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The thing I find confusing about this signing is that we have 23 players under contract on the NHL roster, 27 players under contract not on the NHL roster, and Dickinson on SOIR. That’s 51 contracts (limit is 50) with only Gaudet showing as exempt from the SPC limit according to Cap Friendly. Unless I’m missing something, this signing appears that it will keep us from being able to sign Stenberg and Lindstein to their ELCs until we clear more deals. I’m sure it’s possible that CF is just behind on updating their exempt designations, especially since there is no reason I can see why Gaudet would be exempt and Buchinger and Dvorsky would not. Come to that, if an 18 year old on an ELC would be automatically exempt, then I suppose Stenberg and Lindstein could sign and not impact the number of contracts under limit.
 

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Well, for that reason actually. I don't like losing the open slot.

Using one of the 50 spots on him after his showing is still using up one of the slots. Based on CapFriendly right now, there are only three contracts the Blues have that can slide and this contract puts the Blues right at the maximum. The Blues still have flexibility (unless I'm misinterpreting something) and it's not like its going to mean much. But to lose any flexibility for someone who seemed so bad is odd to me.
I can’t say I saw enough of him in scrimmage I saw streamed to have an opinion. But apparently club saw potential in him. Seems fairly low risk, but as you point out those contract slots aren’t nothing.

The thing I find confusing about this signing is that we have 23 players under contract on the NHL roster, 27 players under contract not on the NHL roster, and Dickinson on SOIR. That’s 51 contracts (limit is 50) with only Gaudet showing as exempt from the SPC limit according to Cap Friendly. Unless I’m missing something, this signing appears that it will keep us from being able to sign Stenberg and Lindstein to their ELCs until we clear more deals. I’m sure it’s possible that CF is just behind on updating their exempt designations, especially since there is no reason I can see why Gaudet would be exempt and Buchinger and Dvorsky would not. Come to that, if an 18 year old on an ELC would be automatically exempt, then I suppose Stenberg and Lindstein could sign and not impact the number of contracts under limit.
If they are under 20 and in Europe or in juniors i think contract slides and they are exempt from the limit. @Brian39 ?
 

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The thing I find confusing about this signing is that we have 23 players under contract on the NHL roster, 27 players under contract not on the NHL roster, and Dickinson on SOIR. That’s 51 contracts (limit is 50) with only Gaudet showing as exempt from the SPC limit according to Cap Friendly. Unless I’m missing something, this signing appears that it will keep us from being able to sign Stenberg and Lindstein to their ELCs until we clear more deals. I’m sure it’s possible that CF is just behind on updating their exempt designations, especially since there is no reason I can see why Gaudet would be exempt and Buchinger and Dvorsky would not. Come to that, if an 18 year old on an ELC would be automatically exempt, then I suppose Stenberg and Lindstein could sign and not impact the number of contracts under limit.
Dvorsky, MAG, Buchinger will all slide unless they play 10 NHL games. So their contracts won't effect the 50 contract limits.
 

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If they are under 20 and in Europe or in juniors i think contract slides and they are exempt from the limit. @Brian39 ?

Dvorsky, MAG, Buchinger will all slide unless they play 10 NHL games. So their contracts won't effect the 50 contract limits.
I guess I’m confused as to why Cap Friendly distinguishes between slide eligible and SPC exempt if they are essentially the same thing.
 

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I guess I’m confused as to why Cap Friendly distinguishes between slide eligible and SPC exempt if they are essentially the same thing.
ELC Slide and Exempt contracts are not exactly the same. So I was wrong in my perception of the rules. My apologies for giving the wrong information.

This is from Capfriendly FAQ page

Is there a maximum number of contracts permitted?
The maximum number of contracts per team permitted is as follows:

Up until the day of the trade deadline, the NHL roster size limit is 23 (Non-roster, IR, LTIR, SOIR, etc. do not count to this limit). On and after the trade deadline, there is no roster size limit.
Total NHL contracts per team = 50 (including two-way contracts and NHL contracts in the minors), players who meet the following three conditions do not count to this limit:
1. The player is 18 or 19 years of age.
2. Is in a junior or European league, and
3. who have not played 11 NHL games the current season.
Total NHL players belonging to a team, including reserve lists = 90 (including roster, minor, prospects or drafted)


I was wrong about number of NHL games played earlier for exempt contracts. It is 11 not 10. But any player signed to a NHL contract who 18 or 19 who is playing in Euro-Leagues or Juniors and not played 11 NHL games is exempt from the 50 contracts.

MAG, Buchinger, and Dvorsky still count as being exempt from the 50 man limit per these rules. (And are currently marked in the same manner on capfriendly)

So, for example of someone who slid and still counted against the 50 man roster, we have Klim Kostin who jumped into the AHL at 18. While his contract slid the first two years due to not playing 10 games in the NHL, he still counted against the 50 contracts because he was in the AHL and not Euro/juniors.


Sorry for giving false information earlier.
 

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Any of you see this shoot out move yet?


Yeah, a friend of mine that plays goalie posted it on his FB a few months ago saying how much he hated this stuff. I told him I would expect nothing less from a goalie but I thought the move was sick.

Too bad he actually missed as it likely would’ve gotten more press had he converted. Insane move and my surgically repaired elbow hurts just thinking of attempting the torquing that’d be needed to try something like that.
 

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Yeah, a friend of mine that plays goalie posted it on his FB a few months ago saying how much he hated this stuff. I told him I would expect nothing less from a goalie but I thought the move was sick.

Too bad he actually missed as it likely would’ve gotten more press had he converted. Insane move and my surgically repaired elbow hurts just thinking of attempting the torquing that’d be needed to try something like that.
he did miss... can see the puck landing to the right of the goal.. likely off the glass
 

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Wouldn't have counted if it had gone in, as the puck must maintain forward progress. He clearly drags the puck backwards in that attempt.
Still fun to watch though.
 

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I am impatiently waiting for training camp.

My dream is that one of our defensive prospects emerges and makes the team and makes us a much better defensive team during the season.

Has it ever happened here in St. Louis? Not that I remember. But its possible.
 

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I am impatiently waiting for training camp.

My dream is that one of our defensive prospects emerges and makes the team and makes us a much better defensive team during the season.

Has it ever happened here in St. Louis? Not that I remember. But its possible.
We don’t need a savior to emerge, we need the team to play defense like they care about preventing goals. Better coaching and increased effort should make us much better defensively.
 

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We don’t need a savior to emerge, we need the team to play defense like they care about preventing goals. Better coaching and increased effort should make us much better defensively.
It's really that simple. If this team can return to the middle of the pack defensively, it's a playoff quality team. We're still a few quality pieces away from truly competing, but it's not going to take much for the Blues to be relevant again.
 

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How many of our prospects will be playing on WJR teams this year? It has to be our personal record amount.
 

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How many of our prospects will be playing on WJR teams this year? It has to be our personal record amount.
WJC this year is being renamed IBPS:

International Blues Prospect Showcase

10 expected, I believe is what Taylor said.
The first six (or seven?) picks the Blues made this year will all likely make it for their squads. Plus last years first three picks.
 

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WJC this year is being renamed IBPS:

International Blues Prospect Showcase

10 expected, I believe is what Taylor said.
The first six (or seven?) picks the Blues made this year will all likely make it for their squads. Plus last years first three picks.
I’m already excited.
 
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How many of our prospects will be playing on WJR teams this year? It has to be our personal record amount.
USA
Snuggerud (lock)
Fischer (maybe)

Canada
Buchinger (probably)
Burns (maybe)

Sweden
Stenberg (lock)
Lindstein (very likely)

Finland
Kaskimaki (lock)

Slovakia
Dvorsky (lock)
Pekarcik (lock)

Czech Republic
Stancl (very likely)

So somewhere between 5-10
 
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