You only care about those 2 players because they are Quebecois...they bring nothing more than Pezzeta and Ylonen and as mention ae older.
And voila comes down to the French...sad.
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Belzile's first year basically doubled his AHL salary and he got a 2nd year with a one way deal. $$$ is why he left, if you ask me. Not sure I see the Habs give him a one way deal to retain his services when they have younger guys that offer the same level of NHL ability. Richard got a healthy AHL increase too. Maybe a case could be made that both of them wanted a better chance to win on AHL teams that weren't quite as young as Laval was going to be, but I still think it was the $$$ that made them change teams.
You make some good points. I’d also say though that Laval seems to be a great place to play. Fans are very supportive and they must be averaging around 8000 per game which is nuts. That would attract some guys as well.
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Or maybe you choose to not see it cause they are french? Bellzille was amazing when he came in the last time. I was there in these very boards and a lot of us were there reacting talking about his play, I was not the only one. I remember cause we wanted to tank but this guy was giving a lifeline to the team everytime he was on the ice. So some of us were actually pissed like "goddamit Bellzille!". Pretty different than whatever Pezzeta and blandman Ylonen are doing.
As for Richard, he was great at Laval, he deserved a chance. There is no logical reasons why he didn't.
If his play was so good why is he not in the NHL right now? Fact is he is a career minor leaguer who never was able to standout from the crowd for very long. Belzile is 32 and having a so-so year in Hartford making likely more than the Habs were willing to give him, especially since the second year of his contract is a 1-way no matter the level his plays in. He had to clear waivers to start the season and nobody picked him up because he is a dime a dozen.
450K in the AHL this year and 775 in the NHL if he ever gets called up
775K next year in the NHL or AHL
Richard is a little younger at 27 and just got called up to Boston but has not played. He also is making 450K in the AHL and 775K in the NHL. So far he has also been a career minor leaguer. Neither of these guys are special and they are older than both guys you like to crap on.
Pazzette has produced more than either of them at the same age and even overall while bringing more size and toughness.
Ylonen is younger and has waiver exempt still.
Easy reason to pick them over the other two.
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Marcotte pointing out that since Dec. 8th, Dobes has started 16 games and has posted a sub-.900 save % in only 3 of them .
Logan Mailloux playing in his 44th consecutive Rocket game — only player on the team to have played every one of the team’s games. Last year, Condotta was the only Rocket to do so.
Logan Mailloux playing in his 44th consecutive Rocket game — only player on the team to have played every one of the team’s games. Last year, Condotta was the only Rocket to do so.
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Watching my first full Laval game of the season. Good game so far. It's amazing how much I enjoy when we're beating the Leafs. Or anything associated with them.
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I'm not allowed to post in the Mailloux thread so I will say it is quite impressive he managed to get his +/- back to 0 from -20 or however far he fell.
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Who knows if one of Harris or Guhle will be able to play next game. I'd like them to give a few games to Mailloux if the two are hurt.
Problem is Norlinder and Barron got hurt last Rocket game. Barron came back, but the Rocket was already short with only 6 healthy Ds before that game.
Wonder who they would recall from 3R? Parker-Jones? Tourigny? Jandric?
Would a trade or waivers claim resolve the situation?
Problem is Norlinder and Barron got hurt last Rocket game. Barron came back, but the Rocket was already short with only 6 healthy Ds before that game.
Wonder who they would recall from 3R? Parker-Jones? Tourigny? Jandric?
Would a trade or waivers claim resolve the situation?
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There’s gonna be so many guys there though. I feel like Florian will just get buried
By whom, Mysak, Légaré or Simoneau? Bourque? Mackay? Give me a break.
The logjam is on defence, not up front.
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Xhekaj isn't too good for the ohl and he has only played 2 seasons there, so I definitely expect the habs send him back for an overage year like they did with his older brother
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At the same time we don't have much coming into Laval forward-wise next year.
I don't think Legare gets qualified and Cederqvist seems to be going back to Sweden.
I would also expect Maillet and Stephens gone so you're looking at about 12 signed forwards including Roy, Farrell, Heinemen, Mesar, and Beck. I would expect at least one of the first three to make the team out of camp. Beck may have an outside shot to start at 4C with the Habs too.
Kapanen and Tuch are the only to-be-signed guys and Kapanen may do one more year in Europe.
I don't think Guindon gets a contract and if he does it's a two way AHL one.
Davidson may not be signed though I think he should be.
I suppose Pitlick might have an outside shot at an AHL contract but PPG in the NCAA in his D+5 is not an outstanding achievement.
Xhekaj would be low on the depth chart but there's always injuries.
Heinemen-Gignac-Roy
Simoneau-Andersson-Farrell
Mysak-Kidney-Condotta
Tuch-Mesar-Beck
Davidson, Xhekaj, Kapanen, Pitlick
That's basically everyone that could start there. The Habs will have a bunch of roster changes too though as I wouldn't expect Armia, Pearson, or Dvo back. Outside chance Gallagher or Anderson are traded. Ylonen may be traded/cut. The way we saw four D rookies start last year, we will see something similar with forwards next year. They will want to give a chance to the guys in their final year of waiver ineligibility to prove they can be NHLers, namely Heinemen and Farrell. I could also see Andersson going to Europe and Mysak requesting a contract termination. Mysak already got all three years of his signing bonus so he'd only make 80k next year instead of 172.5k. He can likely make more in Europe and he already knows management doesn't care for him.
I could see them signing Xhekaj and starting him in the ECHL or even the AHL and sending other guys down to the ECHL. It's a higher tier than the OHL either way unless they think him beating on small teenagers is better for development. His D+1 is pretty comparable to Lucic's. Boston didn't think Lucic would be best served playing against teens as a 20 year old and let him marinate on their third/fourth line. Arber was different because he missed an entire COVID-cancelled season. Bergevin also signed a bunch of vet Dmen like Ouellet, Belpedio, and Niku that were expected to eat up the top 4 minutes in Laval.
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Roy, Beck, Heineman, Kidney, Mesar, Davidson, Farrell, Guindon, Tuch. Possibly Kapanen
Tons of NHL hopefuls. Maybe he’s better than some of these guys. Maybe some stick in the NHL. Maybe not.
Love Florian but is he even a PPG?
Just an idea anyways having him stay another year.
You can relax with the give me a break shit
OHL Total: | 49 | 25 | 19 | 44 | +12 | 62 |
44 points in 49 games, but 25 goals, during a year that he was moved to center. It's a good season, but considering the position switch another year in junior could be helpful.
Depends on what he needs, if he needs a confidence boost an overager season should let him put up some crazy numbers. If he needs a reality check the AHL should be a pretty tough step. Not sure it would be a good idea to play in the AHL and start fighting goons next year.
You're right, sorry.
Can we look at it this way? Who is not coming back up front and who do we have to add?
Let's also graduate at least one forward to Montreal (Roy OR Farrell/Heineman?).
Currently 11 Forwards on NHL contracts and 3 on AHL = 14 excluding Roy in Montreal
Don't bring back:
Stephens UFA vet
Maillet UFA vet
Légaré NQ
Cederqvist NQ
Bourque (AHL) vet, time is up I think
Mackay (AHL)
Add:
Mesar
Beck
Tuch
Xhekaj
Kapanen?
one vet (two if no Kapanen)
Guindon or one other newcomer might play in Trois Rivieres. Simoneau doesn't bring much either, by the way. I'd prioritize Xhekaj's development over Simoneau.
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I would prioritize Xhekaj over Simonneau but would Houle? Same with Mysak.
Does Guindon get sent down before Xhekaj? Maybe. Maybe not.
Seems like however you slice it Xhekaj’s on the 4th line likely.
Poster above made a good point about his play lately might be a better indicator of where he’s at. But still roughly a PPG which is hardly world beating.
This is only his 2nd season in the OHL. A 3rd is hardly unjust despite his age. We’ll see how the rest of his season goes.
But there actually is quite the logjam at forward in Laval next year. At the very least it’s an open ended question whether he makes the jump or not. To me anyways
Florian always be sent to the OHL after camp.
I would prioritize Xhekaj over Simonneau but would Houle? Same with Mysak.
Does Guindon get sent down before Xhekaj? Maybe. Maybe not.
Seems like however you slice it Xhekaj’s on the 4th line likely.
Poster above made a good point about his play lately might be a better indicator of where he’s at. But still roughly a PPG which is hardly world beating.
This is only his 2nd season in the OHL. A 3rd is hardly unjust despite his age. We’ll see how the rest of his season goes.
But there actually is quite the logjam at forward in Laval next year. At the very least it’s an open ended question whether he makes the jump or not. To me anyways
I do think a choice weill have to be made between Mysak and Kidney. I like Kidney more.
Mysak is Ylonen with slower skating.
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I don’t think you guys watch a lot of Rocket games, the key will be AHL or AHL/NHL type of contracts but some of the names you want to just let go
-Bourque is the team captain
-Stephens / Maillet: need to keep at least 1
- McKay is the team tough(est) guy / goon
- Légaré should be AHL only but he can skate, fight, PK
- Cederqvist bye
- Simoneau “doesn’t bring much” is one of Laval’s best players
I get that we need to make place for new players but you need to keep some vets to show the way even if they don’t have NHL upside
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