Injury Report: 2023-24 Injury thread (McGinn out 4 months after back surgery)

[cheesymc]

Time to showcase Max I guess… can’t see more than a late 3rd round return, but it would be better than nothing if we don’t plan to resign him…

 

[Rybread86]

Time to showcase Max I guess… can’t see more than a late 3rd round return, but it would be better than nothing if we don’t plan to resign him…

a 3rd? Im a jones fan, but hes not bringing back more than a 6th. And at best I'd say its a swap of 2 struggling young players.

Edit: last bit was a little harsh. He can be a decent bottom 6 if he can stay healthy but hes shown to be a 20 point guy at best so far, who has a motor and inconsistent physical presence. I dont think he files for arbitration, I dont think he will get anywhere near his arbitration number. I do see Anaheim thinking hes a good locker room guy and giving him a couple years at or close to league minimum.

 

[MMC]

a 3rd? Im a jones fan, but hes not bringing back more than a 6th. And at best I'd say its a swap of 2 struggling young players.

Edit: last bit was a little harsh. He can be a decent bottom 6 if he can stay healthy but hes shown to be a 20 point guy at best so far, who has a motor and inconsistent physical presence. I dont think he files for arbitration, I dont think he will get anywhere near his arbitration number. I do see Anaheim thinking hes a good locker room guy and giving him a couple years at or close to league minimum.

He is eligible for arbitration and his QO is $1.5M

 

[Rybread86]

He is eligible for arbitration and his QO is $1.5M

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Hes eligible. I dont know that hes worth $1.5mil right now. Is he?

 

[MMC]

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Hes eligible. I dont know that hes worth $1.5mil right now. Is he?

To me no but there's also other players I'd rather see fill out depth in the lineup at this point as I think Max is running out of upside. Ready to start seeing what the Tracey/Regenda/Nesterenko/Perreault group can do at the NHL level. He will have a career being a depth forward for other teams but it won't be here.

 

[Rybread86]

To me no but there's also other players I'd rather see fill out depth in the lineup at this point as I think Max is running out of upside. Ready to start seeing what the Tracey/Regenda/Nesterenko/Perreault group can do at the NHL level. He will have a career being a depth forward for other teams but it won't be here.

Hes seemingly best friends with the entire roster and always upbeat. You have to wonder how far being a hard working locker room guy will take him. $900k or less, does it hurt to have him as a 4th line or 13th forward?

Unless he makes a huge push here at the end of the season, I dont think this goes to arbitration. But I see there being interest in bringing him back.

 

[The Duck Knight]

Hes seemingly best friends with the entire roster and always upbeat. You have to wonder how far being a hard working locker room guy will take him. $900k or less, does it hurt to have him as a 4th line or 13th forward?

Unless he makes a huge push here at the end of the season, I dont think this goes to arbitration. But I see there being interest in bringing him back.

He's not going to make 900k or less with the Ducks though. If they give him a QO he'll take it. If they don't he'll be a UFA and at that point some team will offer him better deal/role.

 

[Rybread86]

He's not going to make 900k or less with the Ducks though. If they give him a QO he'll take it. If they don't he'll be a UFA and at that point some team will offer him better deal/role.

If they ink a deal before hand, they dont have to make the QO of $1.5mil. He may decide to hit UFA and go that route but I dont think he will be looking at offers near that QO.

 

[Mr Rogers]

Crazy how Max suffers an injury seemingly every year that puts him out for large swaths of games. Have to imagine it's impacted his development a bit over the years, although it's not like he'd be a scorer otherwise or anything like that.

 

[The Duck Knight]

If they ink a deal before hand, they dont have to make the QO of $1.5mil. He may decide to hit UFA and go that route but I dont think he will be looking at offers near that QO.

True I guess I'm just looking at things how I would view them from his POV. If the outcomes are (1. Sign for 900k with the Ducks. 2. Taking the QO. 3. Hitting UFA and getting 900k with a better team.) I would never go with option 1.

 

[cheesymc]

a 3rd? Im a jones fan, but hes not bringing back more than a 6th. And at best I'd say its a swap of 2 struggling young players.

Edit: last bit was a little harsh. He can be a decent bottom 6 if he can stay healthy but hes shown to be a 20 point guy at best so far, who has a motor and inconsistent physical presence. I dont think he files for arbitration, I dont think he will get anywhere near his arbitration number. I do see Anaheim thinking hes a good locker room guy and giving him a couple years at or close to league minimum.

With the stupid money being issued to 4th liners like Dickinson and Foglino, 1.5 is cheap and what’s an extra 500k overpay for a popular locker room guy. I mean anyone signing with us will be either be extremely desperate or asking for a big overpay like Killorn.

If we get any luck, and we are extremely due… he can pull off a career year like Beleskey and be a trade asset next year. But if we have other targets in mind, Max is a profile playoff teams would want… size/speed/compete like a poor man’s Nick Paul. That’s at least a 3rd.

 

[Rybread86]

True I guess I'm just looking at things how I would view them from his POV. If the outcomes are (1. Sign for 900k with the Ducks. 2. Taking the QO. 3. Hitting UFA and getting 900k with a better team.) I would never go with option 1.

Well #2 likely isnt even an option.

Jones is very close with a few guys on the team, so that support and friendship may entice him to stay. Comtois didnt exactly have an easy go of it on the open market, granted he had a few other issues against him.

Question may come down to... Take the guaranteed option, or bet on yourself and go to the open market, even though you havent proven much at this point?

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Crazy how Max suffers an injury seemingly every year that puts him out for large swaths of games. Have to imagine it's impacted his development a bit over the years, although it's not like he'd be a scorer otherwise or anything like that.

Max has suffered injuries after we drafted him in 2016. He's got crazy bad luck with injuries that it's probably derailed his development since being drafted.

D+0 (2016) = 63 reg season games in OHL
D+1 (2017) = 33 reg season games in OHL
D+2 (2018) = 31 reg season games in OHL

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Gone Pro
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D+3 (2019) = 43 reg season games in AHL and 30 reg games in NHL (mostly healthy all season!)
D+4 (2020) = 8 reg season games in AHL and 59 games in NHL
D+5 (2021) = 46 reg season games in NHL (56 game season)
D+6 (2022) = 2 reg season games
D+7 (2023) = 69 reg season games
D+8 (2024, current season) = 34 games (out of 49 games)

I love Max's "bull in a China shop" heavy game, but he's just made out of glass for so long now.

Verbeek's walked away from Steel and Milano. It looks like Jones might be tracking the same path. Like @MMC cited above, there are other players in the AHL that could take up that NHL roster spot like a Regenda.

 

[All Mighty]

 

[All Mighty]

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

LaCombe and Minty living together is funny to me… they seem like polar opposites, personality wise

 

[JonathnTaylorTavares]

LaCombe and Minty living together is funny to me… they seem like polar opposites, personality wise

This is the first thing i thought of

 

[Firequacker]

LaCombe and Minty living together is funny to me… they seem like polar opposites, personality wise

My first thought was that I want a Ducks Weekly sitcom segment and I want it now.

 

[Rybread86]

Max has suffered injuries after we drafted him in 2016. He's got crazy bad luck with injuries that it's probably derailed his development since being drafted.

D+0 (2016) = 63 reg season games in OHL
D+1 (2017) = 33 reg season games in OHL
D+2 (2018) = 31 reg season games in OHL

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Gone Pro
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D+3 (2019) = 43 reg season games in AHL and 30 reg games in NHL (mostly healthy all season!)
D+4 (2020) = 8 reg season games in AHL and 59 games in NHL
D+5 (2021) = 46 reg season games in NHL (56 game season)
D+6 (2022) = 2 reg season games
D+7 (2023) = 69 reg season games
D+8 (2024, current season) = 34 games (out of 49 games)

I love Max's "bull in a China shop" heavy game, but he's just made out of glass for so long now.

Verbeek's walked away from Steel and Milano. It looks like Jones might be tracking the same path. Like @MMC cited above, there are other players in the AHL that could take up that NHL roster spot like a Regenda.

I dont see Jones in the same camp as Steel or Milano, even though he may suffer the same fate. I think the only wrong thing to do is to give him a QO (or a contract above what a QO would be), everything else I can understand.

 

[McDonald19]

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This is the first thing i thought of

I thought LaCombe was Beavis? But that would make Minty…

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I thought LaCombe was Beavis? But that would make Minty…

Goshhh, probably a better duo set than Napoleon and "Vote for Pedro".

 

[MMC]

 

[MMC]

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

I expected Killer to shut down for the season TBH

 

[Arthuros]

Killorn should take as looooooong as he needs to get to 100%.

He put up points regardless, but I don't think I can watch much more of him labouring around. He's old enough that forcing himself to play will just bring him to the end of his career quicker.