Rumor: 2023-2024 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Off-season is in full swing

[AvsFan2123]

This will be hard to phrase so I’ll try my best. I don’t understand the frustration behind the whole “not every problem has been solved to start the year so there’s no hope and I hate CMac”. The Avs added Manson, Lehkonen, Cogliano, and Sturm around the deadline. Picked up NAK on waivers. So yes obviously this isn’t the lineup I want either, but you don’t have to start the year with every problem solved. Some things to consider I haven’t seen mentioned a whole lot;

- Can JLF grab that 3RW spot and push LOC down to his better suited 4RW spot?
- There’s still cap, time, and players left to add either on the third or fourth lines to push Meyers into scratch territory. I think we’ll definitely see one more F add.
- I personally have traded MacDermid on my CapFriendly shenanigans, but that could be too much of a shakeup to the group. I agree his $987K could be better used.
- I’m pretty close to buying into the little hype train for Pavel. Sounds like he’s going to be a fantastic 4th liner but with limited offense. Maybe he makes team out of camp?
- Kovalenko is coming so he’ll push someone down. Can almost guarantee they throw him on the projected 3rd line of Wood and Colton. But knowing our injuries he’ll be top 6 by then.
- Waivers. Someone else said it I saw. They love their waivers. Someone good enough to push Olofsson or Meyers out will almost certainly hit waivers around camp/cuts time.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

This will be hard to phrase so I’ll try my best. I don’t understand the frustration behind the whole “not every problem has been solved to start the year so there’s no hope and I hate CMac”. The Avs added Manson, Lehkonen, Cogliano, and Sturm around the deadline. Picked up NAK on waivers. So yes obviously this isn’t the lineup I want either, but you don’t have to start the year with every problem solved. Some things to consider I haven’t seen mentioned a whole lot;

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Once. The Avs were legitimate, aggressive buyers one single time during the entire cup window so far.


So quite frankly, yeah it makes sense for people to be pretty frustrated if we do go into next season with the roster we have here today and no more moves are made.


That being said I think people are getting frustrated way to early. If training camp starts and we still haven't done anything, by all means get the pitch forks out.


But the last weekend of July feels way too early for people to be getting this frustrated. They still have almost two months before training camps start. We didn't sign ERod until September 12th last year.

Let's wait and see if they do anything else this summer before jumping to conclusions IMO.


The team probably needs ~2 more forwards to be the top contender in the West IMO(A legit 4C and a Top 9 forward that can ideally play C or Wing well), but if they grab one guy before the season starts, I think they'll be I'm great shape leading up to the trade deadline at least.


I also don't think the 4C spot is 100% for sure a weakness yet. Let's see what Meyers can do with it now that he's got a full year of pro play under his belt, or if Pavel gets a chance in the role let's see what he can bring to the table.


I think the Avs are going to sign Tatar before training camp. He's not the most ideal candidate for the Top 9 since he is strictly a winger and he's questionable in playoff ability... But he's a proven 20G, 50 point forward in the regular season and adding that kind of offense to our Top 9 will absolutely make us better.

Then perhaps he's the guy you move at the deadline to get the cap space to add a more trustworthy playoff performer.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

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SIAP. This is nothing in return if that's all it takes. Avs could have done that in a 3-team deal with Duchene retained at 50% and given Nashville a bag of pucks.

 

[Balthazar]

The defense needs to be addressed first.

Currently we have:

Jack Johnson at #6. As much as I like him JJ will turn 37 in January. At that age the wheels can fall off any day. One year they are ok, the following year they can't play anymore.

MacDermid at #7: Shouldnt play one more shift at defense in the NHL.

and we have 3 injury prone dmen in Byram, Makar and Manson (I'm not even counting Girard).

MacDermid and Hunt will be playing defense by the 3rd week of the regular season. That doesn't work.

We need to add at least one more right handed NHL caliber defenseman. That's a more pressing issue than replacing LOC on the 3rd line.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

The defense needs to be addressed first

Does it really?

The Dcore is pretty much the strongest part of the roster. Another bottom pairing guy would be nice. However, all attention and limited cap space should be spent on fixing the forwards.

 

[Balthazar]

Does it really?

It does. I just clearly explained why.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

It does. I just clearly explained why.

We have Drouin in the top six, LOC on the 3rd and questionable center depth.

The defense is absolutely wonderful compared to the forwards.

 

[Balthazar]

We have Drouin in the top six, LOC on the 3rd and questionable center depth.

The defense is absolutely wonderful compared to the forwards.

It's wonderful when healthy we have 0 depth and injury prone players.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

I'm starting to think that we might not even got the PTO route this fall. CMac is probably just waiting for the waiver wire to provide depth and competition.

 

[dahrougem2]

It does. I just clearly explained why.

It is not realistic unless the Avs find a 3rd pair RHD for super cheap

 

[EdAVSfan]

The Avs have 5 guys who conceivably play top 4 minutes. Manson is really the only guy out of that bunch that you don’t want too many minutes from. But he can easily be your 4th highest ice time among D in case there’s an injury.

The Avs have Hunt, Macdermid, Malinski and JJ as a rotation for 6th and 7th D.

Right now, IMO, the forwards need more help. Another 3rd liner who can either play center in spurts or who can play as a complimentary top 6 in case of injuries is more important.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

It's wonderful when healthy we have 0 depth and injury prone players.

The offense has even less depth, not sure how this is even debatable. The Avs forwards get injured all the time as well so that situation isn't much better either.

In a perfect world they add depth all over the roster. However, the cap is a thing and there is barely any room for anything. Naturally they should focus on the biggest weakness, the forwards.

 

[Balthazar]

The offense has even less depth, not sure how this even debatable.

What? Our #6 dman is turning 37 this season and our #7 is Kurtis MacDermid.

MacDermid and Hunt playing hurts the team a lot more than LOC and whatever 4th liner you bring up from the Eagles.

And when they suck too much Bednar overplays the top pair like a madman which leads to Makar getting injured and Toews running out of gas.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

What? Our #6 dman is turning 37 this season and our #7 is Kurtis MacDermid.

We have one of the best Dcores in the entire league, yes more depth would still be nice.

The forward situation is clearly not as impressive.

With very limited cap space why does improving the teams biggest strength become the priority?

 

[The Abusement Park]

What? Our #6 dman is turning 37 this season and our #7 is Kurtis MacDermid.

MacDermid and Hunt playing hurts the team a lot more than LOC and whatever 4th liner you bring up from the Eagles.

And when they suck too much Bednar overplays the top pair like a madman which leads to Makar getting injured ans Toews running out of gas.

As opposed to when Bednar overplays Mackinnon and Rantanen leading to them getting imjured and running out of gas because our bottom 6 is literally not capable of scoring a goal?

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

The Defense is the absolute last thing this team needs help with. They have five Top 4D. Most teams don't even have 4 of those guys, some don't even have 3.

For now, any cap space spent absolutely needs to be spent on the forwards. We only have ~4 legit top 6 forwards, most contenders at least have 5, if not 6 or even 7 of those.


They need another Top 9 foreard that provides a decent chunk of offense, and another Center most likely.

In terms of pure UFAs, Tatar + Toews would be pretty good adds. If they go the trade route before the season starts(Highly unlikely IMO), Laughton from Philly would be great, obviously Backlund or Lindholm would be excellent too

 

[shadow1]

The defense needs to be addressed first.

Currently we have:

Jack Johnson at #6. As much as I like him JJ will turn 37 in January. At that age the wheels can fall off any day. One year they are ok, the following year they can't play anymore.

MacDermid at #7: Shouldnt play one more shift at defense in the NHL.

and we have 3 injury prone dmen in Byram, Makar and Manson (I'm not even counting Girard).

MacDermid and Hunt will be playing defense by the 3rd week of the regular season. That doesn't work.

We need to add at least one more right handed NHL caliber defenseman. That's a more pressing issue than replacing LOC on the 3rd line.

On a team where Makar and Toews play 25+ minutes per night, I don't think strengthening the #6 defense spot is a critical need.

Jack Johnson was good last year. Yes, he's old, but he's only a little older than Cogliano. There's no reason to worry about the wheels falling off until they actually do.

As far as injuries go, Hunt played 47 games (28-13-6) last year. Malinski is going to play next year. Schueneman has NHL experience. If those guys don't work out, a 3rd round pick (or less) was enough to land Gostisbehere, Klingberg, Kulikov, and Schenn at last year's deadline.

If MacFarland signs a D for league min, I'll welcome it with open arms. But not if it comes at the expense of the forward group, which is in desperate need of bottom-6 depth.

 

[AvsFan2123]

Something else that could happen. Avs always get their guy right? And it seems our top guys Mack and Mikko have some pull. Signing Puljujarvi to a 1x1 and sticking him on LTIR? Could be fresh and join lineup whenever he’s ready. I’m sure someone will be hurt by then and he could be a better option than Chris Wagner or Cal Burke being the call-up.

 

[forsbergavs32]

At this point I mainly want a 3RW to push LOC down to the 4th line. Him and Cogs can insulate Meyers, leaving us with a solid top 9, then see if we can address depth via waivers/deadline.

 

[the_fan]

At this point I mainly want a 3RW to push LOC down to the 4th line. Him and Cogs can insulate Meyers, leaving us with a solid top 9, then see if we can address depth via waivers/deadline.

We’ll have one sometime in March…

Kovalenko

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

At this point I mainly want a 3RW to push LOC down to the 4th line. Him and Cogs can insulate Meyers, leaving us with a solid top 9, then see if we can address depth via waivers/deadline.

Agreed, this is the one main move left in the summer I'd like to see them make.


And while I am a broken record at this point, I really do think they get Tatar ultimately.

 

[Avs_19]

At this point I mainly want a 3RW to push LOC down to the 4th line. Him and Cogs can insulate Meyers, leaving us with a solid top 9, then see if we can address depth via waivers/deadline.

Tatar.

 

[Sea Eagles]

Right wing Chris Wagner, who played 2 NHL games in the last 2 seasons is our 4C???

Yes, the very same veteran who has played 360 regular season NHL games, and 59 playoff games across a number of teams and cultures, and who is still but 32.

Also not sure if you're aware that he was employed by Boston (who came 1st overall, and was very deep) last season?

The same Chris Wagner that has experience in our city and with our team previously.

 

[Sea Eagles]

I think, especially playing alongside XXXXX, the "Beast from Alpha Centauri", that Wagner can thrive at 4C.

And while you're trying to make fun of my selections, by demeaning my opinion, I left the XXXXX like that because of the number of potential options available (i.e. Olofsson, Ranta, Macdermid at a stretch, Meyers, Kovalenko eventually).

 

[Sea Eagles]

Don't be too premature to write Weekes off guys after 12 games, in a very disrupted squad playing out of position. For many years, he's been a class above (similar to Olakau'atu, Schuster, Koula & himself).

I really, REALLY hope we stick with him, and give him a chance.

EDIT: What the hell....it's 6.27am, and I literally wrote this for another board hahaha - I've got dark theme on and they looked exactly the same hahahaha)