If Barbie is only asking for low to mid 4s, Vegas will find a way to keep him. Even probably upto 5-5.25 they'll find a way.
Rumor: 2023-2024 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Offseason Edition
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dahrougem2
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Who’s gonna have a fake season ending injury in their preseason? Then magically be back for game 1
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Lehner is likely getting bought out or LTIR. With his structure a buyout saves 4.25m. They have about 3.5m in space now, so that puts them at 7.75m. With 11F 8D 1G. They can demote Korczak to get to 8.5m. Sign Barbie for 5 and then have 3.5m to sign a goalie (probably Brossoit) and an extra forward (Howden). Then they have a 13F 7D 2G setup that is probably slightly under the cap.
dahrougem2
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Let's be honest here Mark Stone is going on LTIR the second his back "flares up" and he'll come back for game 1 of the playoffs.
I'm guessing he plays around 35 games next season.
I'm guessing he plays around 35 games next season.
BobRossColton
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Woof!Daily Faceoff (Seravalli's site) projection for upcoming UFA's:
Compher 3rd biggest UFA contract
Wouldn't be all that surprised if we sign one or both of Barbashev and ROR.
That'll be for their trade deadline adds... not for this summer.
Vegas is actually in a pretty good position cap wise this summer. Lehner's buyout is cheap. Their most expensive RFA is Howden (probably a long term ~2m deal coming there). They have Thompson on a dirt cheap contract. Showed any goalie can play well enough there (so Hill isn't a necessity to re-sign). And Barbie is the only expensive UFA. All of that with around $8m in space.
Now 2024 gets dicey since some raises and UFAs come due (Marchy, Martinez, Stephenson, Carrier). Knowing Vegas, they'll be willing to make the 'hard' decision and let at least Martinez walk and likely Carrier too. Stephenson gets a way too long extension to bring the cap down. Marchy will be the interesting one.
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AvsGuy
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AvalancheSpeedsters
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Yep.
LTIR was a great concept but was poorly written and way too easy to abuse. For a team like the Avs where Landy legit won't hit the ice for 2 full seasons or more LTIR works well and is being used in the proper manner. The guy legit can't play and isn't going to magically show up in the playoffs.
However this crap Tampa started with Kuch and Vegas has abused with Stone, where a guy "misses" the whole/most/some of the regular season just to be fine game 1 of the playoffs is shit.
Never understood why you don't have to just be cap compliant in the playoffs. It would fix this loophole instantly.
It started with Chicago...
Tampa was either the only or one of the only teams that wanted to shut it down after Chicago, when there was zero temperature across the league to do so. If nobody wanted to fix it (and no one really does), then you should use it to your advantage.
That said with all of this, there still has to be an injury and there still has to be proper documentation. That doesn't mean you can't time things, but it can't come out of thin air.
dahrougem2
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That's the thing - I'm not doubting injuries here. The timelines, though, are WAY too convenient for teams. That's something that cannot be moderated because teams can just say "we wanted to exhaust all options before this" etc, etc.
That is what I believe the problem is.
Yeah, it is pretty much impossible to moderate. Stone had back surgery Jan 31 and was back on April 18. That's only 11 weeks... most back surgeries are ~3-6 months for athletes. So is it that Stone came back a bit early that it was convenient? Or was it that he was ready in say 9 weeks and delayed? You can say the same with Kuch or Kane.
I do believe they are deliberately timed surgeries to get the players back in time for the playoffs, but I don't think you can effectively police that. Hell, the Avs did that with Landy's knee. They just didn't go crazy on LTIR.
The solution is a playoff cap, but there is really zero desire to have that league wide. Not from the players, not the owners, not the GMs... so since that is the case, play the game.
It is usually a day longer even! Most of the buyouts will probably happen between tomorrow and the end of next week.
dahrougem2
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Which you need two things for:
1) An owner willing to dip into LTIR
2) A GM willing and capable of making necessary moves
Who knows if the Avs have either right now.
Ararana
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Agreed... we will probably get an answer this summer, but right now we just don't know.
AvsGuy
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I'd happily keep JT Compher if he hadn't priced himself out this season. At $3.5 he's a great middle 6 player, and proves it exponentially in the clutch. At $5 million +, he's just not worth the dice roll game to game
At 3.5 a guy who can play middle 6 at ES, PP and PK and all positions is valuable.
Look at what 3.5 buys in UFA forwards. JT Stanley Cup champion C is way above what you can get to replace him.
When JTC is playing well, he's worth 5+ in this market. When JTC is not playing well, he's worth 1.5m in this market. You just never know who you are going to get game to game, month to month, and year to year. He got WAY too much hate for years, but he's getting WAY too much love this season. He's a fine player, but at this point, he's a luxury the Avs cannot afford.
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