I would be understanding of Goodrow's desire to not play here and I would facilitate the first deal I could to allow him to compete but if the Rangers are offering 30th overall to take him off their hands, I'm taking that deal. I'd even put him back on waivers the next day to allow a team better than us to take him for free. The team needs to do what's best for them during the rebuild. That's still more important than his own desires.
Speculation: 2023-24-25 Sharks Roster Discussion
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one2gamble
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Apparently the Rangers have orders not to trade out of the 1st round because a James Dolan owns the Sphere, lol
Jargon
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Her article is very speculative though, there’s some belief that they have an agreement… but I don’t really see why. they couldn’t settle on a trade? Even a paltry one? I doubt Grier claims him.
It doesn't have to be this year's if that's what matters to them. lol
knu
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We should not be taking Goodrow for free. The end.
themelkman
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The only way I can accept taking on Goodrow from waivers is if we then trade Kunin.
No reason to have both of them around and making far too much for too long.
No reason to have both of them around and making far too much for too long.
We can only hope
I would imagine he views this as paying back goodwill. Drury basically got him into the league, which got him this job.
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He was my neighbor growing up and was a shithead. His whole family was. There's a buried story about him getting arrested in town for some of the most blockheaded stuff imaginable.
No thanks
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Brian Burke / Doug Maclean did something similar to acquire Todd Marchant. He nixed a trade to ANA so Maclean put him on waivers for ANA to claim.
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Did we get a more reputable source yet? Maybe someone else knows better, but the New York Post doesn't have the best reputation right?
This. Doesn't matter who the player is, taking on almost 4 mil in cap space for 3 years because the team trading the player needs the cap space is gonna cost some assets. Carolina got a 1st for taking on Marleau's contract because the Leafs were desperate for cap space. We should at least be getting a 2nd for the trouble.
Also I don't get all the hate for Kunin. Sure he was overpaid for what he brought but he's no longer under contract and is fine in a 4th line role at 900k-1M.
LadyStanley
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Technically trade his rights.
Stan Fischer is a legend.
Change of tactics for GMMG?
Gecklund
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There’s talk about it on the 33 thoughts podcast or at least the diving. I’m sure they mention it too. Just haven’t listened to it yet.
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I think the handshake agreement would be to take Goodrow and then also maybe take Trouba in a real trade and the compensation for taking Trouba is higher thanks to already having taken Goodrow off their hands. Or we're trading for Kakko and not giving up anything as a result of taking Goodrow on waivers. Really uncertain what that whole deal looks like.
If we're taking on Goodrow, ideally you ride him out a year and a half, build some value and then move him once a retention slot becomes available next TDL with the Burns contract having expired. Would run into the issue we face now of not having a retention slot for another year and a half, but also don't see obvious candidates to deal barring a UFA we sign this offseason with the plan of flipping them in 18 months (though a guy like that shouldn't be signed to a lofty cap hit anyway that needs loads of retention).
If we're taking on Goodrow, ideally you ride him out a year and a half, build some value and then move him once a retention slot becomes available next TDL with the Burns contract having expired. Would run into the issue we face now of not having a retention slot for another year and a half, but also don't see obvious candidates to deal barring a UFA we sign this offseason with the plan of flipping them in 18 months (though a guy like that shouldn't be signed to a lofty cap hit anyway that needs loads of retention).
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I don't think acquiring Goodrow makes Kunin redundant, they occupy very different niches
Goodrow is a quality depth player who provides defense, energy and clutch play
Kunin is a pure energy forechecker who provides nothing else
We can fit both of them on the team, we're not exactly overflowing with talent on the wing right now
Goodrow is a quality depth player who provides defense, energy and clutch play
Kunin is a pure energy forechecker who provides nothing else
We can fit both of them on the team, we're not exactly overflowing with talent on the wing right now
A young high level athlete getting preferential treatment? No way
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I don't think Goodrow is actually any good at defense anymore anyway. He hits people and can PK, which is useful, and we have the cap space for his term, but he's not good at 5v5 in any capacity anymore.
He won't actually harm us, given our situation, but I want a nice bribe to take him, because he's really bad.
He won't actually harm us, given our situation, but I want a nice bribe to take him, because he's really bad.
I can't help but this the handshake deal might be based on if Goodrow clears waivers. That seems to make more sense.
I suspect the teams have worked out a trade for Goodrow but NYR are going to see if anyone else is willing to take him and his contract for free, if not, then they pull the pre-arranged trade deal with the Sharks.
I suspect the teams have worked out a trade for Goodrow but NYR are going to see if anyone else is willing to take him and his contract for free, if not, then they pull the pre-arranged trade deal with the Sharks.
Gecklund
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I read that but it just doesn't make sense to me and its not like the rumour is coming from a top notch NHL source. I think what I laid out makes more sense but I guess we will see.
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Believe it would be a way to speed up and circumvent the NTC and then make a deal with the sweetener separate from Goodrow. Essentially make it a 2 part trade (sort of like the Reimer trade with Toronto when we "overpaid" for Polak/Spaling but in reality Reimer was part of it - and it was still an overpay giving up 2nd, 2nd, and 3rd rounders for those 3).
Not sure if Kakko is part of the deal or if there is another cap saving measure like Trouba that NYR will explore to SJ (though I can't see him waiving for SJ). Would guess there is some sort of young player/prospect/draft pick eventually making its way to SJ for the potential 3 year bailout.
