	—	—	—	—
2016–17	Vancouver Canucks	NHL	65	11	13	24	8	—	—	—	—	—
2017–18	Vancouver Canucks	NHL	50	10	13	23	4	—	—	—	—	—
2018–19	Vancouver Canucks	NHL	81	11	18	29	22	—	—	—	—	—
2019–20	Vancouver Canucks	NHL	49	6	7	13	12

Going from 30G 63P to averaging ~10G and 20 or so points is not what I'd call on a par with what Vatrano, Thornton, Seguin, Wheeler, Kessel, and Hamilton did post-Bruins.

 

[CellyHard]

I think there's a negative chance the Kings give up on him this soon into a big long term deal after trading a haul for him.

I think you’re underestimating just how bad he’s been this year.

He’s a -11 and the next closest is -4

JVR is outscoring him in almost 10 less games who makes 1/8th less

He’s closer to producing to a guy like Heinen except playing the worse defense on the team

Committing to him solely based off the price you paid for him is the definition of sunk cost fallacy

 

[TobanWest]

I think what the poster means is Loui Eriksson's production fell off a cliff after he left the Bruins:

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Going from 30G 63P to averaging ~10G and 20 or so points is not what I'd call on a par with what Vatrano, Thornton, Seguin, Wheeler, Kessel, and Hamilton did post-Bruins.

Was referring to ex Bruins that went to the all Star game. Loui's production fell off after for sure but was a pretty good player while here

 

[jgatie]

Was referring to ex Bruins that went to the all Star game. Loui's production fell off after for sure but was a pretty good player while here

I think the point was all those players went on to perform better than they did here, except Loui, who's numbers dropped like a stone. Hence the scratching head smilie for him.

 

[UncleRico]

I hate when players retire and comeback. Either stay retired or don’t retire in the first place

 

[Number8]

Ryan Whitney & Bisonnete reporting on their Spittin Chickets podcast that rumors buzzing that Bergeron potentially plotting a return to the Bruins this season. Apparently he’s been skating a ton locally. Some suggested it’s to stay fresh for alumni games. They aren’t buying it. Just saw it on the socials, don’t know how to link it here. They’re not exactly solid sources.

I saw him do the PWHL announcement and good lord the boy looks fit.

I kind of doubt it, but I will keep my fingers firmly crossed. That would be a game changer, no doubt!!!!!

 

[Number8]

Bruins Vatrano, Thornton, Seguin, Wheeler, Kessel, Eriksson, Hamilton... Pretty good team of castaways right there.

Yes, but outside of Phil (and Seguins rookie win with Boston), no Cup winners. Am i right In that?

None of those guys scream Mark Recchi type warriors. Except again Phil. Not a warrior but three cups is three cups.

 

[bbfan419]

The problem with this is do Gryz or Forbort have any value. I feel Gryz would have been moved long ago if he had any value .
Carlo is not a D-man the Bruins should consider moving .

Gryz on the other hand. I feel would be moved quickly if there was a market for him . How valuable is 3,687,500 of cap space ? This is the problem IMO with trying to move him, his cap space is more valuable than Gryz is as a player.

We'll see I guess, but there are always teams looking for D and Gryz does have some value for teams looking for a PMD, plus he is a UFA after this year, so no long term commitment.

 

[TobanWest]

Yes, but outside of Phil (and Seguins rookie win with Boston), no Cup winners. Am i right In that?

None of those guys scream Mark Recchi type warriors. Except again Phil. Not a warrior but three cups is three cups.

Not arguing with anyone. Was just mentioning solid talent that were sent packing that have played in the all Star game. Regardless of cup wins their is some solid talent.

 

[bob77]

So, you send down Lohrei and keep Gryz at 7 if you can’t trade him. You go with

McAvoy
Lindholm
Forbort
Shattenkirk
Wotherspoon
Carlo

McAvoy will eat large minutes. So you’re looking at balancing time and situations where Forbort, Wotherspoon, or Lindholm play with him.

Same thought w Lindholm. W Shattenkirk, Carlo, and McAvoy.

I think you start with these 6 and figure out what pairs to avoid ever having together.

 

[The don godfather]

Bergy
Coyle
Zacha
Geekie

That would be solid down the middle. Hope Bergy returns.