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Rumor: 2023-2024 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Offseason Edition

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the_fan said:
Just listening to Avs pods. Also when Avs make big moves, they usually make them early in the offseason. I think they would make it before the draft
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Avs have made most of their big moves between the day before the draft and on July 1 (or first day of free agency with these weird past couple of years).
 
henchman21 said:
Avs have made most of their big moves between the day before the draft and on July 1 (or first day of free agency with these weird past couple of years).
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Well draft is in 6 days, I guess something could happen, and Avs are usually quiet before making trades and stuff. Just wondering what the plan is for a team that needs some decent size changes
 
IIRC, Barrie was traded the evening of UFA day when we all thought the Avs missed out again on aquiring a 2C. That Girard is still around today really doesn't mean much.
 
Ararana said:
IIRC, Barrie was traded the evening of UFA day when we all thought the Avs missed out again on aquiring a 2C. That Girard is still around today really doesn't mean much.
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I just don’t get the sense that they gonna trade Girard. Of course my senses mean nothing, but just what I’m feeling
 
henchman21 said:
IMO the Avs clearly don't value centers as highly as we do around here, and certainly not as much as the league does. If they did, they'd have devoted more cap space to the position and made bigger moves over the years. That doesn't mean they won't address the 2C (or 3C) vacancy, but they haven't shown signs that it is a huge priority either.
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Which is insanely weird given the team is run by a guy who had the most success of his career running 1/2 with Forsberg down the middle and Ricci/Yelle behind them.
 
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henchman21 said:
IMO the Avs clearly don't value centers as highly as we do around here, and certainly not as much as the league does. If they did, they'd have devoted more cap space to the position and made bigger moves over the years. That doesn't mean they won't address the 2C (or 3C) vacancy, but they haven't shown signs that it is a huge priority either.
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They do value it. They won 3 cups being strong down the middle. Every team winning the cup needs to be strong down the middle. They wouldn’t win it last year without Naz. The salary cap just preventing the Avs to get a 2C and sign for long term.
 
Am I too impatient or does it seem very quiet for speculation around the league?

Excited for the chaos..

Byram and Newhook for PLD and Schiefele
 
Ararana said:
A Dubois extension could be done if they decide to not keep Toews. But you're almost guauranteed to be kissing Mikko goodbye next summer (honestly, we should be preparing ourselves for that anyway).

Landy being on LTIR all year opens up all kinds of one-year possibilities and allows them to push hard decisions down the road to next summer. AKA Toews walks for nothing.
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Lol what..
 
the_fan said:
They do value it. They won 3 cups being strong down the middle. Every team winning the cup needs to be strong down the middle. They wouldn’t win it last year without Naz. The salary cap just preventing the Avs to get a 2C and sign for long term.
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Since Stastny left in 2014, the Avs have been declining in center quality overall. There are spurts up, but they don't tend to spend a lot of money at the position and they don't tend to make moves to fill the position until it is a clear eyesore. The only quality #2C they have brought into the organization since 2014 has been Kadri. They've done moves like Soda as a middle 6 guy, drafted guys like Jost/Newhook, and gotten prospects like Compher and Kerfoot... they have not actually brought in that many #2Cs. You could make the same argument for 3Cs... they went the path of the young guys to fill the role and Soda (who was miscast as a 2C here). The rest have been partial fixes at best... Nameste, Eller, Brassard, etc.

The center depth in the 2022 run was a bit of lightning in a bottle... MacK clearly elite, but Kadri had a career year playing at a 1C level, and Compher arguably had his best playoff run and played at his peak. Prior to 21-22, Kadri played at an average 2C level and Compher/Jost/rando were below replacement level 3C.

Again though, nothing here is saying they won't make a move for centers (IMO they clearly have to do at least something)... but they clearly have not put a priority on the position in a decade.

Taak said:
Lol what..
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The implication here is Rants is going to price himself off the team and get traded. I don't think he'll get traded, but he's gonna watch the new big contracts come in at 13-14m and want his cut. His next AAV is at least 12 and could be 13-13.5.
 
dahrougem2 said:
Which is insanely weird given the team is run by a guy who had the most success of his career running 1/2 with Forsberg down the middle and Ricci/Yelle behind them.
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That Avs team failed in my books they should have won more than 2 Cups honestly

Petterson would give us that 1/ 2 punch with Laughton at 3 C but it would take Makar and no one is willing to even discuss that and I get it.
 
Taak said:
Lol what..
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Pretty much what Hench said but I think they end up trading him. He's already priced himself out IMO, and he's a pending UFA next summer. Crazy how fast 5 year contracts go by.

The Avs can't keep everyone. Paying 13+ AAV for a winger while the team continues to get cratered without a proper 2C would be a moronic decision.

IMO keeping Toews is the death nail on keeping Rantanen. Unfortunately, I 100% expect them to keep Toews.
 
Alienblood said:
That Avs team failed in my books they should have won more than 2 Cups honestly

Petterson would give us that 1/ 2 punch with Laughton at 3 C but it would take Makar and no one is willing to even discuss that and I get it.
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Toews (who might leave in a year) Girard Byram Manson.

That's your defense without Makar and that's a defense that would be improved by adding Myers and OEL. As in its worse than the Canucks.
 
Ararana said:
Pretty much what Hench said but I think they end up trading him. He's already priced himself out IMO, and he's a pending UFA next summer. Crazy how fast 5 year contracts go by.

The Avs can't keep everyone. Paying 13+ AAV for a winger while the team continues to get cratered without a proper 2C would be a moronic decision.

IMO keeping Toews is the death nail on keeping Rantanen. Unfortunately, I 100% expect them to keep Toews.
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Rantanen at C. Solves two problems.
 


Here's Baugh with confirmation (although I already believed Kaplan).

I would say that I'm sure the Avs would bring him back if his market doesn't develop and they can get him for somewhere between 1-2M max, and for only 1 year, but I'm pretty sure he'll have multi-year offers for at least 2M, and likely more.

I think he can net a 3 year deal for anywhere from 3.5-4.5M AAV
 
Feel for EJ that he has to wear the Ducks crappy jerseys, they could easily have the best look in the league but they decided otherwise
 
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Hope Cogliano is healthy enough to play another season. Landeskog, Cogs and to a lesser degree, EJ are the only guys in that room who can pull Mackinnon back to centre.
 
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RockLobster said:


Here's Baugh with confirmation (although I already believed Kaplan).

I would say that I'm sure the Avs would bring him back if his market doesn't develop and they can get him for somewhere between 1-2M max, and for only 1 year, but I'm pretty sure he'll have multi-year offers for at least 2M, and likely more.

I think he can net a 3 year deal for anywhere from 3.5-4.5M AAV
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I'd really feel for a team signing him to that. IMO he's going to get a 2-3 year deal around $2-2.5m.
 
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Cousin Eddie said:
Hope Cogliano is healthy enough to play another season. Landeskog, Cogs and to a lesser degree, EJ are the only guys in that room who can pull Mackinnon back to centre.
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MacK to the locker room:

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