Speculation: 2023-24-25-26 Sharks Roster Discussion

[the dangler]

Why they say it needs to be a 3 way trade. They also might be talking out of their asses.

ah so, they'll need to get rid of more player(s) in exchange. got it.

 

[STL Shark]

I thought tampa was up against the cap which is why they let raddysh walk.

They have almost $15M to work with counting their top 13F, 7D, and 2G. Given CBJ would want roster players coming back, there would be more salary heading back that would open more cap space for TB (would assume Moser is a big piece heading back). Moser, Geekie, 2028 1st, and 2027 2nd feels close to what it would take I think. Probably one more piece (which TB would just fill via UFA tomorrow).

 

[Star Platinum]

I sub to the we have an extra 2nd to move up 8 spots in the draft camp. Or here’s an extra 2nd for a Sherwood type trade. Either way I’m fine with itttt I guess

How about fewer 2nds to make fewer Sherwood trades?

 

[STL Shark]

Predictions for tomorrow:

- Fact that Desharnais is still not re-signed and RHD market is thin and getting term, I think he is gone tomorrow and signing a cheapish AAV deal with term for a contender (don't blame him after bouncing around for years). Probably 4 years $3.5M or something like that. Too much term for a bottom pairing with what we have coming in the next few years there.

- I'd imagine if we are giving term to a RHD (4-5 years) it is for someone that Warso/Grier see more as a 4 than a 6. That guy is Andrew Peeke I think (and have been prognosticating for over a year now), who is also a couple of years younger than Vinny.

- It may or may not be tomorrow, but we will make a trade for Morgan Rielly to run PP1. Not really many other options out there that have run NHL PP's before and one of the few veteran options that seemingly prefer to come west rather than stay out east.

 

[KirbyDots]

Predictions for tomorrow:

- Fact that Desharnais is still not re-signed and RHD market is thin and getting term, I think he is gone tomorrow and signing a cheapish AAV deal with term for a contender (don't blame him after bouncing around for years). Probably 4 years $3.5M or something like that. Too much term for a bottom pairing with what we have coming in the next few years there.

- I'd imagine if we are giving term to a RHD (4-5 years) it is for someone that Warso/Grier see more as a 4 than a 6. That guy is Andrew Peeke I think (and have been prognosticating for over a year now), who is also a couple of years younger than Vinny.

- It may or may not be tomorrow, but we will make a trade for Morgan Rielly to run PP1. Not really many other options out there that have run NHL PP's before and one of the few veteran options that seemingly prefer to come west rather than stay out east.

I could see Peeke, he played for Warso at the worlds too. If Desharnais goes we're going to need another righty shot. Seems like the plan is to have Pohlkamp start with the Cuda.

 

[SjMilhouse]

Prediction for tomorrow. Sharks sign Eric Comrie #insider

 

[sampler]

my prediction is either trouba 3x9m per or oleksiak 2x 5m per.

 

[STL Shark]

I could see Peeke, he played for Warso at the worlds too. If Desharnais goes we're going to need another righty shot. Seems like the plan is to have Pohlkamp start with the Cuda.

I think it’s Peeke+Kesselring on the right and then one of Orlov/Mukh playing their off side. I’ve earmarked Peeke basically since they won gold at IIHF in 2025 for that reason. Could maybe add a Blankenburg to compete for that #6 spot and run a PP too I suppose.

Just don’t see us landing the top of the market guys nor do I see us loading up on a ton of long-term contracts for a lot of average guys either. Needle to thread there, but need someone to play the tough mins.

Also don’t won’t to clog up the pipeline on the right side too much to where there is dead money sitting around should Pohlkamp win a job in camp or even next year when it’s likely Pohlkamp vs Verhoeff for the last RD spot behind Kesselring/Peeke. Need to find a short term option or one that is a lock to hold down a spot for multiple years.

 

[Jargon]

Predictions for tomorrow:

- Fact that Desharnais is still not re-signed and RHD market is thin and getting term, I think he is gone tomorrow and signing a cheapish AAV deal with term for a contender (don't blame him after bouncing around for years). Probably 4 years $3.5M or something like that. Too much term for a bottom pairing with what we have coming in the next few years there.

- I'd imagine if we are giving term to a RHD (4-5 years) it is for someone that Warso/Grier see more as a 4 than a 6. That guy is Andrew Peeke I think (and have been prognosticating for over a year now), who is also a couple of years younger than Vinny.

- It may or may not be tomorrow, but we will make a trade for Morgan Rielly to run PP1. Not really many other options out there that have run NHL PP's before and one of the few veteran options that seemingly prefer to come west rather than stay out east.

Makes a ton of sense.

Orlov - Kesselring
Reilly - Muhk
Dickinson - Peeke

Or something. Not exactly sure how they’d run but I kinda think Warsofsky is going to give Kesselring a lot of rope and build up his confidence. Orlov feels like a really nice steady presence for him.

It’s honestly a much better D than we had last season, imo.

 

[Hodge]

So Thomas Harley probably realizes Dallas tried to trade him and failed...can either party come back from that?

 

[STL Shark]

Makes a ton of sense.

Orlov - Kesselring
Reilly - Muhk
Dickinson - Peeke

Or something. Not exactly sure how they’d run but I kinda think Warsofsky is going to give Kesselring a lot of rope and build up his confidence. Orlov feels like a really nice steady presence for him.

It’s honestly a much better D than we had last season, imo.

My guess would be flip Peeke/Kesselring just because he’s going to lean on that potential Orlov-Peeke pairing as his shutdown group.

I also think Dickinson-Kesselring is a fun pairing to grow together as big boys that can skate and have some offense.

Mukh is the piece that doesn’t fit really in the puzzle so trying to find where he goes is hard. It’s an easier group to project if he’s dealt and we bring in a more proven piece, but Grier still seems to like him.

 

[jMoneyBrah]

Woof. The Werenski situation is getting spicy!

 

[Jargon]

Werenski rejects a trade to Dallas. I’m a real proponent of players forcing the issue and getting to play where they want (there’s no league without these guys) but man, what a rough summer for CBJ fans, really feel bad for them.

 

[Friday]

Werenski rejects a trade to Dallas. I’m a real proponent of players forcing the issue and getting to play where they want (there’s no league without these guys) but man, what a rough summer for CBJ fans, really feel bad for them.

It’s getting a little annoying they all want to play for the same 3 teams though

 

[KirbyDots]

It’s getting a little annoying they all want to play for the same 3 teams though

Yeah, the next cba needs to do something about the ntc/nmc shit. It's getting tiresome.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Yeah, the next cba needs to do something about the ntc/nmc shit. It's getting tiresome.

What can be done really? There’s no way they can cba them out of existence. A player should have some ability to protect themselves in their careers.

 

[Pavelski2112]

It’s getting a little annoying they all want to play for the same 3 teams though

It doesn't matter because they can't literally all go to the same place. That's what the cap is for.

I wasn't watching as much hockey at the time, but did people complain this much about something like the '02 Wings?

 

[KirbyDots]

So Thomas Harley probably realizes Dallas tried to trade him and failed...can either party come back from that?

Hope he demands a trade... to the Sharks!

 

[ChompChomp]

Hope he demands a trade... to the Sharks!

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Per the sportsnet article I read, he wants to stay in the Eastern Conference. Probably the big reason he vetoed a trade to Dallas.

 

[KirbyDots]

My guess would be flip Peeke/Kesselring just because he’s going to lean on that potential Orlov-Peeke pairing as his shutdown group.

I also think Dickinson-Kesselring is a fun pairing to grow together as big boys that can skate and have some offense.

Mukh is the piece that doesn’t fit really in the puzzle so trying to find where he goes is hard. It’s an easier group to project if he’s dealt and we bring in a more proven piece, but Grier still seems to like him.

Still feel like we need at least one more dman. Also, I dislike the idea of Reilly or Nurse.

Per the sportsnet article I read, he wants to stay in the Eastern Conference. Probably the big reason he vetoed a trade to Dallas.

I was talking about Harley...

 

[ChompChomp]

I was talking about Harley...

Ohhhhh, I can work with that!

 

[KirbyDots]

Mukh is the piece that doesn’t fit really in the puzzle so trying to find where he goes is hard. It’s an easier group to project if he’s dealt and we bring in a more proven piece, but Grier still seems to like him.

Trade Muk for Nickishin it is! Warsofsky demands a limit on Russians. That's why Kurashev had to go, half Russian. That, and he was not good at hockey.

 

[Friday]

Anyways, MG go get Harley now

 

[KirbyDots]

Anyways, MG go get Harley now

Great player, 24 years of age, fits our rebuild and needs. They could use the capspace to re-sign Robo and use the picks to replace Harley. Everybody wins!!!

 

[Friday]

Great player, 24 years of age, fits our rebuild and needs. They could use the capspace to re-sign Robo and use the picks to replace Harley. Everybody wins!!!

I bet Dallas has received calls from 20 teams after that news dropped haha. But seriously should make an offer. Sounds like hes low key available