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This season I'll just update the first post each Monday instead of a copy/paste of a table each time.

+ = on IR or just hurt
# = season complete

PLAYERPOSACQUIREDHFB RANKTEAMGPGAPTSPIM+/-
William DufourRW2020 round 5 #1521Bridgeport Islanders5215102529-12
Samuel BolducD2019 round 2 #572New York Islanders331236-5
Bridgeport Islanders510122
Matthew MaggioRW2022 round 5 #1423Bridgeport Islanders581692520-2
Simon HolmstromRW/LW2019 round 1 #234New York Islanders721492314-1
Danny Nelson #C2023 round 2 #495Univ. of Notre Dame3091423325
USA U20711204
Ruslan IskhakovC/LW2018 round 2 #436Bridgeport Islanders6717314830-16
Tyce ThompsonRWTradeUtica Comets15055124
Bridgeport Islanders473101354-19
Calle OdeliusD2022 round 2 #658Djugardens IF1004420
Djugardens IF (Playoffs)201120
Sweden U2080118-
Robin SaloD2017 round 2 #469Bridgeport Islanders645182322-12
Isaiah GeorgeD2022 round 4 #9810London Knights68624305426
London (Playoffs)412305
Alex JefferiesLW2020 round 4 #12111Merrimack College22131023191
Bridgeport Islanders83140-1
Eetu LiukasLW2021 round 5 #15712Bridgeport Islanders4534734-13
Quinn Finley #LW2022 round 3 #7813Univ. of Wisconsin359615164
USA U20711202
Jesse Nurmi #LW2023 round 4 #11314KooKoo190222-7
KooKoo U2064480-2
Finland U2060220-
Aleksi Malinen #D2021 round 6 #18915TJYP150220-3
Zach Schulz #D2023 round 6 #177HM1Univ. of Wisconsin3324664
Cameron Berg #C2021 round 4 #125HM2Univ. of North Dakota4020173787
Daylan KueflerLW2022 round 6 #174HM3Worcester Railers175389-4
Bridgeport Islanders1933637-1
Aidan FulpDUFABridgeport Islanders4714514-19
Justin GillC2023 round 5 #145Baie-Comeau Drakkar654058986657
Baie-Comeau (Playoffs)434724
Dennis Good Bogg #D2023 round 7 #209AIK J201814545-5
AIK1001101
Vallentuna Hockey701110-1
Brodernas/Vasby40002-2
Östersunds IK80116-4
Östersunds IK (Playoffs)100000
Alexander Ljungkrantz #LW/RW2020 round 3 #90Almtuna IS442012328-7
Farjestad BK80000-1
Travis MitchellDUFABridgeport Islanders3413436-6
Reece NewkirkC2019 round 5 #147Bridgeport Islanders1512321
Worcester Railers1054924
Matias RajaniemiD2020 round 6 #183SaiPa5308818-24
Bridgeport Islanders000000
GOALIESGPGAASV%SOW-L-T
Tristan LennoxG2021 round 3 #9315TWorcester Railers132.94.90905-6-1
Jakub SkarekG2018 round 3 #72Bridgeport Islanders343.15.89007-21-5
Henrik TikkanenG2020 round 7 #214Currently UFABridgeport Islanders162.17.92707-5-2
Worcester Railers183.25.890010-6-1
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IslesNorway said:
Isles have missed the playoff for three straight seasons, according to McKeens. Time to put some effort into proofreading, maybe?
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I read that and thought I was seeing things.

I know the Islanders aren't a sexy team to follow but does anyone at McKeens proofread???
 
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JTToilinginToronto said:
George just doesn't have the offensive instincts to be a really highly rated prospect.

His floor is AHL fodder. His ceiling is probably a very good third pairing and PK guy. Think Mayfield but one who can skate well.
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I may be biased, as I loved George in his draft year, but I think the sky is the limit for him.

His offense never blew up the way it was supposed to in his junior career, but there are flashes of brilliance there. Defensively, he's already NHL-caliber, but will need to spend time in Bridgeport to get adjusted to not only the pro game, but to find his offensive touch.
 

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Skip To My Lou said:
I may be biased, as I loved George in his draft year, but I think the sky is the limit for him.

His offense never blew up the way it was supposed to in his junior career, but there are flashes of brilliance there. Defensively, he's already NHL-caliber, but will need to spend time in Bridgeport to get adjusted to not only the pro game, but to find his offensive touch.
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I mean, I hope you're right. But there isn't really much to say he has a high offensive potential. He's an overager in juniors and still couldn't put up 1/2 PPG this season. It's only going to get tougher in the AHL and hopefully for him (and us) the NHL.

Sure, anything could happen, but realistically, he's probably not going to be an offensive force from the blue line.

If he can turn into a Scott Mayfield type with good skating ability, I think most reasonable Islanders fans would take that as a W considering he was a 4th round pick.
 
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Skip To My Lou said:
I may be biased, as I loved George in his draft year, but I think the sky is the limit for him.

His offense never blew up the way it was supposed to in his junior career, but there are flashes of brilliance there. Defensively, he's already NHL-caliber, but will need to spend time in Bridgeport to get adjusted to not only the pro game, but to find his offensive touch.
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JTToilinginToronto said:
I mean, I hope you're right. But there isn't really much to say he has a high offensive potential. He's an overager in juniors and still couldn't put up 1/2 PPG this season. It's only going to get tougher in the AHL and hopefully for him (and us) the NHL.

Sure, anything could happen, but realistically, he's probably not going to be an offensive force from the blue line.

If he can turn into a Scott Mayfield type with good skating ability, I think most reasonable Islanders fans would take that as a W considering he was a 4th round pick.
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High end skating and agility to be able to stick with shifty forwards and beat them to pucks entering the zone is very important. He doesn't need to be Makar. Look at FLA's D getting to pucks and just flipping it out to center ice. Moving forward, if you pair one PMD with a more defensive guy who can really skate and win races to pucks? That's the formula.
 

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doublechili said:
High end skating and agility to be able to stick with shifty forwards and beat them to pucks entering the zone is very important.
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Sure, but he had that ability this season and couldn't produce too much in juniors despite being one of the oldest on the ice.

So why am I to expect a jump in offensive production against bigger, faster and more experienced competition?
 
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Jon sims son Landon gets 5?-‘d a game in the first period. Elbow to the face of top 2024 draft prospect Parekah.
 
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JTToilinginToronto said:
Sure, but he had that ability this season and couldn't produce too much in juniors despite being one of the oldest on the ice.

So why am I to expect a jump in offensive production against bigger, faster and more experienced competition?
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But I'm saying you don't need that jump in production if the expectation is that George will be a defensive guy that you pair with a PMD. But with his skating ability he's a new-NHL defensive defenseman, ie., with agility to stick with shifty forwards and speed to win races back to pucks.
 
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JTToilinginToronto said:
Sure, but he had that ability this season and couldn't produce too much in juniors despite being one of the oldest on the ice.

So why am I to expect a jump in offensive production against bigger, faster and more experienced competition?
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I don't blame you for feeling the way you're feeling. His stat sheet is not sexy, and with no way to actually watch the games, that's the only conclusion to come to. I'd do the same thing.

I just think there's a lot more under the surface. He has a sneaky good skill set on the offensive end, he just doesn't use it. He's typically looking for the smart play, rather than being aggressive. It's hard for him to do so when you have guys like Sam Dickinson and Oliver Bonk ahead of you on the blueline.

What you'll usually get from him on the offensive end, is simple, but smart breakout passes (his first pass is exceptional), and he has really good instincts with the puck. Which is why I see something more from him. It's just a matter of him using those skills.

Obviously, it's just one play, but this is an example of George creating for himself, and using his elite skating to navigate through the o-zone.

You don't see defensive defensemen with that kind of confidence carrying the puck. If you can do that, I'll make a lot of time for you. The fact that he's already so solid on the defensive end, and uses the body the right way, I've been sold the second we drafted him.
 
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Skip To My Lou said:
I don't blame you for feeling the way you're feeling. His stat sheet is not sexy, and with no way to actually watch the games, that's the only conclusion to come to. I'd do the same thing.

I just think there's a lot more under the surface. He has a sneaky good skill set on the offensive end, he just doesn't use it. He's typically looking for the smart play, rather than being aggressive. It's hard for him to do so when you have guys like Sam Dickinson and Oliver Bonk ahead of you on the blueline.

What you'll usually get from him on the offensive end, is simple, but smart breakout passes (his first pass is exceptional), and he has really good instincts with the puck. Which is why I see something more from him. It's just a matter of him using those skills.

Obviously, it's just one play, but this is an example of George creating for himself, and using his elite skating to navigate through the o-zone.

You don't see defensive defensemen with that kind of confidence carrying the puck. If you can do that, I'll make a lot of time for you. The fact that he's already so solid on the defensive end, and uses the body the right way, I've been sold the second we drafted him.
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Was this from a previous season or recent season? The tools are there but the toolbox isn’t in my opinion. The question is does he have the confidence to make these plays when the opportunity presents itself? Not sure he does
 
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Was this from a previous season or recent season? The tools are there but the toolbox isn’t in my opinion. The question is does he have the confidence to make these plays when the opportunity presents itself? Not sure he does
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I don't think that's very fair. I don't think he really looks like a point producer, but he seems to anticipate the play, and be in the right place defensively - so not an overall hockey sense/judgment issue.

About the McKeens list... Hard to take it seriously. Why is Dufour at the top? Why is Maggio and Gill ahead of Jefferies and Finley? Why does George get the writeup he does, and yet be 10th?

McKeens is overrating jr level production, and underrating athleticism. Dufour, despite the size, appears fringe. Nelson otoh plays a game that matches his physical strengths as do Jefferies, Finley, and George. My personal list would be very different. I'm leaving Odelius off because I have no info. Same on Gill, and Berg. I would strongly suspect Odelius would slot in around 3-4.

1. Nelson (size, hockey sense, physicality, he's quick enough, good judgment)
2. Maggio (has hockey sense, and hands, and can do more than Dufour)
3. Finley - he's a really good athlete, and seems a bit of a late bloomer physically. The athleticism makes it far more likely he'll become an NHL player than other forwards in NYI system.
4. George - I think his floor is pretty high. Could be a de Haan type. I see a likely bottom pair defender with far better positional play than e.g. Bolduc, which is good to have on a cheap contract.
5. Jefferies - I don't think he's quite the athlete Finley is, but he's also got some acceleration.
6. Lennox - Played for bad teams with gambling offensive Ds. But appears to move very well at that size.

I don't see an NHL player in Iskhakov. He reminds me of Rakshani, but not quite as good. (Rakshani had a really good SHL career, which wasn't surprising. He's a great hockey player, but not a NHL hockey player. Iskkhakov isn't quite that.) I don't see it with Dufour.
 
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saintunspecified said:
I don't think that's very fair. I don't think he really looks like a point producer, but he seems to anticipate the play, and be in the right place defensively - so not an overall hockey sense/judgment issue.

About the McKeens list... Hard to take it seriously. Why is Dufour at the top? Why is Maggio and Gill ahead of Jefferies and Finley? Why does George get the writeup he does, and yet be 10th?

McKeens is overrating jr level production, and underrating athleticism. Dufour, despite the size, appears fringe. Nelson otoh plays a game that matches his physical strengths as do Jefferies, Finley, and George. My personal list would be very different. I'm leaving Odelius off because I have no info. Same on Gill, and Berg. I would strongly suspect Odelius would slot in around 3-4.

1. Nelson (size, hockey sense, physicality, he's quick enough, good judgment)
2. Maggio (has hockey sense, and hands, and can do more than Dufour)
3. Finley - he's a really good athlete, and seems a bit of a late bloomer physically. The athleticism makes it far more likely he'll become an NHL player than other forwards in NYI system.
4. George - I think his floor is pretty high. Could be a de Haan type. I see a likely bottom pair defender with far better positional play than e.g. Bolduc, which is good to have on a cheap contract.
5. Jefferies - I don't think he's quite the athlete Finley is, but he's also got some acceleration.
6. Lennox - Played for bad teams with gambling offensive Ds. But appears to move very well at that size.

I don't see an NHL player in Iskhakov. He reminds me of Rakshani, but not quite as good. (Rakshani had a really good SHL career, which wasn't surprising. He's a great hockey player, but not a NHL hockey player. Iskkhakov isn't quite that.) I don't see it with Dufour.
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I felt the same way about Dufour, just did not see the footspeed and agility needed.
George from seeing him last year and this year, not seeing the advancement I thought would come with being older & a little stronger. I do like his skating when he's moving with & without the puck. Maybe getting out of Junior will help advance his game .
 

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Robin Salo appears to have signed with Malmö:

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I had so much hope for him, but I remember that post game interview vs the rangers were he said "I didn't expect that much speed" and I knew that was the end of him
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Was that at MSG? Around Christmas?

His parents were there, I met them in the concourse. Nice folks !
 
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