Speculation: 2023-24 Armchair GM thread
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My answer changes with who we pick. If we get Moore/Dvorsky, then I am okay with Edstrom at #21. It also depends on who is available at #21.
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I don’t know how we move up very far unless we do like 2 separate trades. 21 + 2nd gets you to like 17? 17 + 2nd might get you to 15? 15 + Addison/Rossi? Idk, doesn’t seem realistic. I had wondered about Gus with Buffalo but idk about that either. I could see Moore falling personally. I’ve kinda cooled on the idea of him. I love the skating but I don’t know how dynamic the skill is. Is he Larkin or is he Newhook? I’d love to have Newhook but I don’t think he solves many of our problems. Moore is like another Khusnutdinov for me, maybe a bit bigger. I love Danielson. Really rangy player with great skill and he can skate. I think I would have him as a similar level prospect to Kirby Dach in his draft year. Dach was bigger and maybe a tad bit more skilled, but Danielson is the better skater.
Overall not super excited. I’ve been working too much to really keep up with the prospects and I’m still bummed about the Bedard thing.
Yeah, once you get to a certain point in the first trying to move up esp in a great week good talent, the value of those picks sky rocket in the eyes of that teams GM. Really do not believe the wild have the proper assets to move up past maybe 15 unless they give up something legit you wouldn't want to lose. Think rossi's value has tanked. Addison will not do it even with two 2nds added. I like Danielson if we somehow moved up, David edstrom or musty if we didn't.
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Jason Robertson came out of the 2nd round. So did Roope Hintz. Wyatt Johnston was a late first. Oettinger was another late 1st. They aren't going to hit 100% of the time but their team is made of a mixture of high draft picks and mid-round picks.
Compare their drafts in the past 10 years with the Wild.
I just hope Brackett goes BPA. The emotional move is to take another C because of the Dallas series without JEE but this team really needs help on the wing and the blueline too.
Centers can usually play wing too. If we take a LHD, I will start throwing things.
I mean, if Reinbacher is there at #21 vs. a guy like Ritchie then you probably have to take the RD(or pick him and trade him), but otherwise, this draft is pretty well devoid of can't miss Dmen like Power, or even guys like Sanderson, Byram, Seider, and Luke Hughes. They are more of a Schneider and Guhle caliber, IMO, at best.
Once you get past the first 7-8 forwards they all have flaws. There is the top 5 forwards, then I think you throw in Leonard as a solid, solid pick. Barlow, too, but might only have 2nd line upside. Benson looks sensational, but he is small and slight, and we all know how that can go. Dvorsky was up and down last year, Danielson is seen to have limited upside by many, Moore has limited puck skills, Wood has skating issues, Yager, Cristall, and Heidt all are slight players.
My point is that determining BPA is pretty hard once you get past the first 7-8 picks. There seems to be a lack of consensus.
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If Reinbacher is there at #21 we have to take him and I wouldn't be mad at all. All I'm saying is that if we pick another LHD, they better have some special quality we don't currently have. Trying to justify to a fanbase why you picked a LHD when you already have four relatively quality LHD and center has major question marks would not be a question I would like to answer. Especially when every year we seem to get bounced by a team with high impact centers. Hintz this year. ROR the year before.
And every year we get fed the same crap. "Can't get a center via trade or free agency."
Their reasoning loses credibility when they don't get a center the only other way you can acquire one.
You aren't going to get a quality C for those type of assets. Probably not a quality C prospect. A failing C prospect like Turcotte, maybe.
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It's funny how you can go from dogging on these prospects for not being very valuable, not doing much in the CHL.. I think your exact words yesterday were:
Now today you're adding a cap dump fourth liner and a 2nd for a top six center.
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Plus, I don't know if I would trade for PLD regardless. There's nothing to suggest he'd re-sign here. Isn't his contract up soon?
Upon checking, is an RFA right now.
Well, you'd only trade for him if you had talks with he and his agent beforehand, and had decided on the parameters of a deal.
I do agree that he might not be the one that you'd want to lock in on for 8+M long term, though. He is not a good defensive player, and is a good, but not great offensive C. Not a true #1C, or the Yin to JEE's Yang.
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I thought I read somewhere that we were on his short list of teams he'd be open to, but I don't even know if I read that from a legit source or how true it is, so forget I even said this
If he said he wasn't going to sign back? Yes. Lambos is also a Winnipeg kid. And they could flip Foligno for a 2nd or maybe a first at the deadline.
As for PLD signing, he's a RFA and they could do a bridge.
Few thoughts:
1) Dubois wants to go to Montreal.
2) Unlikely Dubois signs a bridge with us. He's already signed a bridge and I doubt he cares about our cap situation over what he wants.
3) Foligno would be lucky to return a 2nd at this point.
4) You know how annoying it is that people try to trade Minnesotans to Minnesota just because they are from Minnesota? That reasoning is not good enough for Winnipeg to make a deal.
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