Speculation: 2023-24-25-26 Sharks Roster Discussion

[Jargon]

He's definitely more ready than Eklund which is why Ek needed like a year and a half to get used to it. Sten should start in the AHL for a month or so unless he absolutely beats the pants off anyone else he's competing against. As it stands right now there's a lot of development needed in the top 6, as in basically everyone pencilled in. There's like a combined 5 seasons worth of experience in the six spots combined which is nuts.

I also think anyone expecting a mack-level impact is asking for a LOT.

It’s definitely asking a lot, I just think he’s that good. We’ll see though.

I do see Grier wanting to add a big top 6 guy to play with Misa/Sten (or that 2nd line in general) but I think he’d only do it if he could add like a Knies-level guy. Otherwise, it’s Graf/Toffoli on line 2/3 and Musty/Bystedt/Lund have a chance to take that spot if they come into camp gangbusters.

 

[WSS11]

Officially freeeeeeeeeee

 

[Friday]

The fact MG didn’t get a 1st or 2nd outta him is kinda annoying but oh well the Sharks own the rights to every fun prospect anyways

 

[STL Shark]

I think if Stenberg is regularly getting time on one of the top 2 lines and scores somewhere in the 50-60 pt range, people should be very happy. That's in line with the Sennecke/Demidov/Snuggerud level of rookie season. If he scores more than that, people should be elated.

He will have more support than Celebrini had.

I am basically hoping for somewhere around a half PPG from him. That represents a step up from his NHLe total of ~33 I think in the SHL last year. Now if he plays with Celebrini/Smith, that expectation goes way up, but I suspect he will be with Wennberg probably as a veteran presence which will curb his scoring output a decent bit.

Long-term, makes sense with Misa, but don't want to have Misa continuing to learn while also bringing another rookie along for the ride with him. Makes sense to pair centers up Mack/Smith, Berg Line, and Misa/Toffoli Roommates.

 

[Jargon]

The fact MG didn’t get a 1st or 2nd outta him is kinda annoying but oh well the Sharks own the rights to every fun prospect anyways

I think if there’s one thing Grier has shown it’s that there’s a price for most of his players and no one ever met that price with Mario. I’m sure he got some sub par offers during the trade line but ultimately decided they weren’t worth messing up the team vibe for a low 2nd or something.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

He's definitely more ready than Eklund which is why Ek needed like a year and a half to get used to it. Sten should start in the AHL for a month or so unless he absolutely beats the pants off anyone else he's competing against. As it stands right now there's a lot of development needed in the top 6, as in basically everyone pencilled in. There's like a combined 5 seasons worth of experience in the six spots combined which is nuts.

I also think anyone expecting a mack-level impact is asking for a LOT.

Eklund didn't need a year and a half to get used to it. Eklund was kept away from it because the teams were garbage and he could develop elsewhere without burning his ELC. If Stenberg stepped into the 2021-22 Sharks team instead of Eklund, they probably would've sent him back to the SHL too. If Eklund at 18 stepped into this year's team, he's probably an NHL'er too.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Stenberg at 19 is going to look meaningfully better in the NHL than Smith at 19 or Misa at 18. I think the latter two could be better players in the end but Stenberg is clearly more NHL ready than either were in their rookie seasons. No doubt in my mind.

 

[Friday]

I think if there’s one thing Grier has shown it’s that there’s a price for most of his players and no one ever met that price with Mario. I’m sure he got some sub par offers during the trade line but ultimately decided they weren’t worth messing up the team vibe for a low 2nd or something.

I’m just pick happy that’s all haha

 

[sharski]

I think if there’s one thing Grier has shown it’s that there’s a price for most of his players and no one ever met that price with Mario. I’m sure he got some sub par offers during the trade line but ultimately decided they weren’t worth messing up the team vibe for a low 2nd or something.

yeah I was shocked that Ferraro wasn't dealt at last year's TDL but i take GMMG at his word that he basically threw the locker room a bone to not trade him and let them go for it

also i think he was definitely lowballed like nothing near a 1st got offered which made the decision easier... basically trading a 3rd round pick for a couple months of vibez which i think in the long run was a meaninful experience for those kids

 

[STL Shark]

The fact MG didn’t get a 1st or 2nd outta him is kinda annoying but oh well the Sharks own the rights to every fun prospect anyways

Wanted a 1st and not getting worked down by time/leverage for that 2nd rounder that we didn't really need will probably go further for his GM reputation than the draft pick would have.

If other GMs know they can always just wait you out, you're doomed so I get why he held to his price tag even if I don't think Ferraro is good and is probably going to get the worst contract handed out tomorrow.

 

[OrrNumber4]

The fact MG didn’t get a 1st or 2nd outta him is kinda annoying but oh well the Sharks own the rights to every fun prospect anyways

I think Grier, like DW, subscribes to the "assets to fill space" ideology, where he doesn't like to acquire a bunch of picks to draft players that the organization won't have room to play.

 

[Friday]

I think Grier, like DW, subscribes to the "assets to fill space" ideology, where he doesn't like to acquire a bunch of picks to draft players that the organization won't have room to play.

I sub to the we have an extra 2nd to move up 8 spots in the draft camp. Or here’s an extra 2nd for a Sherwood type trade. Either way I’m fine with itttt I guess

 

[OrrNumber4]

I think Grier, like DW, subscribes to the "assets to fill space" ideology, where he doesn't like to acquire a bunch of picks to draft players that the organization won't have room to play.

100%. I agree. But it appears that Grier does not like to sweat those details

 

[Hodge]

I think Grier, like DW, subscribes to the "assets to fill space" ideology, where he doesn't like to acquire a bunch of picks to draft players that the organization won't have room to play.

Or, more logically, he valued Ferraro's contributions to a playoff push combined with holding his exclusive UFA negotiating rights more than a late 2nd.

 

[Patty Ice]

The fact MG didn’t get a 1st or 2nd outta him is kinda annoying but oh well the Sharks own the rights to every fun prospect anyways

18 hours of UFA rights to Ferraro for Reilly seems about right.

 

[one2gamble]

18 hours of UFA rights to Ferraro for Reilly seems about right.

reilly@50% retained maybe

 

[the dangler]

for real, I play intermediate adult roller hockey as a center and I’m pretty sure I’d get a deal with this group.

depends...how tall are you?
:p

 

[OrrNumber4]

It's strange to see all this reporting about players going to teams...I thought that teams and players were not allowed to talk until July 1.

 

[matt trick]

It's strange to see all this reporting about players going to teams...I thought that teams and players were not allowed to talk until July 1.

Yeah, it's been said for some time that Raddysh and Bob were definitely going to Toronto. Thought it was Leaf's are the center of the universe perspective, but feels like tampering.

 

[TheBeard]

Yeah, it's been said for some time that Raddysh and Bob were definitely going to Toronto. Thought it was Leaf's are the center of the universe perspective, but feels like tampering.

Well they did trade for Raddysh's rights.

 

[Jargon]

I wonder if Marchment would be an interesting pick up. It really solidifies that Misa line… but then of course we don’t have room for one of Sherwood, Graf and Toffoli.

 

[BaybayShark]

 

[Bizz]

To Tampa: Werenski
To SJ: Hedman
To Columbus: stuff

 

[the dangler]

I thought tampa was up against the cap which is why they let raddysh walk.

 

[KirbyDots]

I thought tampa was up against the cap which is why they let raddysh walk.

Why they say it needs to be a 3 way trade. They also might be talking out of their asses.