Injury Report: 2023/2024 Injury Updates

[VirginiaMtlExpat]

Excellent point. Trainers can't prevent broken bones or infections. But there are regimens to strengthen soft tissue like tendons and ligaments. Anyone who's pulled/torn/strained something knows the necessity of stretching, icing, and resting. It allows injured tissue to heal and helps prevent future injuries.

Do the Habs' trainers prioritize prevention as much as they should? You'd hope so, but maybe they have to drill the younger guys on its importance. Prevention is passive and boring. It doesn't make you bigger or faster. Kids in their early 20s would rather be building muscle than watching the clock as they stretch. But that may be what a kid like Dach needs to add to his regimen to prevent next year's injury.

I've been saying this for a long time. They need to do this with players with a chronic injury history. I hope that Monahan is on such a regimen.

 

[NineteenSixtyFive]

Not suprised with Guhle. The guy didn’t take any muscle mass since his draft year. He needs to understand that he needs to bulk.

Yea. He really does need to bulk up those wrists.

 

[salbutera]

just a coincidence

Harris is such an incredibly useless Dman

 

[BergevinBurner]

just a coincidence

Looks like Newhook is next in line.

 

[Wats]

Harris is such an incredibly useless Dman

Why, he was high on these charts a bunch of times last season

 

[Tyson]

Legendary Habs defenseman Serge Savard suffered 2 broken legs early in his career. He recovered and went on to have a Hall of Fame career. Dach will rebound.

 

[Deebs]

Legendary Habs defenseman Serge Savard suffered 2 broken legs early in his career. He recovered and went on to have a Hall of Fame career. Dach will rebound.

Oh, without question. It sucks a year of development and chemistry is out the window for him, but he'll be back in top form next year.

 

[windycity]

Legendary Habs defenseman Serge Savard suffered 2 broken legs early in his career. He recovered and went on to have a Hall of Fame career. Dach will rebound.

Though they say he was not quite the same player after. Course that was in the 70s when they were still applying leeches and making incantations

 

[Tyson]

Though they say he was not quite the same player after. Course that was in the 70s when they were still applying leeches and making incantations

His skating after the injuries was top 5 in the league. He was one of the smoothest skaters of his era

 

[Lshap]

Two opposing beliefs: 1) Our players are unlucky; 2) Our players are injury-prone.

The problem is neither belief makes sense. Three seasons in a row of non-stop injuries is a pattern. Like continually rolling snake-eyes. At some point it stops being random chance and becomes a design flaw. How much more evidence do we need that it's more than bad luck? And if so, if we're not just 'unlucky', what are we doing wrong, or NOT doing? Are we not coaching these kids properly? Are there predictive tests we're missing? Should we add yoga to the training regimen? Something needs to change.

But on the other hand... what do Dach's broken wrist, infection, and knee ligaments have in common? How do you predict three unrelated one-offs? We acquired a player who to this day remains 100% recovered from his wrist injury, so on what basis could anyone have claimed Dach was injury-prone? Unless there's a mysterious test that determines future likelihood of freak infections and ligament tears, no one could have seen this coming. Is there any medical basis for a wrist bone being a predictor of a knee ligament?

Neither luck nor physiology answers why this keeps happening. Prevention is a no-brainer, but it would be a huge disappointment to learn the Habs didn't prioritize that from the beginning. Bottom line: After three seasons of this crap, something has to change. But the honest answer is I don't know if it's our process or our luck.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Excellent point. Trainers can't prevent broken bones or infections. But there are regimens to strengthen soft tissue like tendons and ligaments. Anyone who's pulled/torn/strained something knows the necessity of stretching, icing, and resting. It allows injured tissue to heal and helps prevent future injuries.

Do the Habs' trainers prioritize prevention as much as they should? You'd hope so, but maybe they have to drill the younger guys on its importance. Prevention is passive and boring. It doesn't make you bigger or faster. Kids in their early 20s would rather be building muscle than watching the clock as they stretch. But that may be what a kid like Dach needs to add to his regimen to prevent next year's injury.

According to the shooting coach he worked with, Dach spent a lot of time trying to train his body to prevent injuries. It's just unlucky

 

[Lshap]

Out of curiosity, do you guys also coordinate your wardrobes?

 

[Tyson]

Out of curiosity, do you guys also coordinate your wardrobes?

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Yes we shop at the same store!

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

Harris is such an incredibly useless Dman

Harris will have the opportunity to play the left side with Guhle out. I expect his play will improve tremendously as a result.

 

[windycity]

His skating after the injuries was top 5 in the league. He was one of the smoothest skaters of his era

Fair but I do remember some people saying he wasn't quite the same player after

Out of curiosity, do you guys also coordinate your wardrobes?

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It's funny bc I looked at a Deebs post quickly once and thought I don't remember writing that

 

[Tyson]

Out of curiosity, do you guys also coordinate your wardrobes?

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The picture I use is of a puppy I found injured during a hurricane. His paw was "de gloved". He was only about 6 months old. He has been at my side for 6 years now. He is arguably the coolest dog ever.

 

[Tyson]

Harris will have the opportunity to play the left side with Guhle out. I expect his play will improve tremendously as a result.

Harris is a stop gap until someone better comes along.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

Harris is a stop gap until someone better comes along.

I think it's too early to say for sure what any of the young d-men will become. I like Harris's upside. I think he could become a very solid NHL defenseman.

 

[Natey]

Harris is such an incredibly useless Dman

But Kovacevic sucks though.

 

[Andy]

Can someone call the Hawks medical team and ask them if they think Guhle will be injury prone?

 

[Whitesnake]

Harris is a stop gap until someone better comes along.

Note that Harris was always added in the list of incredible prospects drafted by our scouting group and that just by playing, it makes his pick a great one. Harris is average. Mind you, 2018 was also an average overall draft.

 

[LaP]

Guhle appears to be brittle, he just doesn't hold up. It's too bad because he has incredible upside.

It's too soon to say that. Markov missed two entire years before coming back and missing only 2 games in the next 4 years. It sucks specially since it will slow down their development but let's be patient before calling them brittle. I definitely think Gorton and KH should do a deep down evaluation of the CH medical staffs and people responsible for the players training and diet though. It's an abnormal level of injuries we had the last couple of years and i'm not a strong believer of "bad kuck".

 

[McGees]

Can someone call the Hawks medical team and ask them if they think Guhle will be injury prone?

It is why he wasn’t picked top 10. EVERYONE knew he would be so he dropped to us.

 

[BergevinBurner]

Are we expecting to hear an update on Guhle today?

 

[LaP]

Are we expecting to hear an update on Guhle today?

Out for the season