Friedman touched on this on 32 Thoughts last week: it’s the simple fact that the NHL feels it has several promising US markets it hasn’t tapped into because unlike most of the other leagues, a not insignificant chunk of the NHL plays in Canada. Growing the game primarily means from a financial standpoint that benefits the NHL, so if it feels like a cash grab it’s probably because it is one. The market in Canada and the northern US is pretty much tapped for fans at this point. If the NHL wants to grow their audience by any meaningful amount they’ll have to expand to non traditional markets and given the success of the sunbelt teams the last number of years… can you blame Bettman and co from exploring it?
From a dollars and cents perspective anyway. 36 teams is ridiculous imo
“Players shall not be put in the position of having to demonstrate (or where they may be appearing to demonstrate) personal support for any Special Initiatives. A factor that may be considered in this regard includes, for example, whether a Player (or Players) is required to be in close proximity to any groups or individuals visibly or otherwise clearly associated with such Special Initiative(s).”
What a shitty decisionI hope the Bruins defy the NHL. They have now banned the use of Pride tape. I hope the 7 players are proud of themselves for showing that hockey certainly is not for everyone. They need to walk this back immediately.
Their new policy reads:
The NHL has banned Pride Tape, creating its own ‘Don’t Say Gay’ policy on the ice - Outsports
The NHL has banned Pride Tape and Pride jerseys, in addition to issuing a disaster memo about LGBTQ and other initiatives. Hockey is not for everyone.www.outsports.com
I hope teams defy the league.What a shitty decision
You may want to look at what is happening with the Kraken in Seattle and youth hockey - they’re doing a tremendous job. Youth hockey skyrocketed in Nashville and Dallas after teams went there. It’s happening in Vegas now. Putting a team in a new market absolutely jumps participation in youth hockey, though it’s limited due to the number of rinks. As much as we crap on the condition of many or the Orr-era rinks around Greater Boston, we’re very lucky to have so many. These other markets do not. They are forced to drive deck hockey and roller hockey but they’re trying.I don't blame him for wanting to expand the number of fans of hockey or number people playing hockey in North America overall beyond the traditional borders of hockey. That's just a smart strategy that you do to grow your sport to survive. The issue I have is that the idea a professional team will do that when there's not much in terms of investment to bolster grass roots support and make it a long term investment so that when the novelty of a pro hockey team in your city wears off, people don't feel indifferent and treat it like some sort of fad. I don't get why they don't take the money they get from these owners and invest it into the growth of grass roots youth leagues or do things to make the sport more accessible to more people. Even in the traditional stomping grounds of the sport. One thing that I see a lot of when it comes to the sport of hockey is how people that are working class Canadians and Americans complain about the cost of the sport and how hard it is to get people to play it. That needs to start changing, in my opinion, because a lot of people are now starting to get priced out of playing hockey. The NHL needs to start giving back and making it a lot more accessible and appealing to kids to play or they risk getting overtaken in their backyard by soccer and basketball and other sports.
You may want to look at what is happening with the Kraken in Seattle and youth hockey - they’re doing a tremendous job. Youth hockey skyrocketed in Nashville and Dallas after teams went there. It’s happening in Vegas now. Putting a team in a new market absolutely jumps participation in youth hockey, though it’s limited due to the number of rinks. As much as we crap on the condition of many or the Orr-era rinks around Greater Boston, we’re very lucky to have so many. These other markets do not. They are forced to drive deck hockey and roller hockey but they’re trying.
Yeah I guess I don’t know what you’re looking for. This has happened in the last two markets they’ve expanded to in a big way. Arizona is just a disastrous market at all levels. What would you have the NHL do that they haven’t been doing recently? There are single digit hockey rinks in greater Houston - what should the NHL do there?But that's my point. Growth needs to be accelerated beyond just plopping down a pro team. Sure it helps and can be the starting point, but it isn't the be all and end all. Especially if that pro team, like the case with the Coyotes or Thrashers, isn't really good. There needs to be an investment in infrastructure, lowering the financial cost to play, reaching across to many communities to get them interested in hockey, and supporting grass roots movements in an area to make sure there's a strong support base for hockey in a given region.
Which is what we're now seeing in Washington state and Nevada, as has been done in Tennessee and Texas.
I hope so too but it must have been in coordination with the players union.I hope teams defy the league.
There has been some backlash on social media so lets see if the league backtracks a bit more.I hope so too but it must have been in coordination with the players union.
But apparantly HFBoards has a similar policy.
Houston has had a very successful hockey team for 20 years there. Back when it was an expansion team with the IHL the Houston Aeros were bragged about being constantly sold out. They were moved to Iowa due to an issue with trying to play with the Houston Rockets that the then-owner vehemently opposed. The area has only exploaded over time and they have an interested, well-funded, solid owner applicant. Salt Lake also has the Utah Grizzlies from the IHL so they have a historical hockey fanbase(The origins of the famous Tommy Salo who wont them several IHL championships).Yeah I guess I don’t know what you’re looking for. This has happened in the last two markets they’ve expanded to in a big way. Arizona is just a disastrous market at all levels. What would you have the NHL do that they haven’t been doing recently? There are single digit hockey rinks in greater Houston - what should the NHL do there?
I hope the Bruins defy the NHL. They have now banned the use of Pride tape. I hope the 7 players are proud of themselves for showing that hockey certainly is not for everyone. They need to walk this back immediately.
Their new policy reads:
The NHL has banned Pride Tape, creating its own ‘Don’t Say Gay’ policy on the ice - Outsports
The NHL has banned Pride Tape and Pride jerseys, in addition to issuing a disaster memo about LGBTQ and other initiatives. Hockey is not for everyone.www.outsports.com
I am 100% with you. I am curious to see if it is brought up on broadcasts tonight and I am curious to see how it plays out online over the course of the day.I hope the league stars especially defy the NHL on it. What are they gonna do. Suspend McDavid, Bedard, Pasta, Matthews,etc?
If only Boston had a captain that wasn't afraid of speaking up . . . .I am 100% with you. I am curious to see if it is brought up on broadcasts tonight and I am curious to see how it plays out online over the course of the day.
I won't hold my breath on a policy change but maybe the league will surprise us all.
If they don't, then their silence is tacit support for it.I hope the league stars especially defy the NHL on it. What are they gonna do. Suspend McDavid, Bedard, Pasta, Matthews,etc?
Staal, Reimer, Prodorov made personal decisions and received death threats from the social media mobs. Leave the virtue signaling PR campaigns to the Twitter account managers.There has been some backlash on social media so lets see if the league backtracks a bit more.
Just let individual players and teams make the decision. What bothers me the most is that they are prohibiting the tape in practice. Games are one thing but practice is another.
f***ing what the f***?I hope the Bruins defy the NHL. They have now banned the use of Pride tape. I hope the 7 players are proud of themselves for showing that hockey certainly is not for everyone. They need to walk this back immediately.
Their new policy reads:
The NHL has banned Pride Tape, creating its own ‘Don’t Say Gay’ policy on the ice - Outsports
The NHL has banned Pride Tape and Pride jerseys, in addition to issuing a disaster memo about LGBTQ and other initiatives. Hockey is not for everyone.www.outsports.com
Staal, Reimer, Prodorov made personal decisions and received death threats from the social media mobs. Leave the virtue signaling PR campaigns to the Twitter account managers.
I agree with you. Why should those guys ruin it for the players who want to wear the tape?Why are you against letting players make their own choices? Seems like you’re ok with Staal/Provorov/Reimer making their own choices but you don’t like the consequences of those choices.
The league doesn’t have to mandate special nights but if players of their own accord want to use a specific stick tape during practice they should be allowed to.