Speculation: 2023-24 Free Agency/Trade Thread II

[robbieboy3686]

There's nothing rushed, the point of PV selling off the veterans he inherited was to build the team with the players he wants to bring in, both internally through the draft/prospect trades and externally with veterans. This is nothing more than a direct continuation of what he's already been doing

Exactly somehow I still find myself max annoyed with the people who say “ we reset the rebuild” like Verbeek Lied to the Samuelis to get the job, then ended up taking a route that was off the original plan.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

Still think stamkos comes here on a 3 year deal. Expected overpayment offcourse

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Idk how Fowler keeps slipping through the cracks…. We should def be offering fowler to Sabres devils and redwings

He served his purpose, he led us to 3 top 3 picks…. Time to move on from the tank commander

https://x.com/i/web/status/1799106220491735215

 

[dracom]

Idk how Fowler keeps slipping through the cracks…. We should def be offering fowler to Sabres devils and redwings

He served his purpose, he led us to 3 top 3 picks…. Time to move on from the tank commander

His contract, his ntc, maybe the organization likes him and thinks he’s a net positive on the team, teams just aren’t interested. Take your pick. I’ve said it before but Fowler is absolutely finishing this contract with us, after that i don’t know.

 

[MMC]

Exactly somehow I still find myself max annoyed with the people who say “ we reset the rebuild” like Verbeek Lied to the Samuelis to get the job, then ended up taking a route that was off the original plan.

People have an easier time coping with the losing by pretending things aren’t going to plan, which would mean things would dramatically change rather than the team continuing to stay the course

 

[Dirk316]

Trouba is worth it just for the pure hatred conjured by having one of him or Gudas on the ice for the majority of each game. You would probably have to go back to the 90s to find a pair of RHD that dirty on the same roster haha, people would hate it.

Would definitely put some fear into opposing forwards which is the goal.
Ideally Trouba would a #4 and Gudas a #6

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

Would definitely put some fear into opposing forwards which is the goal.
Ideally Trouba would a #4 and Gudas a #6

Would love it lmao

 

[JAHV]

Yeah that wasn’t really meant to you in particular and I noticed you mentioned Roy earlier. Generally we have pretty high standards around here for free agents. Basically we will have to overpay for someone, but being thrifty isn’t always the right decision.

I hear you. I'm all for throwing money at free agents, within reason. Matt Roy or Brett Pesce in the $6 - $7 million range for 5 years isn't going to cripple the team. I don't think Stamkos is the right fit for this team, but I wouldn't be upset if they signed him for 2 years at basically any price. I have zero problems with the Killorn contract.

The Ducks are going to need to pay to bring in quality players. Let's do it.

 

[MMC]

Yeah, his 2022 off-season acquisition is great proof of what he wanted to bring in - especially that defense. What a disaster of that was, which Verbeek expected the team to be a .500 team to start the season.

It's just another flip flop, but it's a great thing Verbeek reset the rebuild so that he buys time to make up for the many mistakes he makes all along the way.

So because you weren’t happy with his 2022 offseason, you think he should never try to improve the team externally again?

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

A lot of “no to this guy, no to that guy”. have to say yes on someone lol

I’m surprised a ton of people are against Trouba. He’s a top-4 RHD that plays physical - exactly what this defense core needs.

But alas, people don’t want to improve the team lol.

 

[tomd]

I’m surprised a ton of people are against Trouba. He’s a top-4 RHD that plays physical - exactly what this defense core needs.

But alas, people don’t want to improve the team lol.

Depends on the price I suppose.

 

[Ducks DVM]

I’m surprised a ton of people are against Trouba. He’s a top-4 RHD that plays physical - exactly what this defense core needs.

But alas, people don’t want to improve the team lol.

@Leonardo87 watches him every game and says he’s not very good, he’s got a sizable 8M Cap hit, won’t be free to acquire, is a poor skater, and has a broken ankle - which won’t help his already inferior skating. He also makes stupid plays and is a dirty player who headhunts with elbows, who won’t be getting the O6/big market “get out of jail free” card for that shit in Anaheim.

He’s not the Trouba of 4-6 years ago.

 

[Gliff]

@Leonardo87 Fowler for Trouba?

 

[Leonardo87]

@Leonardo87 watches him every game and says he’s not very good, he’s got a sizable 8M Cap hit, won’t be free to acquire, is a poor skater, and has a broken ankle - which won’t help his already inferior skating. He also makes stupid plays and is a dirty player who headhunts with elbows, who won’t be getting the O6/big market “get out of jail free” card for that shit in Anaheim.

He’s not the Trouba of 4-6 years ago.

Tuba is a liability on the ice. He is also dirty. Watch that game 6 first goal. That’s Trouba in a nutshell. His ankle was healed this was during the regular season he was injured.

 

[70sSanO]

The way the Ducks take penalties Trouba will probably take a penalty during the warm-up and we will start the game short handed.

John

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1799178468673847660

take it with a grain of salt.

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1799178468673847660

take it with a grain of salt.

wheres zegras visor?

 

[Rasp]

The next few weeks are going to be painful with the Zegras bullshit

 

[tomd]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1799178468673847660

take it with a grain of salt.

I think Reinbacher could ultimately happen or the 5OA pick. I don't see Montreal agreeing to trade Guhle.

 

[duckpuck]

His contract, his ntc, maybe the organization likes him and thinks he’s a net positive on the team, teams just aren’t interested. Take your pick. I’ve said it before but Fowler is absolutely finishing this contract with us, after that i don’t know.

The NTC is an issue, but I think Fowler would waive it to the right team. His comments in the recent Stephen's article suggested that was on the table. He wasn't asking for a trade. But he was open to moving.

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“At the end of the day, I want to be competing for a chance to play in the playoffs,” he said. “Play longer. I’d love for that to be here, honestly. But I think that’s just a conversation we have to have with the people in charge and understand where they see the future, where I fit in that plan and then go from there.”

The no-trade clause helps with a potential destination, but the Ducks’ all-time scoring leader among defensemen said he hasn’t “given that a second thought, honestly.”

“It is part of my contract, but who knows if that’ll even be a conversation down the road. Honestly, we’ll just have to see,” he added.

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I think there's a pretty good chance he's traded. It might not be until next year's TDL, but given the duck's pipeline, it seems like eventually he goes elsewhere.

I’m surprised a ton of people are against Trouba. He’s a top-4 RHD that plays physical - exactly what this defense core needs.

But alas, people don’t want to improve the team lol.

I'm not against Trouba per se. But I don't see a role for both him and Gudas. I'd much rather sign Roy to a longer term deal, even with an overpay.

 

[Hey234]

My current for fun and obviously wrong ideas:

Trade Gibson @ 2 retained (4.5 per) + 3rd (Ducks) for 10th (NJ)
Trade Vaakanainen + 2nd (BOS) for Kakko (NYR)
Sign UFA Lankinen for 2.2 x 2 years
Sign UFA Roy for 6 x 5 years
Sign UFA DeBrusk for 5.5 x 5 years

Gauthier-Carlsson-DeBrusk
Vatrano-McTavish-Terry
Killorn-Zegras-Kakko
Regenda-Strome-Colangelo

Mintyukov-Roy
Fowler-Zellweger
LaCombe-Gudas

Dostal
Lankinen

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

The NTC is an issue, but I think Fowler would waive it to the right team. His comments in the recent Stephen's article suggested that was on the table. He wasn't asking for a trade. But he was open to moving.

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“At the end of the day, I want to be competing for a chance to play in the playoffs,” he said. “Play longer. I’d love for that to be here, honestly. But I think that’s just a conversation we have to have with the people in charge and understand where they see the future, where I fit in that plan and then go from there.”

The no-trade clause helps with a potential destination, but the Ducks’ all-time scoring leader among defensemen said he hasn’t “given that a second thought, honestly.”

“It is part of my contract, but who knows if that’ll even be a conversation down the road. Honestly, we’ll just have to see,” he added.

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I think there's a pretty good chance he's traded. It might not be until next year's TDL, but given the duck's pipeline, it seems like eventually he goes elsewhere.



I'm not against Trouba per se. But I don't see a role for both him and Gudas. I'd much rather sign Roy to a longer term deal, even with an overpay.

IMO, that’s some pretty newsworthy stuff regarding Fowler. I’m not saying we should be in a hurry to move him but it sure sounds like if a good deal came along from a contender it might not take a lot to twist his arm. He’s tired of losing and recognizes his window to win is closing. Good on him for being open to the possibility of moving on.

 

[tomd]

It's tough as a fan to lose familiar faces (tougher for some than others) but many times it is best for both the player and the organization to make a change. I believe that applies to both Fowler and Gibson if PV can get good value for each of them.

 

[DavidBL]

My current for fun and obviously wrong ideas:

Trade Gibson @ 2 retained (4.5 per) + 3rd (Ducks) for 10th (NJ)
Trade Vaakanainen + 2nd (BOS) for Kakko (NYR)
Sign UFA Lankinen for 2.2 x 2 years
Sign UFA Roy for 6 x 5 years
Sign UFA DeBrusk for 5.5 x 5 years

Gauthier-Carlsson-DeBrusk
Vatrano-McTavish-Terry
Killorn-Zegras-Kakko
Regenda-Strome-Colangelo

Mintyukov-Roy
Fowler-Zellweger
LaCombe-Gudas

Dostal
Lankinen

I think I'd rather put the Kakko money and add to the Debrusk money and get a real top 6 player and let Strome stick as a 3rw and either add a 4c or let Lundy do it. I think Debrusk is more of a middle 6 guy. Closer to the tier of Vatrano or even Strome.

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

wheres zegras visor?

That's how you know this is a legit news source.

I think the only way Zegras gets traded is if we draft Demidov, and even then I wouldn't be surprised if he stayed.