2023-2024 Playoff Tracker - updated after each DET game

[Shultzyfeelinirie25]

Flyers and Devils win man damn

 

[lilidk]

I don't know if Red Wings just didn't show up on game against Carolina , but I don't wanna meet them in the first round

 

[Henkka]

There are 8 teams having a winning record from last 10 games at the playoff battle.

Current playoff pairings would be:

Atlantic:
BOS - TBL (worse wild card will go against better Division winner)
FLO - TOR

Metro:
NYR - DET
CAR - PHI

 

[Gniwder]

Perhaps the reason he’s played like shit is the same reason he’s entered PAP. If he really takes it seriously, he will probably come back into the lineup as a much improved player.

Probably winds up in the same boat as Vrana or Glachenyuk. This isn't a new issue, he tested positive for coke 5 years ago.

I don't know if Red Wings just didn't show up on game against Carolina , but I don't wanna meet them in the first round

The team has issues playing against faster teams. Carolina just puts this team on their heels. I agree they are the worst matchup.

I don't know if Red Wings just didn't show up on game against Carolina , but I don't wanna meet them in the first round

The team has issues playing against faster teams. Carolina just puts this team on their heels. I agree they are the worst matchup.

 

[Holden Caufield]

I don't know if Red Wings just didn't show up on game against Carolina , but I don't wanna meet them in the first round

Beggars can’t be choosers…
I would love to meet Carolina in the 1st round.
That would mean we actually made the playoffs.

 

[lilidk]

Beggars can’t be choosers…
I would love to meet Carolina in the 1st round.
That would mean we actually made the playoffs.

Carolina not going to play against wild card team in the first round, means we could be buyers at the end . My biggest fear to have very good end of the season and got swept in the first round. That's the worst scenario

 

[Detroit Knights]

Carolina not going to play against wild card team in the first round, means we could be buyers at the end . My biggest fear to have very good end of the season and got swept in the first round. That's the worst scenario

we should be ecstatic if we get swept in the first round. That leaves a chip on your shoulder. It also guarantees that seider, raymond, and larkin now tasted playoff hockey and know what level they need to raise their game too.

If we win the first round, i'd be ecstatic. If we win 2 games, I'd be ecstatic. This is the thing, this year, we are definitely not winning the cup and I am perfectly fine with that, so we need the experience now. If we miss the playoffs by some crazy chance this year, then we are at serious risk of becoming buffalo where no real free agents want to go there, have pretty good drafting but can't seem to do anything with it, etc.

be happy we made it to the playoffs. I concur, carolina first round would suck, quite a bit. But we are there.

 

[lilidk]

we should be ecstatic if we get swept in the first round. That leaves a chip on your shoulder. It also guarantees that seider, raymond, and larkin now tasted playoff hockey and know what level they need to raise their game too.

If we win the first round, i'd be ecstatic. If we win 2 games, I'd be ecstatic. This is the thing, this year, we are definitely not winning the cup and I am perfectly fine with that, so we need the experience now. If we miss the playoffs by some crazy chance this year, then we are at serious risk of becoming buffalo where no real free agents want to go there, have pretty good drafting but can't seem to do anything with it, etc.

be happy we made it to the playoffs. I concur, carolina first round would suck, quite a bit. But we are there.

I don't know , I believe we already in the playoffs, the way we played against Vancouver make me believe In this team

 

[Detroit Knights]

I don't know , I believe we already in the playoffs, the way we played against Vancouver make me believe In this team

I will guarantee that we don't win the stanley cup this year lol. I'd put my equity in my house in a bet with you to prove it.

The absolute furthest we are going is second round exit. That just depends on if we acquire through trade this year and who our first round opponent is. If we play rangers, then i hope trochek is injured and he doesn't play, then we have a shot. If we play boston, then I think we could do some damage. If we play carolina, we better not get sucked into playing their game like we have been or it'll be a quick series. After that, we will lose to toronto or florida. If we get the luck of the draw and play NYI or PHI for some strange reason in the second round, then I could see us going a bit further but even then, I don't think that is even a possibility for opponents.

 

[FMichael]

Smell that fresh spring air and playoff hockey back in the Motor City!

 

[jkutswings]

After that, we will lose to toronto or florida. If we get the luck of the draw and play NYI or PHI for some strange reason in the second round, then I could see us going a bit further but even then, I don't think that is even a possibility for opponents.

I agree that Detroit is nowhere near ready to fully contend for a Cup. But I'd be VERY tempted to bet that they could beat Toronto in a playoff series, assuming Lyon is still the guy we've seen lately.

The Leafs are a playoff gas can waiting to happen until they prove otherwise.

 

[lilidk]

I will guarantee that we don't win the stanley cup this year lol. I'd put my equity in my house in a bet with you to prove it.

The absolute furthest we are going is second round exit. That just depends on if we acquire through trade this year and who our first round opponent is. If we play rangers, then i hope trochek is injured and he doesn't play, then we have a shot. If we play boston, then I think we could do some damage. If we play carolina, we better not get sucked into playing their game like we have been or it'll be a quick series. After that, we will lose to toronto or florida. If we get the luck of the draw and play NYI or PHI for some strange reason in the second round, then I could see us going a bit further but even then, I don't think that is even a possibility for opponents.

Second round exit would be very good and actually that was my bold prediction last summer

 

[Detroit Knights]

I agree that Detroit is nowhere near ready to fully contend for a Cup. But I'd be VERY tempted to bet that they could beat Toronto in a playoff series, assuming Lyon is still the guy we've seen lately.

The Leafs are a playoff gas can waiting to happen until they prove otherwise.

True, but I don't have the confidence yet.

Now, if we were to trade out a couple D and get hanifin + edvinsson on the back end with maybe a fabbri + berggren +++ trade for someone like guentzal or buchnevich, then I would be thinking conference finals, but still ecstatic at a second round exit. Maybe throw in a markstrom/saros/vejmelka type goalie in there too.

Honestly, if this was our lineup, then I would be pretty upset if we didn't make the second round lol (no idea if it works for cap, just let that go):

buchnevich/guentzal - larkin - raymond
dbc - compher - kane
ras - copp - fischer
sprong - veleno - kostin

walman - seider
hanifin - petry
edvinsson - chiarot
holl

lyon
markstrom

I just don't see how that lineup doesn't get you an automatic second round appearance, but that's just me.

 

[GarlicbreadTB]

Considering how the playoffs have been the last few years. And with how the playoff system works I don't think any team can think about an automatic 2nd round.

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

Considering that I expected the team to actually have a worse season than they did last year after the draft and July 1st, I would be thrilled with getting swept in the first round.

I just want to sit down for that first playoff game with a slice of pizza and a glass of coke and enjoy some spring hockey again.

 

[saska sault]

True, but I don't have the confidence yet.

Now, if we were to trade out a couple D and get hanifin + edvinsson on the back end with maybe a fabbri + berggren +++ trade for someone like guentzal or buchnevich, then I would be thinking conference finals, but still ecstatic at a second round exit. Maybe throw in a markstrom/saros/vejmelka type goalie in there too.

Honestly, if this was our lineup, then I would be pretty upset if we didn't make the second round lol (no idea if it works for cap, just let that go):

buchnevich/guentzal - larkin - raymond
dbc - compher - kane
ras - copp - fischer
sprong - veleno - kostin

walman - seider
hanifin - petry
edvinsson - chiarot
holl

lyon
markstrom

I just don't see how that lineup doesn't get you an automatic second round appearance, but that's just me.

Nice line up but at what cost. If we have Guentzal, Hanifin and Markstrom I would imagine we gave up 2 of our top 4 or 5 prospects and picks and have yet to even make a playoff series before we paid that price. Suddenly your up coming kids on ELCs need to be impact players soon or you are entering a salary cap crunch very early and your contention window has been cut back substantially.

 

[RedWingzz]

brutal night

 

[Detroit Knights]

Nice line up but at what cost. If we have Guentzal, Hanifin and Markstrom I would imagine we gave up 2 of our top 4 or 5 prospects and picks and have yet to even make a playoff series before we paid that price. Suddenly your up coming kids on ELCs need to be impact players soon or you are entering a salary cap crunch very early and your contention window has been cut back substantially.

TLDR;I know it is a lot to get rid of, but in the end, it may be worth it as the proper players get put in the proper spots in the roster. We lose some valuable prospects for proven players. Markstrom being old, is the only thing I see could be an issue, but with him playing most likely backup to lyon for 2 years, we could make way for cossa much easier as the backup to lyon.

in the guentzal trade board, I put in buium + berggren + 1st + Ghost. Yeah we lose berggren, but I am good with losing the rest for a guentzel/buchnevich top 6 player. I just feel like yzerman and company just don't want to continue with berggren at this point (i am undecided because I can see the argument from both sides).

I don't think Hanifin would cost as much as people would like to believe, but if we were to get an extension, I wouldn't mind doing wallinder + next years 1st (or this year, depending on the 1st in the guentzel/buch trade) + another prospect like viro. Their d pipeline is not good, so getting two prospects that are pretty good would be a huge get for them...imo obviously.

With markstrom, I have no idea what that would take. I think CGY would be fine with take back husso and maybe even reimer as well, as they could flip at least one of those for something, regardless if it is for late round picks or not. I would add holl and fabbri, maybe add veleno too to be a big deal. Yes, it would be for a lot of rentals/lower level players, but if calgary was thinking smart, they would try to do a big rebuild before their new stadium is made (don't know the timeline on that).

Yeah, we win in every trade, but the positives offset the two other teams in what they actually need.

STL/PIT
buium + berg + 1st + ghost

CGY
husso/reimer (or both) + wallinder + Viro/Holl + Fabbri + Veleno + 1st +

DET
hanifin + markstrom + buch/guentz

Again, I know how heavily skewed this is, but the essence of my arguement was that would be the lineup that would get us a minimum of second round playoffs. I would even add to the cgy one and would be open to adding kasper, rasmussen, anton johannson since his stock is higher than when we drafted him i believe (not aljo), maatta (again they have no d-corps, especially after trading hanifin, zadorov, and probably tanev too).

Doing all this will also allow us to bring up prospects as our bottom 6 will most likely be UFA like it is this year and last. So if they are better than the UFA we could potentially bring in, then they would, theoretically, get the spot over the UFA.

 

[Detroit Knights]

Nice line up but at what cost. If we have Guentzal, Hanifin and Markstrom I would imagine we gave up 2 of our top 4 or 5 prospects and picks and have yet to even make a playoff series before we paid that price. Suddenly your up coming kids on ELCs need to be impact players soon or you are entering a salary cap crunch very early and your contention window has been cut back substantially.

per our conversation we were having, this is the roster for next year. Would you say no? (kane's contract would have 35+ eligibility so we can give easy to get bonuses for him to drive up his earnings and push some millions to the next cap year, where buchnevich would be taken off the roster if he doesn't extend for reasonable number)

Signed sprong, kane, fischer. brought up danielson (who i do think makes the team next year), berggren as a spot filler or him in general (could put mazur there), edvinsson.

The numbers do work for next year from what I said so that's good news at least. I think we could even get kane at 3.5 with bonuses equal out to close to 7 mil if the cba allows it.

Why not right?

 

[saska sault]

per our conversation we were having, this is the roster for next year. Would you say no? (kane's contract would have 35+ eligibility so we can give easy to get bonuses for him to drive up his earnings and push some millions to the next cap year, where buchnevich would be taken off the roster if he doesn't extend for reasonable number)

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Signed sprong, kane, fischer. brought up danielson (who i do think makes the team next year), berggren as a spot filler or him in general (could put mazur there), edvinsson.

The numbers do work for next year from what I said so that's good news at least. I think we could even get kane at 3.5 with bonuses equal out to close to 7 mil if the cba allows it.

Why not right?

As a fan I want this team to win more than anything, so that roster is definitely an improvement in every zone. I just hope we have success for years and years that's my only concern. I think the lack of guys who have broke through yet make me nervous about moving on from the Danielsons, Kasper, Wallinders, Etc because I want them all to be sprinkled as the Copps, Fabbris, etc star to expire.

Obviously a small portion of prospects ever work out as hoped so you need to take some chances and move on from guys.

Maybe there is the right trades out there where we move on from our B prospects and future picks and can still build the cupboards a bit more, that would be ideal to me.

At the end of the day if that's our roster next year I am excited regardless and expecting a big jump.

 

[Detroit Knights]

As a fan I want this team to win more than anything, so that roster is definitely an improvement in every zone. I just hope we have success for years and years that's my only concern. I think the lack of guys who have broke through yet make me nervous about moving on from the Danielsons, Kasper, Wallinders, Etc because I want them all to be sprinkled as the Copps, Fabbris, etc star to expire.

Obviously a small portion of prospects ever work out as hoped so you need to take some chances and move on from guys.

Maybe there is the right trades out there where we move on from our B prospects and future picks and can still build the cupboards a bit more, that would be ideal to me.

At the end of the day if that's our roster next year I am excited regardless and expecting a big jump.

agreed. and I know some are not wanting to let go from wallinder, I just think that if his ceiling is hanifin, then why not just get the guy that we know can do the job vs the possibility of a prospect making it there in 4 years, if that makes sense. I posted it somewhere else, but aljo should be just as much off limits as edvinsson is unless it's for a ridiculous player coming back. Aljo is going to be the real deal imo. Aljo - Seider pairing would be insane in 3-4 years i Think.

 

[Gniwder]

per our conversation we were having, this is the roster for next year. Would you say no? (kane's contract would have 35+ eligibility so we can give easy to get bonuses for him to drive up his earnings and push some millions to the next cap year, where buchnevich would be taken off the roster if he doesn't extend for reasonable number)

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Signed sprong, kane, fischer. brought up danielson (who i do think makes the team next year), berggren as a spot filler or him in general (could put mazur there), edvinsson.

The numbers do work for next year from what I said so that's good news at least. I think we could even get kane at 3.5 with bonuses equal out to close to 7 mil if the cba allows it.

Why not right?

If you're gonna post wet dreams, think bigger. I'm gonna become Mr Taylor Swift after kicking Kelce's ass.

Why not right?

 

[Detroit Knights]

If you're gonna post wet dreams, think bigger. I'm gonna become Mr Taylor Swift after kicking Kelce's ass.

Why not right?

If that's your wet dream then we should have a separate conversation on what your wet dream standards are...

 

[WingsToPick4th]

Penguins got smoked

 

[GarlicbreadTB]

Feels like we're in a straight duel with Leafs and Devils honestly. Tampa seems like they're picking up steam.