2023-2024 EPL Season

hatterson

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  • £115m - Caicedo (CM)
  • £105m - Enzo (CM)
  • £85m (including add-ons) - Mudryk (WF)
  • £75m - Fofana (CB)
  • £60m - Cucerella (LB)
  • £60m - Lavia (CM)
  • £50m (plus over £300k a week wages) - Sterling (WF)
  • £50m - Nkuku (CF)
  • £42.5m - Palmer (AM)
  • £38m - Disasi (CB)
  • £35m - Koulibaly (CB)
  • £35m - Badiashile (CB)
  • £32m - Jackson (ST)
  • £25m Gusto (RB)
  • £25m - Sanchez (GK)
  • £15m - Petrovich (GK)
  • £10m - Aubamyang (ST)
  • £100m - several youth "prospects":
    • DDF (£10m)
    • Chuckwemeka (£20m)
    • Madueke (£30m)
    • Santos (£18m)
    • Ugochuckwu (£23m)
Total - £957.5 MILLION

While there are some obvious bad deals on there, even if many of those prices are fine for the individual quality of player, I think it's safe to say I or many other posters on this board could have spent that £1 billion in a better and more coherent way.
Yea it's rough when the top 6 costing transfers have all contributed very little so far either due to sub par performances (Caicdeo, Enzo, Mudryk, Cucurella) or injuries (Fofana, Cucurella, Lavia). That's ~500M that either isn't on the pitch or is only contributing at a mid table (or lower) level, which is why Chelsea are sitting mid table.
 
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bleedblue1223

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nobody is paying that. I think some clubs might take him on loan, with a potential buy clause of most of it... but yeah, that ship sailed.
I never figured we'd get money back on Havertz. But, yeah, most likely is a loan out, collect some loan fees and bring down his remaining bill until a high enough fee comes in similar to Joao Felix.
 
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hatterson

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I never figured we'd get money back on Havertz. But, yeah, most likely is a loan out, collect some loan fees and bring down his remaining bill until a high enough fee comes in similar to Joao Felix.
Seems like the only option for most of these guys is a loan to cover (hopefully all of) wages and (hopefully) a portion of the amortization for a while until Chelsea can clear the backlog of transfer "debt"
 

Spring in Fialta

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Poch coming a bit unhinged. Where is all the talk about Liverpool?

Did Liverpool blow a billion dollars over a few windows?

Yeah, it's kind of shameless. He was the first one essentially saying 'This is Chelsea, win or shut the hell up' and now he's saying the fans don't have any patience.
 
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Blender

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It was Nicholas Jacksons' world and we were living in it before the EPL season showed up. I don't think I will forget that in a long time.
Strange to highlight that deal. Not even strange, outright nonsense. £32m for a 22 year old Jackson who has 8 goals in 23 appearances so far is absolutely fine. He's scoring at almost the same rate he was last season at Villarreal.
 

KJS14

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Strange to highlight that deal. Not even strange, outright nonsense. £32m for a 22 year old Jackson who has 8 goals in 23 appearances so far is absolutely fine. He's scoring at almost the same rate he was last season at Villarreal.
I don't think SEPH was referring to how much he cost. I think he was referring to the hype over Jackson after a few good preseason games. Might have been more on twitter than here, and wasn't necessarily out of the ordinary - equivalent to whatever troll accounts drool over their players after one good game.
 
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Savant

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Poch should be sacked, but I think the likely reality is that nobody can make a good team out of that group.
Not sure if accurate, but read sacking Poch would flunk Chelsea on the sustainability rules because of the money owed on his contract
 
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maclean

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Yea it's rough when the top 6 costing transfers have all contributed very little so far either due to sub par performances (Caicdeo, Enzo, Mudryk, Cucurella) or injuries (Fofana, Cucurella, Lavia). That's ~500M that either isn't on the pitch or is only contributing at a mid table (or lower) level, which is why Chelsea are sitting mid table.

Fwiw, I feel like the sub-par performances can at least in part be chalked up to Chelsea though. Caicedo and Enzo at least, possibly Mudryk as well, could have been integrated better at other teams, under other stewardship. Like it's a situation they created themselves, so can't exactly be used as an excuse.
 
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hatterson

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Chelsea suffers from the same thing as ManU where way too many guys flop there to not assume that it's probably far more on the club than it is on the player.
At both clubs you have a lack of managerial leadership/stability, a lack of player leadership, and a lack of senior player development.

It certainly puts players in about the worst position possible.
 

JeffreyLFC

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Chelsea just decided to spend money because they could. Even last summer, it seemed like every week they were making a new signing. If they want to have success they need more stability.
 

Chimaera

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There are people who could make them work.

However, they would need a good sporting director with them, the ability to just flog some players off who just don't work, along with tons of time.
 

hatterson

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Chelsea just decided to spend money because they could. Even last summer, it seemed like every week they were making a new signing. If they want to have success they need more stability.
Stability and a consistency to the type of players they’re targeting. Based on their transfers what is their identity supposed to be? Are they supposed to be a high octane pressing team? A fast countering team? Solid defensive and game controlling unit? Etc. random transfers fit a few of those, but you can’t really identify a true plan.

I know that well because it’s the same thing at United. It’s not that you’re buying bad players per se, but you’re overpaying for players (which puts more pressure on them), and stuffing them into a system without proper leadership and development and hoping they can just make it work as opposed to playing and developing to their strengths.

It’s one thing that Liverpool, City, and Arsenal have done well. Spurs to a but lesser extent, but they’ve been much better than United and Chelsea at it.
 

Bringer of Jollity

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Stability and a consistency to the type of players they’re targeting. Based on their transfers what is their identity supposed to be? Are they supposed to be a high octane pressing team? A fast countering team? Solid defensive and game controlling unit? Etc. random transfers fit a few of those, but you can’t really identify a true plan.

I know that well because it’s the same thing at United. It’s not that you’re buying bad players per se, but you’re overpaying for players (which puts more pressure on them), and stuffing them into a system without proper leadership and development and hoping they can just make it work as opposed to playing and developing to their strengths.

It’s one thing that Liverpool, City, and Arsenal have done well. Spurs to a but lesser extent, but they’ve been much better than United and Chelsea at it.
Echoes my thoughts and would only add that not only does the team building on its own lack consistency/vision, but also with respect to the manager/selection of managers. Poch hasn't done well, but he's also been handed a bunch of players that don't necessarily fit with what he wants to do and has been expected to somehow mold them together into some kind of cohesive unit.
 
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luiginb

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They're mostly inexperienced kids too, I think that bar for Thiago Silva they'd have the youngest team in the league.
 

Peen

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Yeah, it's kind of shameless. He was the first one essentially saying 'This is Chelsea, win or shut the hell up' and now he's saying the fans don't have any patience.
He’s been backtracking on that since october which is when it became apparent to me that this may go downwards quickly
 

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