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Boston Bruins 2023-24 Roster and Salary Cap Discussion V

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I think for this season it is what it is. They've started hot and now are faltering in big games against good teams. The goalies have covered the warts, top two centres have tried hard but are in the wrong spots, rookies are ok but not dominating, depth needed on D and the only true grit they had is in court.
Cap problems make it difficult to make any impactful move without trading a goalie, which they won't. Will be a long season and they should make the playoffs but won't go too far as current constructed. Next year is a different story but not sure I will like what they spend the money on. Hopefully I'm wrong.
 
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Bruins need some physicality and they need it asap. If Looch is done with this group, then go get someone who can take his place. Tired of this team being soft as fuh for this many years. Its not Bruins hockey to get pushed around, we're supposed to be the ones pushing people around. "oh but who are you going to replace, you can't take Lauko/Steen/Heinen/Geekie/ etc out of the line up"........gimme a break, I'd sit all of them tomorrow if I could

Would love E. Kane here. He can score, and he's tough as nails!
 
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DaStinger said:
All offseason we heard how they were going to make the team more physical. I see no results here.
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Don’t believe what you hear even if it’s from management.

Sweeney spent his end of the year meeting telling the fans the team was going to get younger and build around the young core.

They ended up getting .2 years older and just signing a bunch of 1 year deals and one 2year deal in geekie.


It’s resulted in a good product to start the year, don’t get me wrong. But it is very different from the plan management laid out in June.
 
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Dizzay said:
Bruins need some physicality and they need it asap. If Looch is done with this group, then go get someone who can take his place. Tired of this team being soft as fuh for this many years. Its not Bruins hockey to get pushed around, we're supposed to be the ones pushing people around. "oh but who are you going to replace, you can't take Lauko/Steen/Heinen/Geekie/ etc out of the line up"........gimme a break, I'd sit all of them tomorrow if I could

Would love E. Kane here. He can score, and he's tough as nails!
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No to Kane. Agree with everything else.
 
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UncleRico said:
Don’t believe what you hear even if it’s from management.

Sweeney spent his end of the year meeting telling the fans the team was going to get younger and build around the young core.

They ended up getting .2 years older and just signing a bunch of 1 year deals and one 2year deal in geekie.


It’s resulted in a good product to start the year, don’t get me wrong. But it is very different from the plan management laid out in June.
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They also said that they were going to get more physical this season. How's that working out?
 
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UncleRico said:
Don’t believe what you hear even if it’s from management.

Sweeney spent his end of the year meeting telling the fans the team was going to get younger and build around the young core.

They ended up getting .2 years older and just signing a bunch of 1 year deals and one 2year deal in geekie.


It’s resulted in a good product to start the year, don’t get me wrong. But it is very different from the plan management laid out in June.
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I mean he has added Beecher, Poitras, Lauko full time, some playing time for Lohrei, and theres a good chance Lysell gets a look at some point too...I'd say that's quite a nice infusion of youth, with additions in Geekie and Mitchell only being 25 years old. Not sure how many more rookies are viable in the lineup, were you expecting 8 rookies to be playing?
 
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This was as of 11/25/23
 
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Dizzay said:
Bruins need some physicality and they need it asap. If Looch is done with this group, then go get someone who can take his place. Tired of this team being soft as fuh for this many years. Its not Bruins hockey to get pushed around, we're supposed to be the ones pushing people around. "oh but who are you going to replace, you can't take Lauko/Steen/Heinen/Geekie/ etc out of the line up"........gimme a break, I'd sit all of them tomorrow if I could

Would love E. Kane here. He can score, and he's tough as nails!
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Ok that’s a bit over five million in cap. Including Gryz in a trade and replacing him with Lorhei still leaves you needing to find around a little less than 3 more. Dumping Geekie and replacing him with an ELC gets you a million closer. Maybe swap out Forbort for another ELC guy?

Or maybe instead of all that you move out DeBrusk and replace Geekie with an ELC?

Or maybe you move out Ullmark?

Do any of those moves make the Bruins better?
 
Last year they went all in and busted. This year was expected to be a bridge year. I think the great start has raised expectations again, but they really just need to stick to their plan. Figure out who isn’t going to be here next year or going forward and replace them if possible.

Personally, I’d like to see bangers brought in. But they have to be guys that fit going forward.
 
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Lost two matinee games. I’m more ion coaching and leadership for not having their guys ready to go then panic about how we are really just a bad team against better competition. And I’m the ultimate panic guy. Team won everything ever last year and it didn’t matter. For the last few years we have been the team that embarrass top teams on a Saturday afternoon. Most of those teams have had more playoff success than us. Let’s chill. Enjoy the ride.
 
Dizzay said:
Bruins need some physicality and they need it asap. If Looch is done with this group, then go get someone who can take his place. Tired of this team being soft as fuh for this many years. Its not Bruins hockey to get pushed around, we're supposed to be the ones pushing people around. "oh but who are you going to replace, you can't take Lauko/Steen/Heinen/Geekie/ etc out of the line up"........gimme a break, I'd sit all of them tomorrow if I could

Would love E. Kane here. He can score, and he's tough as nails!
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You have made some good points until you brought Kanes name into it, after The Luccic problems you want to bring in that dirt bag, sorry I am out with that one. Sorry to bring Luccic into this hope he is getting help and for his sake and more importantly his family.
 
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kdog82 said:
Lost 2 in a row and FULL PANIC MODE!!

Breathe people its a long season. Next 2 games should be dubs.
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I don't think it's panic mode, I think it's stating the holes that are becoming more apparent as the season goes on. I don't think the majority of this fanbase thinks the Bruins letting in 12 goals in two games is the norm or that they can't be better defensively.
Hookslide said:
No to Kane.
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Bruins can use someone with Kane's or Hyman's skillset. It doesn't have to be either of those players, but I think it would be beneficial to have a player like that on this roster.
 
Friedman on 32 Thoughts today says he's heard that the Bruins have "poked around" on Patrick Kane. "It's a way to add to their team without using capital."
 
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Friedman on 32 Thoughts today says he's heard that the Bruins have "poked around" on Patrick Kane. "It's a way to add to their team without using capital."
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If he can be gotten on a short term/money deal, I'd be good with it. But I don't care to see them give him any kind of term without a good trial period first. It seems like moves would need to be made first anyway, depending on what Kane is looking for I guess, so there is probably not a lot of fire here.
 
First it’s literally insane to suggest Kane after whatever is happening with Lucic. I can’t even process that line of thinking.



Second - I think our center play has been more than adequate and our issues reside with the wingers. Starting with Marchand not fitting with Zacha/Pasta and Jake’s extended cold streak, we’ve had a lot of square peg round hole situations in the top 9. And even though the Coyle line has been our most consistent, that problem even extends there. If that’s the only place JVR can be effective, it hamstrings our lineup going forward even if the production has been good.



Also and I love Heinen- but that dude cannot play another game as a regular in the top 9. I’d much rather try Merkulov or Lysell or explore options outside the org. Heinen is so responsible and he finds great spots to be in so often …but his stick is allergic to scoring goals and just can’t be a fixture for this team.



Lastly - I need a few more games before I ditch anyone on D. We are good. Yeah we struggled at the end of the Lohrei experience because he literally doesn’t understand positioning and yeah Gryz looked rough but they’ve been too consistently effective for 17 games to panic after 2-3.
 
JayMark said:
They also said that they were going to get more physical this season. How's that working out?
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It's not.

They have not been anything close to a physical team, never mind physically intimidating, since Sweeney became GM. It should be apparent after EIGHT seasons that he doesn't value team wide physicality. He just doesn't. And nothing has changed in that regard this season.

As KPD notes in his article about the lack of response to Trouba, team toughness is a group effort. The blithely dismissed Peter Chiarelli built that kind of roster, and I could rattle off at least five guys on his teams that were willing and able to dish it out. You didn't mess with the Bruins back then, and their "nasty," as Uncle Milty might say, gave them an element of intimidation and a swagger wholly absent from Sweeney's "Detroit Red Wings of the late '90s" model.

Look no further than 2019, when a heavy, punishing Blues club ground the Bruins into dust. The FLA series was instructive as well.

And now with Milan unlikely to return, they're going to turn to Trent Frederic to be their policeman?

Please.

Sweeney has done some very good things as GM of the Boston Bruins.

Prioritizing, establishing and sustaining team toughness does not make that list.
 
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GordonHowe said:
It's not.

They have not been anything close to a physical team, never mind physically intimidating, since Sweeney became GM. It should be apparent after EIGHT seasons that he doesn't value team wide physicality. He just doesn't. And nothing has changed in that regard this season.

As KPD notes in his article about the lack of response to Trouba, team toughness is a group effort. The blithely dismissed Peter Chiarelli built that kind of roster, and I could rattle off at least five guys on his teams that were willing and able to dish it out. You didn't mess with the Bruins back then, and their "nasty," as Uncle Milty might say, gave them an element of intimidation and a swagger wholly absent from Sweeney's "Detroit Red Wings of the late '90s" model.

Look no further than 2019, when a heavy, punishing Blues club ground the Bruins into dust. The FLA series was instructive as well.

And now with Milan unlikely to return, they're going to turn to Trent Frederic to be their policeman?

Please.

Sweeney has done some very good things as GM of the Boston Bruins.

Prioritizing, establishing and sustaining team toughness does not make that list.
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I like the team make up. They're in the top 5 "heavy - height" category. IMO this team has the mental toughness/fortitude to go the distance.

Finding a semi skilled Lucic replacement is near impossible. Finding a plug like Reaves is easy and a waste of space.
 
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