Speculation: 2023-24-25 Sharks Roster Discussion

[Alaskanice]

With that kind of package, I’d like to have a more established defender.

 

[Jargon]

Same exact draft year and similar AHL scoring. Both LHD with size, though Shakir is bigger.

If anything, the biggest differentiator is that Hunt has struggled to crack a strong Minnesota d core, where as Shakir is struggling to crack the worst defense in the NHL. (And apparently being leapfrogged by a teenage smurf in Cagnoni). So Hunt should be worth a little more than Shakir.

This board is massively overrating Shakir’s value at this point. As I said a few weeks back, no reason to believe he is anything other than a throw in. Nobody is paying significant assets for a D+5 defenseman unless they plan to play him in the NHL immediately and it’s hard to believe anybody would play Shakir in the NHL immediately when we’re not even doing that.

I’m not sure this is EXACTLY the right assessment though. I mean I agree with you his worth is likely way down but he got injured to start the year — if he didn’t, I’m fairly sure he would’ve been on the roster right now.

Because of his injury, the Sharks ended up with Liljegren and allowed Thompson to break in (all good events) — which kinda took all the available spots. I imagine that he will get playing time this year and run off with it, maybe after the trade deadline.

I still think he had top 4 potential — it doesn’t seem like he’s necessarily stagnated.

I know the responses will likely be that if he was good enough he’d win a spot on the team but Ferraro and Walman aren’t going to sit, so that essentially leaves him fighting for a spot with Thrun and Thompson, and they’ve done too much at this level to be sat for Muhk. So… I think it’s a bit of a waiting game with him.

 

[JoeThorntonsRooster]

I’m not sure this is EXACTLY the right assessment though. I mean I agree with you his worth is likely way down but he got injured to start the year — if he didn’t, I’m fairly sure he would’ve been on the roster right now.

Because of his injury, the Sharks ended up with Liljegren and allowed Thompson to break in (all good events) — which kinda took all the available spots. I imagine that he will get playing time this year and run off with it, maybe after the trade deadline.

I still think he had top 4 potential — it doesn’t seem like he’s necessarily stagnated.

I know the responses will likely be that if he was good enough he’d win a spot on the team but Ferraro and Walman aren’t going to sit, so that essentially leaves him fighting for a spot with Thrun and Thompson, and they’ve done too much at this level to be sat for Muhk. So… I think it’s a bit of a waiting game with him.

There is no guarantee he would be on the roster to start the season. That was something we all said and wanted to believe, but was far from a guarantee. (He was healthy last year and got 3 NHL games).

Thrun and Thompson have been healthy scratched plenty. Neither has done anywhere near enough to block a guy if he were a can't miss budding NHLer, which is what Mukhamadullin would need to be in order to have value at 22. And pretty much every NHL teams has a guy way better than Thrun that Mukhamadullin would need to beat out in order to take a spot there.

He might still have top 4 potential but that's not the same as having significant trade value.

 

[gaucholoco3]

The Sharks don’t have any roster space for a D.

Walman, Ceci, Ferraro, Liljegren, Rutta, Thrun, and a soon to return Vlassic

That’s 7 D that will not be waived even if Sharks fans want them to be.

Ferraro needs to be moved.

 

[spintops]

Well I'm glad we didn't trade Will Smith for him Lol

 

[Barrie22]

Well I'm glad we didn't trade Will Smith for him Lol

Why would they want an AHL player ?

 

[Juxtaposer]

Well I'm glad we didn't trade Will Smith for him Lol

I have a pretty extensive ignore list but I refuse to believe anyone seriously suggested we trade Smith for Jiricek.

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

I have a pretty extensive ignore list but I refuse to believe anyone seriously suggested we trade Smith for Jiricek.

Last week on the Main Boards, I err........suggested Smith in a package for Barzal, but never for Jiricek. **ducks at incoming tomatoes**

 

[Juxtaposer]

Last week on the Main Boards, I err........suggested Smith in a package for Barzal, but never for Jiricek. **ducks at incoming tomatoes**

Welcome to my ignore list, hotcabbagesoup.

 

[spintops]

I have a pretty extensive ignore list but I refuse to believe anyone seriously suggested we trade Smith for Jiricek.

Considering the poster, I think you are right.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Considering the poster, I think you are right.

Hmm, well I recall Hodge having an idle thought about it, if that's what you're referring to, but I didn't feel like that was a serious attempt to peddle Smith. I'm more talking guys who have gone on long anti-Smith tirades and such.

 

[Lebanezer]

I have a pretty extensive ignore list but I refuse to believe anyone seriously suggested we trade Smith for Jiricek.

Givani Smith for Jiricek is more than fair.